Golden Hind (ex-Pelican) by Baker - FINISHED - scale 1/45 - Galleon late 16th century

[Roger Pellett]

Congratulations on a nice job!  The overall proportions resemble the Red Bay Galleon found in Canada so you got things right.

 

Unless shown by your documentation, my personal preference would be to build the model without the high open railing around the poop deck.

 

Roget

[Srodbro]

Have enjoyed following your work, and looking forward to updates in the spring. Greatly appreciate your superb craftsmanship and techniques. 

Thank you. 

[Baker]

G.L. , Michael , Roger and Steve.

 

Thank you for following and the compliments

 

@ G.L. 

In autumn and winter I build plastic models on the kitchen table because of better lighting above this table (My sight is not so good with bad lighting).
And the admiral says : You do not have permission to make dust (from sanding wood) in the kitchen
So it's plastic model building or nothing.

 

@ Roger

The high open railing is indeed high. For the time being, this will remain.
We see what the future brings, making this rail lower is still possible.

 

Thank you all for following and likes

[Baker]

I started with the tree nails in the hull planks.

 

The idea is to follow the line of the futtocks (frames) as much as possible.

The holes of the treenails were apparently not always neatly drilled on a straight line.

 

Because this is not going to look nice on the model, I will not follow this completely.

The holes will be drilled as far as possible in a straight line.

But now and then a hole will be drilled out of the center line…

 

The first treenails

 

"Finished" treenails

 

I find this a boring job. So, we do this work occasionally between the military models production.

About 600 holes drilled.

 

To be continued (slowly)

 

[md1400cs]

Patrick,

 

Excellent work !!  your drilling idea is IMO as well a better idea. Again your research for this project is very commendable.

 

Cheers,

[Baker]

Thanks Michael, Lawrence and  everyone that likes and follows.

 

Cherry wood is indeed very suitable for modeling. I still have enough stock as firewood. This is now set aside for modeling.

So wood enough, but time, too little.

It was here over 20°c last week. very exceptional for the end of October.
Nice weather to work outside ...

 

But I was not at home. I just returned now from a week vacation (also in the sun). Having a lot of time to read and study.

 

Not all ships of that time had treenails. Some had treenails, others mixed with nails. Or only nails.

However, the nails were usually always sealed with tar or some kind of resin. 

The underside will be painted white. 

I did some tests, and the treenails are no longer visible on the model after painting. So, under the water line, no treenails (less work ) 

 

I've also looked at what the armament of the ship will be.

The heaviest caliber will be 3 and 4 ponders. 

Bore diameter 3 "and 3" 1/3” (76mm and 85 mm). weight per piece 800 and 1200 pound (400 and 600 kg).

Larger caliber looks too heavy on ships of this size.

 

Thanks for following

[Barbossa]

 

Climate change ? Lucky fur us, so we can enjoy your work a bit longer 

Treenails : you did a wonderful job but this is also the reason why I'll stick to a 1/64 scale...

[Louie da fly]

On 10/15/2017 at 12:13 AM, Backer said:

I find this a boring job. So, we do this work occasionally between the military models production.

About 600 holes drilled.

 

I don't know if "boring" in your language also means "drilling" as it does in English. Or is it just a wonderful coincidence?

 

Steven

[Baker]

Christian,

 

Thanks.

At 1/64 scale the treenails will indeed be small and almost invisible.

 

 

[Baker]

6 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

 

I don't know if "boring" in your language also means "drilling" as it does in English. Or is it just a wonderful coincidence?

 

Steven

" boring" : Has indeed complete different meanings in Dutch and English. 

 

"Boren" in Dutch : Drilling a hole in something

Example : Drill a hole in a plank or a wall, drilling a tunnel

  

"Boring" in Dutch : There is already a hole in something.

Example : The diameter of a cylinder in an internal combustion engine

 

"Boring" from English to Dutch = vervelend, saai

Like : annoying, something you have to do but do not like doing it. Help the admiral with the dishes (therefore she has a dishwasher )

 

[mtaylor]

Patrick,

 

Both Dutch definitions work for English as well.  So there's 3 definitions that are correct at least in English.  

[Baker]

Small update

 

The treenailing "adventure" continues.

I also discovered that the wales were not blackened in the time prtiod that this ship was sailing.
The whole idea of painting the wales black was partly based on a translation error from me ( my knowledge of the English language is apparently less than I thought).

I also found, somewhere on this forum, a topic that confirmed this.

 

On one side, most of the black is already removed. Treenails and bolts need to be added to the wales.

[Louie da fly]

Beautiful, precise work, Patrick. This is an excellent build.

 

Steven

[Robin Lous]

Beautiful!

 

The treenailing looks great, very subtle and refined result. Not like someone fired at it with a shotgun a few times.

 

I'm making up my mind whether or not  I'll do this on my Duyfken.

I just don't know what will look good on the walnut planking...if at all.

Lighter wood won't look good I think, maybe even darker (hard?) wood.

I really don't know. 

[G.L.]

Patrick,

 

She looks very nice!

 

G.L.

[Baker]

Thanks Steven, Robin and GL

 

Robin,

 

I first made a test board / plank.

My treenails are actually 0.2mm too large in diameter (1mm while they should be 0.8mm). At the test, 1 mm looked good. And a 1mm drill is stronger and breaks less quickly.
Therefore, 1 mm treenails are used. 

I also discovered that the treenails are almost invisible under 2 layers of white paint (below the water line).

Perhaps I also provide treenails here , or maybe not. Applying about extra 1500 almost invisible tree nails ??? pfff...

 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Backer

[Baker]

The treenails are done on the planks and wales (About 1850).

The stern is next to do.  

Perhaps the hull will also be done under the waterline. Dont know yet.

 

My method for adding treenails close to each other.

Make treenails short, medium and long.

 

Dril holes and add glue

 

treenails are fixed with a small hammer (gotten in my childhood, and about 50 year old..)

 

Add small treenails

 

Add medium treenails

 

Add the long treenails

 

cut with pliers

 

after sanding

 

 

 

And, there is a new lamp on the ceiling in the hobby room.

A much better lighting from now on. If there is time available, the shipyard is also open in the winter.

 

 

 

[Baker]

I think I'm ready with the treenails.

For the treenails in the upper wales, I looked at examples of replicas and in other building logs on MSW.

The planks between this wales are not ready yet.

[Baker]

On 24-9-2017 at 6:27 PM, Roger Pellett said:

Congratulations on a nice job!  The overall proportions resemble the Red Bay Galleon found in Canada so you got things right.

 

Unless shown by your documentation, my personal preference would be to build the model without the high open railing around the poop deck.

 

Roget

The high open railing has also been lowered.

 

Before

 

after

 

 

Index see post 1

[md1400cs]

Patrick,

 

Sweet work indeed!!

[G.L.]

Patrick,

 

 

Looks great!

If I was You I would also treenail below the waterline, just for completeness. Looks me a nice job for a Sunday afternoon in a comfortable and heated hobby room like yours with some good music at the background.

 

G.L.

[Baker]

4 hours ago, G.L. said:

Patrick,

 

 

Looks great!

If I was You I would also treenail below the waterline, just for completeness. Looks me a nice job for a Sunday afternoon in a comfortable and heated hobby room like yours with some good music at the background.

 

G.L.

I am thinking about it. But, all that work is later almost invisible. 

First must i decide how 'thick' the paint is going to be below the waterline.

first i do "trail and error" on a test plank.

 

Thanks for following and likes

Edited December 3, 2017 by Backer

[Baker]

question :

 

When I look at my pictures and books. Then I have to provide 2 holes for the anchor cables. 

On most images the holes are quite large. And the round shape around it looks robust, sturdy 

 

my solution : (4 bolts will be added later) 

The view, as it is now, is not complete what I had in mind. I think I'm going to sand it a bit thinner

Hase someone a better idea, or leave it as it is, or make thinner.

 

[Baker]

Thanks Lawrence.

 

Your G.H. also looks beautiful. 

Smaller scales are indeed difficult to add more detail.

[Baker]

The construction of the holes for the anchor cable.

As mentioned earlier, on most ships from this time I only find 2 holes (1 on each side).

For the dimensions and appearance I based myself on drawings and paintings from that time.

 

 

[Baker]

The stempost is also reconstructed.

To be honest... The first attempt was not really a success and did not survive the construction process of the hull. He was broken off and is now made new again.

 

After sanding and put into the right shape (planking of the forcastle is started).

 

Thanks for following

Edited January 2, 2018 by Backer

[Baker]

Planking the front side of the for castle.

 

Everything went according to plan. Until I discovered a mistake. 

How could I miss something as stupid as this? On one side I'm 3 mm (slightly less than 1 / 8th inch) out of center.

Fortunately, the adhesive was not completely cured. So, cutting with a Stanley knife and breaking apart was still posible.

 

Sawing the frame so that it can bend.

 

gluing and clamping

 

 

Back to planking again and treenailing.

 

Ready

 

Thanks for following

Edited January 15, 2018 by Backer

[zappto]

Impressive build on here! I like ships of this period. What wood do you use for your hull?

[Baker]

Thanks Zappto,

 

I use ramin for the hull.
This was a leftover of wood from when we built our house 25 years ago.

I do not think that this quality of ramin is still available. What is now sold as ramin is much softer wood.

 

Al the other wood is cherry.

[md1400cs]

Patrick,

 

As always a pleasure going through your updates. Superbly detailed work indeed.

 

Regards,