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Posted

I have a question.

In the manual, one of the instructions explains to 'lash the corresponding hearts with 0.008" tan rigging line'. These lashings are everywhere in the model. I have studied these photo's but I can't figure out where to start and end these lines and how they are tied together. I can't see any half knots or glued ends.

I feel a bit stupid, but can anyone explain how these are done so neatly.

Cheers, Peter

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Posted (edited)

I learned by experience/hard way that BEFORE you attach the  Bowspirit run your running rigging lines through the Fairlead and leave for further rigging later. It is a real chore if you wait....trust me. Note in your photo where the Fairlead sits, now imagine.

 

with regard to your question on Hearts I served the line and tied a seize to it for show.

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Regards,

Jim Rogers

 

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Posted

Thanks Al.

Hi Jim,

The Bowsprit assembly is already glued on so it's too late for your tip. I did dry test the fairlead holes by putting the correct size lines through to ensure they are large enough.

Can you show me a photo how you did the hearts, I can't quite picture it. I'm still curious how Chuck made the rigging of his hearts look so tidy.

BTW, I like your music choice, I have been playing that song "a salty dog" from Procol Harum into double digits now and it started me looking for more on YouTube.....lol

Cheers, Peter

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                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Hi All,

Just would like to share a bit of a brain fart I had over the weekend.

As I was doing work on the bowsprit I felt like mixing it up a bit and make a start on the main masts. Well, first step is a no brainer - taper the mast. So got the plan out, measured the bottom, 8mm (tick), the top 5mm (tick) added a bit of length for the bit in the drill chuck and tenon and cut two lengths, one for the main and one for the fore mast.

Next few hours I was creating dust sanding away, and after the sanding spent a fair bit of time carefully cutting the tenons to fit them on the ship. I also made some photo's for the forum. I was pretty chuffed with myself.

Finally, after dinner I decided to go back in the shed for a bit and read the manual to familiarize myself with the next steps. After reading step 1, went back inside for the day.

The top 5mm of the masts are the squared sizes. the masts barely need to be tapered at all...:default_wallbash:

After the dust settled (pun intended) I considered it as a very valuable afternoon of modelling, I learned a big lesson (not to get too cocky) without breaking anything or using a part of the kit that is difficult to replace.

Cheers, Peter

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Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Hmm, learning by doing .....oh well, it could had been worse, like knocking the Syren to the floor....😎

 

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Respectfully

 

Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics 
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Posted
On 9/24/2018 at 9:56 PM, Peter Bloemendaal said:

Thanks Al.

Hi Jim,

The Bowsprit assembly is already glued on so it's too late for your tip. I did dry test the fairlead holes by putting the correct size lines through to ensure they are large enough.

Can you show me a photo how you did the hearts, I can't quite picture it. I'm still curious how Chuck made the rigging of his hearts look so tidy.

BTW, I like your music choice, I have been playing that song "a salty dog" from Procol Harum into double digits now and it started me looking for more on YouTube.....lol

Cheers, Peter

Here are three photos. First two show the heart on my Syren Serving Machine. I strop the heart in whilst serving the line. The last shows the served heart on my Domonoff server with two seizings. Hope this helps, might not be an accurate way of doing hearts but I like the clean look it gives.

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Regards,

Jim Rogers

 

Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead.   Adm David Farragut.

Posted

Thanks Jim,

That explains your comment perfectly now. It also explain why I didn't get it. My question was more related to the 0.008" tan line that lashed the two hearts together. I couldn't figure out where/how chuck had hidden the start and end of that line.

I did the two bobstays last night and I think I figured it out. Or at least I have a result that I am reasonably happy with.

Cheers, Peter

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                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

I usually seize the .008 to the top heart then run it through the bottom heart at least 4 times. I then take a toothpick and a small dab of CA to hold in place. Once it is set I seize the bitter end to the line running between the hearts.

Regards,

Jim Rogers

 

Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead.   Adm David Farragut.

Posted

Thanks for the previous likes everyone.

I have finished the bowsprit assembly including the rigging so I would like to share that milestone with just a few photo's.

Next I will make a start on the masts.

Cheers, Peter

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Thanks for the 'likes' again everyone.

Made a start on the lower masts. They make a great change on the overall look of the ship. Still have to add a few bits and pieces to complete them but I thought it is worth sharing a few photo's.

I thinks I am in luck with how they fit in the holes on the deck. I made the tenons a bit longer and gave them a snug fit. Then I rotated the masts to a position where the tilt angle was just about right. I marked the positions and started building up the mast assemblies.

So when Gluing time comes in the distant future it doesn't look like I will need a big setup for the positioning of the masts (fingers crossed). Here a some photo's.

Cheers, Peter.

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Thanks Jim,

I certainly am enjoying this build.

Cheers, Peter.

Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

A little bit more progress.

The two masts are painted and I made some inroads with the mast tops. I let the photo's do the talking.

Cheers, Peter

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Thanks for all the likes everyone.

Time for another update. I have been progressing nicely without any dramas (touch wood...lol).

I have been building up the masts up to the point where I have to add all the blocks. Next will be gluing them into the hull. That will be a milestone and definitely a task I will take my time with. I plan not to use a jig but I will likely cover a fair distance running around the model to make sure they line up while the glue sets.

I also made a start on the chain plate assemblies (so I can multitask after all, didn't think I had it in me....lol). I haven't put them on the channels yet.

There are a few photo's to get through so better get on with it....

Cheers, Peter

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Great progress, Peter! She is a real beauty!

 

Thomas

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Posted

Thanks Thomas,

 

Hi Messis,

I made the chain plates with the 28 gauge wire supplied in the kit. I blackened sections of it first and made a jig (just different sized nails at the correct distances). It's all very well explained in the instructions. The second last photo is trying to show the jig and some of the nail locations.

Peter

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                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Thank you Peter.... outstanting work. Such details explained in the instr. means you got a great kit there. I didnt knew Shipway kits are so well made! Never had one since now, but looking at your work it does help Model Shipways to sell me a kit or two 😍

 

How did you blackened? Was it Birchwood Casey Brass Black? Did it cured enought so you could bend the wire without damaging the blackened surface?

Posted

Hi Messis,

The quality of the instructions was one of the reasons I chose the Syren (amongst others of course...). I do recommend model shipways kits (not sure if I qualify with a sample size of 1...lol).

I also don't seem to have a lot of trouble with the wood quality as some others mention in their logs a bit. Not sure why, but most of my spares still sit in the laser cut sheets.

As for the blackening, I used the instructions on this website: http://www.modelboatyard.com/blackening.html and bought the following solution from an aussie website:

http://www.watsonbrass.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=223&zenid=b7caed66653398c47a36f74d11d3797b

I haven't had trouble bending the wire at all (and sometimes I bend them a lot!!). They can get a bit shiny but I don't mind it as long it keeps it's metal look.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Peter

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Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Peter that was very nice of you giving such a detailed answer! Thank you very much you have been very helpfull.

 

You said "most of my spares still sit in the laser cut sheets." Does this mean you bought all wooden laser cut sheets twiece? Or the kit has in it spare parts?

Christos

Posted

Hi Christos, 

The kit comes with some extras in the laser cut sheets. Especially with delicate or high volume small parts.

Peter.

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Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Posted

Thanks for all the likes again everyone.

Well the jeer blocks, slings and lower lift blocks are attached to the masts, the masts are glued into the hull and the chain plates are attached to the hull as well.

Just a few photo's of the very simple setup I used to line up the masts and of the components mentioned above.

I did notice on the close-up photo's that my netting has turned out very sloppy. Not too happy with that in hindsight but I am not keen pulling that apart and starting again. I'll learn from it for the next one (hopefully...).

Looks like rigging is next...

Cheers, Peter

 

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

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                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Thanks for the likes again everyone.

The chain plates have been attached to the hull and the rigging is underway. I don't have a lot of problems, disasters or major successes to report. I just seem to plod along and follow the instructions to the letter. Sometimes I feel it makes for a bit of a boring log. Even the processes are mainly fingers, scalpel, scissors, glue and paint so no extra hand to make photo's while doing it....lol (and the Labradors aren't much of a help).

I always admire the modellers that go off track and do their own thing, create new build processes or even scratch build, but that's not me I'm afraid....(yet).

Enough dribble, here are some photo's to show my progress.

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                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Thanks Sven & Dutchman and thanks for all the likes.

I have been a bit quiet for a little while. I noticed I dropped a bit in motivation so took a few weeks break from modelling. Luckily it didn't last long...

I think I'm about halfway through the standing rigging so I thought it be a good time for a small update.

I also would like to wish everyone a  Happy and prosperous New Year  :champagne:

 

(I got the happy bit sorted already because my first grandson was born yesterday 👍.)

Cheers, Peter

 

 

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Current Build:     USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64

 

Completed:         US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64

                        San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50

Future build:        HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64

                        LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50

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