Dr PR Posted December 10, 2019 Share #31 Posted December 10, 2019 Before planking the deck you might think about sealing the inside of the hull with liquid epoxy or resin. I had problems with some of the first planked hulls I built with cracks appearing between the planks after a few years of heat and humidity cycles. The edges of some of the planks rose above the neighboring planks. Looks pretty nasty! Then I used a thin two part epoxy paint that aircraft modelers use to seal balsa motor mounts. It is applied like a paint with a brush, and it soaks into the wood of the planking and bulkheads. After it sets the hull is very solid. After three decades there are no hints of cracks. Quote Phil Current build: USS Cape MSI-2 Current build: Albatros topsail schooner Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share #32 Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Landlubber Mike said: Looks great! The bulwarks are not easy when you have to individually set up all the stanchions. If one looks closely there are some irregularities. It was, as you point out, difficult to get them all alighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share #33 Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Dr PR said: Before planking the deck you might think about sealing the inside of the hull with liquid epoxy or resin. I had problems with some of the first planked hulls I built with cracks appearing between the planks after a few years of heat and humidity cycles. The edges of some of the planks rose above the neighboring planks. Looks pretty nasty! Then I used a thin two part epoxy paint that aircraft modelers use to seal balsa motor mounts. It is applied like a paint with a brush, and it soaks into the wood of the planking and bulkheads. After it sets the hull is very solid. After three decades there are no hints of cracks. I will consider that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share #34 Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/9/2019 at 9:30 PM, Landlubber Mike said: Looks great! The bulwarks are not easy when you have to individually set up all the stanchions. Thanks. A close look shows they are far from perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share #35 Posted December 11, 2019 Seems I replied to this comment twice.oh well!🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share #36 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) A lesson on reading ahead and studying the plans. I was about to start the planking when I read the second paragraph in the instruction’s section on planking. It said there is part call a “thick pad” around the main mast and should be put in before planking, so as to plank around it. This is not shown in the simplified deck plan on sheet (#tbd). On the other hand this plan sheet recommends adding some scrap wood around the hatch positions to help support the hatch coamings and deck planks, which is also in the instructions but I overlooked it at first. So be careful. Plans and instructions complement each other. Additionally, there is no laser cut “thick pad” in my kit. It is not mentioned on the list of laser cut parts and I couldn’t find such a piece. So I scratch built it. The mast in the photo is just there to keep everything aligned. Edited December 12, 2019 by ragove clarification maddog33, GrandpaPhil, Landlubber Mike and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted December 11, 2019 i occasionally get visitors of the 4 legged variety outside my shipyard window. Occasionally a fox. More commonly deer. Duanelaker, JpR62, modeller_masa and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share #38 Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) I put some planking down as reference and then begin assembling coamings for the various hatches etc. In the photo I am test fitting the coaming around the main hatch opening. I still need to trim back the decking at tiny bit. I am finding it very difficult to work with wood to tolerances of 1/64” or less. 😬 My eyes certainly aren’t what they used to be. The photo also demonstrates the versatility of the Hobby Zone building slip Edited December 20, 2019 by ragove gieb8688, Tigersteve, Tom E and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted December 26, 2019 Share #39 Posted December 26, 2019 Looking great! You've already passed me on my build. How are you finding the deck planking going? I am at about that stage on my build. Was thinking about putting a sub floor piece in to make the planking a little more even and possibly with better support. Either way, it looks like one needs to consider building in some underlying framing to support the hatches, etc. Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuglo Posted December 26, 2019 Share #40 Posted December 26, 2019 Good work. This was a fun build for me -different from the usual ships of war. I had the privilege of visiting her during the build which made for even greater satisfaction. Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share #41 Posted January 9, 2020 I’ve been planking the deck. That is slow work. Scoot, Retired guy, gieb8688 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share #42 Posted January 14, 2020 Deck is finished and oiled. I think I will sand it lightly and do a second coat. Also got the first coat of black on the hull. gieb8688, Scoot, JpR62 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share #43 Posted January 15, 2020 On 12/26/2019 at 2:47 PM, Landlubber Mike said: in some underlying framing to support the hatches, Definitely need to do that. The finished deck was a bit uneven but sanding corrected that. Landlubber Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share #44 Posted January 17, 2020 The wife and I are heading off to Florida for a bit of sun and shrimp. I've packed up the hull, the copper strips, some sharp knives and the plans and hope to have her coppered by the time we return. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMarine Posted January 18, 2020 Share #45 Posted January 18, 2020 Welcome to my world. You just missed the super wx, but it's still better than VA. now. Here we only build when it's to hot to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share #46 Posted January 18, 2020 We’ve been spending winters (Januaryish to aprilish) in Florida for the past 14 years or so. In a travel trailer until this year. Since were both in our mid seventies we now prefer hotels and nice cabins. Florida is wonderful until May. Then it is just to darn hot! We could never live here year round. I will say that Florida has just about the best state parks we’ve seen and we’ve stayed in more than 1/2 of the states in the US. Our favorite is Grayton Beach State Park. This year we will stay in one of their cottages. We love the white sandy beaches all along the panhandle. Retired guy and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMarine Posted January 19, 2020 Share #47 Posted January 19, 2020 A case could be made for bad wx. Maybe stay in and finish the C.W. Morgan. John Allen, maddog33, Papa and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share #48 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) It’s a rainy day in Bahia Honda State Park. Perfect time to start coppering the hull. The pelican was out on Dry Tortugas. Edited February 1, 2020 by ragove Tom E, Retired guy, gieb8688 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share #49 Posted February 4, 2020 178 copper plates installed. 100000000000 to go. My workbench is the kitchen table. Landlubber Mike, Duanelaker, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted February 11, 2020 Share #50 Posted February 11, 2020 Nice work! And I love Tony's - good choice in spices Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share #51 Posted February 12, 2020 I am partial to “Slap ya Mama” but Tony’s all we could find in the keys😀. I have finished the lower band. Should have pictures in a couple days. We are traveling from St Pete Beach to Fanning Springs State Park today. Landlubber Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share #52 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Port side lower band of copper has been laid. I have started the starboard side. Edited February 14, 2020 by ragove Bigger photo Tom E, gieb8688, JayCub and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired guy Posted February 14, 2020 Share #53 Posted February 14, 2020 The coppering looks very nice great job 👍 Regards Richard Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share #54 Posted February 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Retired guy said: The coppering looks very nice great job 👍 Regards Richard Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted February 17, 2020 Share #55 Posted February 17, 2020 Looks good I’ll be following your build. We seem to be at the same stage. My build is a solid hull which I think simplified the hull build. Your copper plating looks great. Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share #56 Posted February 18, 2020 I am making progress. I estimate that I have put about 20 to 30 hours into the coppering over 10 days. And a recommendation for peace and quiet in a natural setting. You can’t do much better than Fanning Springs State Park, 10 miles north of Chiefland, Florida. Their cabins are fantastic; two bedrooms, full kitchen, big lounging area, a gas fireplace and a screened porch on 2 sides. Tom E, JayCub, Landlubber Mike and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share #57 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) It is quite tricky to get a nice flow in the compound curves at the stern. I tried to let the copper tiles tell me where they wanted to flow naturally. The real challenge will be to duplicate the pattern on the port side. Good thing one will only be able to one side at a time. If it doesn’t match exactly I doubt anyone would notice. Also, the instructions state that the actual pattern for the copper is unknown. So...who’s to say I am wrong? it is actually much smoother in reality than the weird reflections would imply. Edited February 23, 2020 by ragove Clarify gieb8688, marktiedens, Duanelaker and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 23, 2020 Share #58 Posted February 23, 2020 Nice job on the build. Coppering looks good. Here is a pic of a section of coppered planking from Mystic Seaport. Not sure if it is from a real vessel or made as a display. Scoot Landlubber Mike and gieb8688 2 Quote Charles W. Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share #59 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Scoot said: Nice job on the build. Coppering looks good. Here is a pic of a section of coppered planking from Mystic Seaport. Not sure if it is from a real vessel or made as a display. Scoot Thanks for the comment and the photo. I visited the Morgan at Mystic many years ago but I don’t know where any of my photos are. 😞 Where is Barre MA? I spent the first 23 years of my life in Saugus, MA, a Boston suburb. I thought about trying to add rivet/nail detail but decided anything I did would be grossly out of scale. Edited February 23, 2020 by ragove Bob Cleek, gieb8688 and Landlubber Mike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted February 24, 2020 Share #60 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) A small tracing wheel works nicely to make nail mark representations. I must say you are doing an excellent job with the tiles. My vintage kit did not come with tiles, I used copper tape in strips. Yes, the stern is difficult, this is when you find out if you got the shape right. Nice job. 👍 Edited February 24, 2020 by John Ruy Landlubber Mike, GrandpaPhil, Retired guy and 1 other 4 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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