SIDEWAYS SAM Posted September 22, 2021 Share #691 Posted September 22, 2021 Hi Phil, and please excuse the invasion of your postings. Perhaps a solution would be to provide netting and stuff with hammocks to hide any botched fixings to the ship's rail. See sketch below. Two eyebolts tuned in at the bottom with a gap between the ends for a fixing nail and brass wire soldered both sides. (Eyes should be thro' 90 degrees) Should give a sturdy fixing. Sam. zappto, Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share #692 Posted September 22, 2021 I thought about that. I have netting and have looked into making the hammocks. I think that would make the Victory look awesome! Old Collingwood, clearway, SIDEWAYS SAM and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted September 22, 2021 Share #693 Posted September 22, 2021 She is evolving nicely and yep the hammock netting is a nightmare (was bad enough in 1/75 scale)! i would leave the davits off till as late as possible because they will deffo get snagged endlessly while rigging the mizzen mast. Keith GrandpaPhil, Old Collingwood and SIDEWAYS SAM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share #694 Posted September 22, 2021 Thank you all very much for the likes and the comments! Working on poop deck hammock cranes: Edwardkenway, EricWilliamMarshall, Kevin-the-lubber and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share #695 Posted September 26, 2021 Thank you all very much for the likes and just for stopping by! Still working hammock cranes: The poop deck hammock cranes are now complete: I kept knocking buckets off while installing the hammock cranes on the railing overlooking the quarterdeck. I had to repair a bunch of them. I’ve been dreading getting to the netting, but it’s time to bite that bullet. Like my saying says, “The hardest part is deciding to try.” So, I’m just going to make it. I am using beige fishnet material for my netting, following pictures I’ve seen of the Victory. We’ll see how this goes. Matt D, clearway, Richard44 and 9 others 12 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share #696 Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) The fishnet failed. The mesh is the right size, but the fibers are way too thick. It doesn’t look right, so I removed it. Rereading Von Monfeld, he suggested the use of open weave tulle. Fortunately, I found a roll of white tulle in a giant box of craft stuff we found at a yard sale. I cut a yard off the end of it and stuck it in a strong cup of tea to stain it over night. Edited September 26, 2021 by GrandpaPhil John Ruy, Richard44, SIDEWAYS SAM and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellapeaka Posted September 27, 2021 Share #697 Posted September 27, 2021 Wow, the ship is looking phenomenal! Great work! Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Jack of all trades, master of none. Current Build: The Harvey Completed builds: HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share #698 Posted September 27, 2021 Thank you very much! I went to the craft store and hardware store today and bought myself paint, sealant, beige tulle and more wire. Time to make some hammock netting! Edwardkenway, Richard44, Spellapeaka and 6 others 9 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share #699 Posted October 2, 2021 I have everything I need to start on my next build, the French Ironclad Magenta, and also the French Ironclad Solferino. However, I want to finish Victory before I begin construction on Magenta. To that effect, I have my first piece of test netting ready to install. SIDEWAYS SAM, clearway, Glen McGuire and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share #700 Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Thank you all very much for the likes and just for stopping by! I’ve been rigging the hammock cranes. I’m running the lower two lines first, along the inside of the hammock cranes, and then I’ll put the netting over it, on the inside. I’ll be securing the top line to the netting and securing the netting to the ends of the hammock cranes. It’s really slow going. I keep breaking the hammock cranes from the top of the bulwarks. It’s drying again. I’m going to make hammocks when I get all of the hammock cranes in place and rigged. The last time I tried doing hammock cranes was on a Revell 1/96 Constitution, 25 years ago. It didn’t end well back then. This is probably what made me dread these so badly. Edited October 3, 2021 by GrandpaPhil John Ruy, Henke, EricWilliamMarshall and 6 others 9 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javlin Posted October 4, 2021 Share #701 Posted October 4, 2021 Phil would the loop be better in the front than the back of the poles?it might look like a knot as much just an obs.Kevin Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share #702 Posted October 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Javlin said: Phil would the loop be better in the front than the back of the poles?it might look like a knot as much just an obs.Kevin Excellent point. I’m not sure. I will try it on another set and we will see. The first side is ready for netting, unfortunately it isn’t the side, I cut it for, lol. Otherwise, making progress slowly but surely. clearway, KurtH, Spellapeaka and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share #703 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I’m getting frustrated with this build again. I am going to step away for a bit and work on my Magenta for a while. But, I’ll be back shortly. I’ve spent too much time and money to ever abandon Victory. I just need a break. Edited October 17, 2021 by GrandpaPhil Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, SIDEWAYS SAM and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted October 17, 2021 Share #704 Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GrandpaPhil said: I just need a break That’s why I keep a stash of smaller projects. Sometimes you just need to step away. 👍 I can’t just sit it out, gotta work on another short term build. 😎 You are doing a great job on Victory, she will always be waiting for you. Do you have a build log on Magenta? SIDEWAYS SAM, Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share #705 Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Thank you very much! Yes, Magenta is over in the 1851-1900 section of the scratch builds. She’s still in the planning stage. The accessory build which I’m using for research is the Solferino in the 1851-1900 section of the kit builds. Edited October 18, 2021 by GrandpaPhil Edwardkenway, John Ruy, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 18, 2021 Share #706 Posted October 18, 2021 I think it attacks us all Phil - and having another build is good to refresh the mind - and stops that kit-bin moment. OC. Edwardkenway, SIDEWAYS SAM and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share #707 Posted December 5, 2021 Life is very busy right now with the holidays and everything, but I think I’m going to give the hammock crane netting another shot in the near future. SIDEWAYS SAM, Henke, zappto and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share #708 Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) I got a soldering station today. The hammock cranes (which severely aggravated me and directly led to the break that started the Magenta build) will be ripped off and have posts soldered to the bottom so they can be pinned in place to avoid the continual breakage that had been happening. Edited April 30, 2022 by GrandpaPhil SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway, clearway and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share #709 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) My Solferino is entering the final stages of the build and I’m going to be resuming work on Victory when she is done. Victory is nearly complete and I really need to finish her. I just bought David Antscherl’s Sail Making Supplement, which is also needed for the Victory, the Solferino and the Mercury to make all 3 models look right with sails. Edited September 19, 2022 by GrandpaPhil SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway, John Ruy and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share #710 Posted September 19, 2022 Victory’s current status: Baker, John Ruy, Bill Morrison and 14 others 14 3 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share #711 Posted November 15, 2022 Shipyard Models has a complete rigging fitting set for the Victory in 1/96 scale. I saved it in my Ages Of Sail Cart and am going to try and get Admiral-Claus to get it for me for Christmas this year. Glen McGuire, John Ruy, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share #712 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Admiral Claus bought me the Victory Rigging Fitting Set. I also bought everything for a complete set of silk span sails. Needless to say, once I clear Solferino off my shipyard desk, I am making a finishing run on Victory. Quick side note: me and hammock cranes have never gotten along, but winter is coming along and I’m going to need something to do, and Victory is getting finished. Edited November 27, 2022 by GrandpaPhil Edwardkenway and SIDEWAYS SAM 2 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted November 27, 2022 Share #713 Posted November 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, GrandpaPhil said: I also bought everything for a complete set of silk span sails. Where do you get your silk span, Phil? GrandpaPhil and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share #714 Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) I bought 150 sheets of cream colored gift wrapping tissue paper off Amazon, for $12. I know it works the same because I have covered balsa models with it before. However, let me see how it works for making my set of sails for Solferino. Edited November 27, 2022 by GrandpaPhil Edwardkenway, SIDEWAYS SAM, John Ruy and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted November 27, 2022 Share #715 Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, GrandpaPhil said: However, let me see how it works for making my set of sails for Solferino. OK. I'll stay tuned. Thanks! Keith Black and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted November 27, 2022 Share #716 Posted November 27, 2022 Glen, have you considered rice paper? I'm considering using it for the sails for Amelia. https://www.hobbylobby.com/Art-Supplies/Drawing-Illustration/Calligraphy/Rice-Paper-Roll/p/10121?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIicb-8dPO-wIVGv_jBx07VQFKEAQYAyABEgLXb_D_BwE FriedClams and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted November 27, 2022 Share #717 Posted November 27, 2022 Fab progress Phill it will look super when finished 🙂 Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and FriedClams 2 1 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted November 27, 2022 Share #718 Posted November 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Keith Black said: Glen, have you considered rice paper? I'm considering using it for the sails for Amelia. Never heard of rice paper before. I will look into that. Thanks, Keith. FriedClams, Keith Black and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javlin Posted November 28, 2022 Share #719 Posted November 28, 2022 it's been a while since I have poked my head in this one Phil and it is Wowza!! Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and FriedClams 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share #720 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Thank you very much! Good news! Solferino is going into her final stages of construction! The Victory will be back on my workbench in the very near future! Edited December 12, 2022 by GrandpaPhil Javlin, Knocklouder, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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