Mldixon Posted January 4, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 4, 2020 Well I finally started the build, my build board is more of a build station. I have drawers below the build which are interchanged as I move from one stage of the build to the next, I have shown some pictures of how I utilize the space, hard to be original with designs, much borrowing of many different ideas incorporated here. This is my first build, but have been modeling and lurking about the forums for years.... This is the build station with the progress to dateT Large drawer storage top tray slides left to right to increase storage capacity Carving tools Cutting and drilling items Keel alignment Progress to date, I have not installed the bulkhead former's yet as I am waiting on some material to finish. I used Chucks instruction on bolts #77 and 15# Fishing Line The Stem, I have used Watco wipe on Poly Satin to protect against dirt and grime Mark P, rafine, CiscoH and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted January 4, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) There is something wrong here.. Your tools and work area are much too neat and clean..😄 Seriously, that is a very nice start. I look forward to watching your progress... I particularly like your work board with the drawers underneath.. I am going to shamelessly steal that idea.. Edited January 4, 2020 by Gregory VTHokiEE, Mark P and FrankWouts 3 Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted January 4, 2020 😉 thanks, I of course shamelessly borrowed much of it myself... FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle17 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #4 Posted January 4, 2020 My long departed German friend taught me to be neat and orderly and clean up before one leaves the shop. I have high admiration for him and his works. He apprenticed in Germany to a wood carver and that rigor was among his first lessons. Nice discipline! Joe FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted January 4, 2020 I have a hard time keeping up with tools when I'm working, so neatness is almost a necessity for me, I often spend as much time looking for things as I do building. FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 4, 2020 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2020 Is that a Saturn V rocket in the corner of your first photo? I built the 1:100 Estes kit last summer. FrankWouts 1 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted January 5, 2020 Nope, that's a scratch titan missile, built it for a grandsons school project, had a Gemini capsule on top. PVC pipe wrapped with a printout, and then a scaled capsule to fit PVC pipes scale.... FrankWouts, paulsutcliffe and Matt D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted January 6, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 6, 2020 It looks good so far.....but you really should sand the laser char from the edges of the stem assembly. Also dont forget to taper it in thickness as stated in the instructions. That would have been so much easier before gluing it to the BF. Chuck FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted January 6, 2020 It is tapered, which is why I purchased that figurehead, tapered it for a fit , didn't include photos of that. Char sanding was overlooked, but I will correct that. Appreciate the feedback, got materials in today's post, so will be moving forward soon... FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted January 7, 2020 Fixed the char problem, with a little judicious sanding. Tested the figurehead for proper taper fit. char gone now He fits pretty good other side The camera is pretty unforgiving, I think it looks good then I close in on the photos, and put on my magnifier. But then I remember people who view it wont have that agility. Gregory, Matt D, JpR62 and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Been awhile since I posted progress, but it's moving along slow and steady The bulkheads were plotted and cut out on my CNC Router which I built over a number of years, Plot established the lines, the cuts were roughed out with a first pass and then the second pass was a light finishing cut to eliminate flex of the tool and gantry This is how I kept the bulkheads square and the Keel in alignment, the first two bulkheads were glued into place and spacers were added to keep them in alignment and then i used these two bulkheads as reference points for the run to the bow and the stern A square was clamped to the keel as i moved off to prevent twist and the bulkheads were kept equidistant with the help of the gantry which moved along as I glued each bulkhead and allowed them to dry before moving to the next one... This kept the keel in the same position as I added each bulkhead Moving to the Bow i used a black thread with two clamps to check the alignment after all the bulkheads were in place. I use Titebond Glue exclusively, I have avoided Cy as it seems to have a affect on me as of late... I am now starting the Fairing of the Hull, or as I like to think of it , as the unfairing of the Hull, because the whole process of sanding for days on ends seem so unfair.... More to follow. Edited January 24, 2020 by Mldixon removed two photos JpR62, Ryland Craze, FrankWouts and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted January 24, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 24, 2020 That looks super fantastic....well done. FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted January 24, 2020 Thank you...looking forward to planking.. FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) These group builds are just the ticket, I make it a point to peruse all the posts so that I can learn and benefit from others problems and their solutions... I am always motivated to keep moving forward when I see Chucks posts, even though I know my ship will never look like his, unless I Photoshop It I next set up the model to fair the bulkheads Binder clips worked just fine to keep the bulkheads stiff for sanding I added this block so I had a clamping surface to hold the hull while I inverted it for fairing Hull set up for sanding I used a 360 vice so that I could get good access and save my shoulders and wrists This is as Fein detail sander I used 60 grit for bow and stern , and then switched to 180 for the rest, finished off with 220 grit I also followed Stuntflyers advice and bought the Foam Sanders, man was that ever a good move, made for easy sailing. Lots of odd positions to get the job done. I cut a pair of bars that were the exact size of the ports and framed away Lots of clamping and adding strips to check for symmetry along the way I used the gantry to make sure the stern framing was aligned and it also aided as a holding device The window templates were a big bonus in getting the alignment just right Final check just to make sure it was in the ballpark Sanded the Bow on the insides in preparation for the Posts Not happy with these, so I am going to make sets 2 and 3, then choose Poor shot, but it was just set up for the picture, will continue working on this area, I am most likely going to cut some planking to the correct size and do some mocking up to get this just right.... to be continued Edited February 19, 2020 by Mldixon remove pics Ryland Craze, Edwardkenway, CiscoH and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted February 19, 2020 I make it a habit to build most of my models in 3d so I can see the sequence before I start building. I went ahead and lofted the lines of the bulkheads to scale and then intersected then with the model, this resulted in getting a template of the sanding profiles so you could sand just short of the lines and save a lot of time....which I didn't do... Anyway I might just start a second hull and use this method to see if it makes a huge difference. This is what the template looks like for bulkhead 27 Rustyj, Ryland Craze, CaptMorgan and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann Posted February 20, 2020 Share #16 Posted February 20, 2020 Wow, that is certainly a big help! You are an expert! FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Beckmann said: Wow, that is certainly a big help! You are an expert! Thanks, I only wish I would've started with this , sanding symmetrical sides can be very challenging. Trust me I'm no expert😉 FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted February 21, 2020 I decided to use this set of Bollards, second attempt needs a little refinement on the Bowsprit slot Gregory, GrandpaPhil, JeffT and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 21, 2020 Share #19 Posted February 21, 2020 Looks very good. I would fair a bit more on those bow fillers judging from how that batten run off them. You need just a wee bit more so you dont have a bump in your planking along the aft edge of those fillers. Chuck FrankWouts and paulsutcliffe 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted February 21, 2020 I agree, so more sanding. Thanks for the heads up FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 27, 2020 Share #21 Posted June 27, 2020 So how are doing with the Winnie? Any more progress? FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted July 6, 2020 I've been moving along..but I am not very happy with the Hull planking. I am at a crossroads. I'm thinking about starting all over again from the beginning, I realize that we are out own worst critics, and in reality I will most likely be the only person who will see this after it is finished. So maybe it won't matter, but I have a lot invested in this and I am reluctant to move ahead with all those expensive parts on the stern. So maybe better to begin again.... Bottom of Hull as of today ccoyle, FrankWouts, Matt D and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacom Posted July 6, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 6, 2020 The planking looks good to me👍, ask yourself, will it be any better if you do it again from the start? If the answer is yes then do it, if the answer is not sure then carry on. I think Longridge wrote along the lines of do the best you can and move on, otherwise you run the danger of never doing anything. You are very right, we are our own worst critics.🥴 Chuck, FrankWouts and Rustyj 3 Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted July 7, 2020 Thanks, I guess I'll press on with the planking and see how I feel about it when completed...at the very least I'll get some more experience... Wacom and FrankWouts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted July 7, 2020 Share #25 Posted July 7, 2020 It looks pretty good to me also. Dont be afraid to sand the hell out of the planking to get it level and smooth. There is plenty of meat on those strips to do so. Its looking great so far. I would recommend that you adjust the black tape for your molding though. Try and get a consistent space between the tape. Especially at the bow as it looks a bit wavy as shown in the photos. FrankWouts and Matt D 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted July 7, 2020 Share #26 Posted July 7, 2020 I agree with Chuck, I think a good block sanding will make it look great. Planks look good as it is already. A nice sand will definitely do the trick. JJ FrankWouts 1 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #27 Posted July 9, 2020 A bit wavy is a understatement, that is part of what is bothering me. Also I am having a lot of trouble at the stern with those turns and bends. But I am becoming quite proficient at removing planks, cleaning the area and replacing them.🤕 FrankWouts, Mark P and Matt D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 10, 2020 Share #28 Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Mldixon said:I am becoming quite proficient at removing planks, cleaning the area and replacing them.🤕 I know the feeling! FrankWouts 1 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mldixon Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share #29 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) The good news is I'm still alive... sol I finished the planking of the hull, I guess it's gonna have to do, as I will probably die of old age before I get it the way I truly want it. This was a progress photo planking the last side A finished shot, rubbed on a coat of poly to try and keep it clean and this shot shows why Chuck suggested I sand a little more, Obviously it was not enough, The transitions for a smooth Hull are quite a challenge and I'm guessing doom a lot of models to the burn barrel, I truly struggled with this end of the hull, after numerous attempts I just threw in the towel, I did however recognize that the model looked pretty good when sitting in the cradles....I also noticed that a lot of these areas are going to disappear behind details as they are added. So I'll quit trying to reason why this is OK and just admit that it is a mediocre attempt. To conclude...As they say in the Opera, its not over till the fat lady sings, and she is just starting to hum... till next time. Edited July 26, 2021 by Mldixon spelling scrubbyj427, BenD, Gregory and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Diaz O Posted July 26, 2021 Share #30 Posted July 26, 2021 Hi, it looks pretty good, it's a breakthrough. When it doesn't work, just keep trying. My HMS Winchelsea model will have a copper-lined bottom. FrankWouts 1 -HMS Tritón 1/48 1773 en scracht (TERMINADO) -HMS Winchelsea 1/35 1764 full scracht (EN PROYECTO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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