ASAT Posted April 10, 2020 #1 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Well this is the one that started the bug.... I was gonna wait to start this but I’m waiting for stuff on all my other builds... I am going to build this with the aid of the Airfix magazine builds by James Hatch and Brett Green, leaning more to the Hatch version specifically..... so here is the start of the cockpit- it looks more weathered in person, I’m finding that weathering silver/aluminum is more difficult than greens and black.....looks like I need to sand and fill some pin marks on the seat, I thought they would be covered by a seat cushion but not on this version? There is definitely a lot more flash/cleanup to do on this kit vs the 1/48 Airfix kits I’m doing. Any input or suggestions are definitely welcome! Edited April 25, 2020 by ASAT Compliance Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Canute Posted April 10, 2020 #2 Posted April 10, 2020 Work carefully cleaning up the flash, some of it may be attachment points for other parts. I use an #11 blade and a number of various grades of sanding sticks for cleanup. I use Vallejo putty to fill gaps, as do a number of the other modelers on this site. lmagna, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
ASAT Posted April 10, 2020 Author #3 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Canute said: Work carefully cleaning up the flash, some of it may be attachment points for other parts. I found that out the hard way, lucky it still fit ok... that is one area where the airfix instructions are lacking, it doesn’t always show clearly where everything attaches. I thought I cleaned up the parts on the areas that will show, but the camera is pretty brutal at showing flaws.... need a bit of work in a few areas Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
popeye the sailor Posted April 10, 2020 #4 Posted April 10, 2020 perhaps a a trimmed piece of thin leather would cover them over. nice start on the air frame Egilman, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Beef Wellington Posted April 10, 2020 #5 Posted April 10, 2020 Hi Lou, looking great and I'll follow with interest. What will the final model look like? Egilman, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
ASAT Posted April 10, 2020 Author #6 Posted April 10, 2020 Ooops yeah, I posted this in a different thread, here’s the box again..... wipes are not included..... but necessary! Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
ASAT Posted April 11, 2020 Author #7 Posted April 11, 2020 Well, I worked over some area’s and have all the cockpit stuff done except for the instrument panel.... waiting for the airscale decals for it.... started work on the Napier engine, filling in a couple huge pin marks that will be right on top of the Sabre motor.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
ASAT Posted April 11, 2020 Author #8 Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Ooops forgot the oil and oxygen tanks.... Edited April 11, 2020 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Old Collingwood Posted April 12, 2020 #9 Posted April 12, 2020 That looks really nice - so much detail. OC. Egilman, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
ASAT Posted April 12, 2020 Author #10 Posted April 12, 2020 Thanks OC... there’s even more you can’t see, some of the black boxes and wiring/pipes got pretty fiddly.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Edwardkenway Posted April 12, 2020 #11 Posted April 12, 2020 Looking very nice Lou!😁 Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 - on hold HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64 - FINISHED Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - FINISHED Providence whaleboat- 1:25 - FINISHED Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
lmagna Posted April 12, 2020 #12 Posted April 12, 2020 Looking fantastic Lou. You certainly know how to get up and move along in a build! Egilman, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
James H Posted April 12, 2020 #13 Posted April 12, 2020 That's coming along nicely. Remember that this kit has very tight tolerances when it comes to closing up those frames in the wing and also the fuselage shell sections. Triple check that underside of the fuselage so that it cleanly closes up along the panel line. I checked the various subassemblies inside the fuse/wing, as often as I could. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
ASAT Posted April 12, 2020 Author #14 Posted April 12, 2020 Thanks James, whew! Had me nervous for a bit there, I pulled out hose pieces, cleaned them up and the fit is great so far... still not sure how I’m going to tackle the canopy turtle deck area, I want to clean it up and re scribe and rivet but I’ve never done either of those things before.... gotta be easier than grafting in a whole new panel though.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
ASAT Posted April 13, 2020 Author #15 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Here’s the main block and supercharger of the Napier motor - just dry fitted and some initial dry brushing to accent the detail - there are little bolts there that I didn’t even see till I started brushing! I’m having a blast on this motor! I hope I still do when I start doing all the pipes and wiring - looks pretty hairy! Edited April 13, 2020 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Old Collingwood Posted April 13, 2020 #16 Posted April 13, 2020 That looks really nice so much detail at this scale. OC. popeye the sailor, Canute, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
mtaylor Posted April 13, 2020 #17 Posted April 13, 2020 24 cylinders with two spark plugs per cylinder... I'd sure hate to be one changing spark plugs. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Beef Wellington Posted April 13, 2020 #18 Posted April 13, 2020 Looks great Lou, how much of this detail will be visible - I hope lots! Egilman, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
yvesvidal Posted April 13, 2020 #19 Posted April 13, 2020 Kudos to Airfix for designing and manufacturing those big kits. Yves popeye the sailor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote
ASAT Posted April 14, 2020 Author #20 Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Glued on the supercharger and got the motor installed, quite a bit of plumbing to do and some of them are like those old ring puzzles.... got to twist and finesse them into place - a bright spot light would help to see some of the termination points hidden in the interior of the maze.... 😅 Edited April 14, 2020 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
lmagna Posted April 14, 2020 #21 Posted April 14, 2020 That is really quite an engine Lou Edwardkenway, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
ASAT Posted April 14, 2020 Author #22 Posted April 14, 2020 6 hours ago, lmagna said: That is really quite an engine Lou I agree Lou, it’s one of the things that attracted me to the model, that and the air intake, reminds me of the A7-E’s that I worked on in the Navy.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
ccoyle Posted April 14, 2020 #23 Posted April 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, ASAT said: that and the air intake, reminds me of the A7-E’s that I worked on in the Navy I have always thought that the Tiffy's big radiator intake gave it a particularly hulking and menacing look. My card modeling interests lean toward the interwar years, but I think that I might one day have a slot in my queue for a Typhoon. mtaylor, lmagna, Old Collingwood and 6 others 9 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
ASAT Posted April 14, 2020 Author #24 Posted April 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, ccoyle said: I have always thought that the Tiffy's big radiator intake gave it a particularly hulking and menacing look. Yep, it would be a perfect platform for a shark’s mouth graphic.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
yvesvidal Posted April 14, 2020 #25 Posted April 14, 2020 24 cylinders...! That explains why it needed that massive radiator. Yves Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote
popeye the sailor Posted April 15, 2020 #26 Posted April 15, 2020 very nice progress Lou........engine is really neat! Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
ASAT Posted May 23, 2020 Author #27 Posted May 23, 2020 Did some more engine work, the ignition harness to be exact, there was a plethora of flash/mold lines - itty bitty little tiny lines that stuck out like a sore thumbnail? 😁Took quite a few hours to get them ready for paint, lots of fine work mostly with a #11 blade. Tried to emulate some of the Napier Sabre engine harness on google, seems like the main tubes are aluminum but have been heat soaked and discolored yellowish, the leads are kinda magnesium looking and the spark plug boots are brass. Washed it down with some engine weathering paints from AK interactive.... came out pretty good! Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
ASAT Posted May 23, 2020 Author #28 Posted May 23, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 6:47 AM, Beef Wellington said: Looks great Lou, how much of this detail will be visible - I hope lots! Hi Jason, just saw this post again.... they give you several options to show detail - the one that shows the most has the whole nose de- paneled but I plan on depicting it like JamesH (James Hatch) did for his magazine builds with the port side engine exposed and a couple on the port side off around the intake/radiator.... I know it won’t look as good as his but at least I can impose on him as a resource!😀 EDITIO EDITIO Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Egilman Posted May 23, 2020 #29 Posted May 23, 2020 Looks nice Lou... That's one big baby.... Figured out where your going to build the hangar yet? Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ASAT Posted May 24, 2020 Author #30 Posted May 24, 2020 'Yep - gonna build a big display shelf out in our sunroom, doesn’t get as much use as it used to, so I’m pretty sure I can move in and re-decorate without too much resistance.... maybe....😇 Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
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