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Posted

I'm going to start on the Batavia by Kolderstok.  I was attracted to this model because of the colors (see Pic #1), and also because I wanted to try out a Kolderstok model.

 

What's in the box:

  • Laser cut boards
  • Lots of wood
  • Parts
  • Instruction manual and plan sheets

 

Note the manual -- I really like manuals with accompanying pictures.

 

There's also an interesting parts bag with white resin-like parts.  I haven't seen this before.  Either it's injection molded, or possibly done on a 3D printer, which would be a first for me.

 

I ordered this model directly from Kolderstok (http://www.kolderstok-models.com/index.en.html), and I want to particularly commend the wonderful pre-sale service I received from Hans van Nieuwkoop.  I had outstanding communication from him via email, and he offered me several different customization options, one of which (an all-walnut second-planking) I took, because I like the look of all-wood hulls vs. painted hulls.  Really excellent service and professional shipping.

 

So here we go on another one.  I haven't seen any logs on Batavia, so I hope this one contributes.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

David, thank you for your nice introduction. Sure I'm going to follow your log, and if there are any questions, please ask!

 

Hans

Hans   

 

Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships.

 

Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available   

Posted

I have actually walked over the Batavia in Holland and was a very impressive ship.

Very similar to the Vaasa .

Look forward seeing this model develop.

Snoepert.

Current Projects: Souvereign of the Seas by De Agostini

                            Sciabecco. By Amati

Finished projects: Port Jackson by Modellers Shipyard

                             Botter boat by Amati

                             King of the Mississippi by Artensia Latina

                             Endeavor by Artensia Latina

Posted

The first step is to add two pieces to the keel at the bow, and the alignment of those is very tricky.

 

It wasn't until after I had mounted them that I looked ahead and realized that there needed to be a constant gap of 1.5-2.0mm where the bow curves.  This is to provide a slot for the frames once a slightly wider keel piece is installed.

 

On the starboard one (Bow Piece 1), I got the gap right (more or less by accident) but had to do some filing to get the slots perfectly aligned, although I thought I had accomplished that when I mounted it.  

 

Then on the port one (Bow Piece 2), I got the slots aligned but the gap along the curve disappears at the top.  So after studying the fit of the slightly wider keel pieces, I sanded and filed it down to create the right gap (Bow Piece 3).

 

I mention all this because that sanding/filing operation has to be done, if needed, before the frames are mounted.

 

I have also started dry-fitting the frames and they are made of very nice plywood, and fit perfectly.

 

Regards,

David

 

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted (edited)

The basic hull structure is complete, although I still need to do:  keel parts, sanding frames, balsa blocks, and reinforcing rib replacement.

 

I built this by dry-fitting everything you see in the pictures before gluing anything, which was important as there were a couple of tight deck slots that needed to be opened, and the alignment of the stern parts depends on having them all installed.  Then I glued from the front back, using CA gel along the joints.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

I'll be following along on your build of this beautiful ship, David. It looks like it will be a fairly advanced model and I'll be able to learn a lot watching you build her. Good luck!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

 

 

 

Posted

Chris:

 

It's a single-plank ship, so lots of bulkheads is a good thing.

 

Regards,

David

David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted (edited)

I have begun work on the gun ports.  They are mounted on three slats you can see in the second picture.  The manual suggests mounting the rear of the gun port (the piece with the hole) on the slat first, and then building the gun port around that.  I felt it would be easier for me to build them off the ship and then mount them, as you can see in the first picture.  Third picture shows two mounted gun ports.

 

The cannons have a shaft extending from the back of the cannon that fit into the hole.  There are no gun carriages, as they would be below decks and not visible.

 

By the way, Hans provided me with an all walnut hull planking option, which I like better than a painted hull, so there is no basswood hull planking in the kit -- that's why you see the slats made from walnut.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

The starboard gunports are now done and mounted.  I'm going to run an extra bead of glue around them to be sure they are really fixed on so that they won't pop off when they are sanded down to flush with the frames.

 

Now on to the port side.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

I have mounted the lower deck (see below), and I have a building note.  The sternmost deck won't fit unless you cut it.  I cut it in the wrong place on the starboard side, so had to make a second cut, and then replicated that cut on the port side.

 

It's all planked over, so no problem, but it took me a while to figure out why I couldn't get that deck to fit in one piece.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

Looks like a great start David, I will be watching this build. 

Current build: Model Shipways “Confederacy “

 

Completed builds:

Mamoli “Royal Louis“

Mantua “Royal Caroline”

Scratch 1/4 scale gondola “Philadelphia”

Scratch “Hannah” from Hahn plans. 

 

Posted

I've planked the lower deck, and fashioned and installed a hatch that will be visible from decks above.

 

The sharp-eyed among you will notice that I forgot to plank one small section between the right upper frames -- but I've checked the drawings and it will be completely enclosed, so I'm not going to fix it.

 

Speaking of drawings, I also noticed that I need to add a second layer of planking in the center area moving forward from the main hatch.  I'll do that and varnish it on the next varnish round.  What this made me realize is that I have to study the plans and drawings much more carefully, as there is info on them that isn't referenced in the manual.  There are also some sequence issues to catch -- for example, reading ahead I've noticed that there is a knighthead attached to this deck aft of the main mast.  It would be very difficult to install once the deck above is installed, but the deck installation comes much earlier in the manual then the place where the knighthead is mentioned.  So i'll fashion and install it now before that deck goes on.

 

So more reading forward, and more studying the plans.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

I know, and it is a little flaw in the instructions which I will "fix" when I am going to re-write them.

Unfortunately a day has only 24 hours, and they still haven't introduced the 8-day week over here 🤥

Hans   

 

Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships.

 

Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available   

Posted

Hans:

 

Another "fix" I might suggest is to not replace the beams on frames 4, 5 and 9 until after the Deck A planking is done and sanded.  Would make the sanding just a bit easier, but not a big issue.  

 

I am loving this kit so far.  😁

David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

I've made and installed the knighthead referred to in my previous post.  Pictures show it installed before the upper deck was installed, and then after.  You can see that it would be difficult to install after -- although there is a small hatch directly above it that would provide some access.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

All of the decks are now on, and I've installed the first wale on the starboard side (see picture).

 

Then I hit a sequence issue.  I began to install the wale because of the manual sequence, but looking ahead, I saw that the hull planks need to flank the edges of the stern planking.  So I stopped gluing the wale toward the stern, completed that and sanded the stern edges (see picture), and then completed the wale to the stern.  I'll sand out the glue marks later on.

 

Now I'll focus on hull planking.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted (edited)

Addressing two planking issues:

 

I have installed the two 6mm wales (with a 6mm spacer in between).  Hans wonderfully provides tic marks on the frames to guide the placement of these so that you get the right line.  I haven't installed the second planking layer over the wales yet.

 

The next wale above is 4mm, with four 4mm spacers between it and the ones I had installed.  I wanted to be sure that wale was back on the tic marks for it, as it creates a nice line for the planking above.  But I also figured that if I kept it on the tic marks, there wouldn't be space for exactly four 4mm planks between.  Or alternately, if I went ahead and installed the four 4mm planks first, the wale above them would be slightly above the tic marks (because nothing on my models fits perfectly   😁).  Turns out all that was right.

 

I decided to install the 4mm wale anyway, as shown in the large hull picture, to be sure it was on the right marks.  You can see in the close-up that there is in fact space now for only 3 1/2 4mm planks between.  That is easily solvable, because these planks run right through the gunports, and so I can cut down shorter lengths to 2mm wide and install them between the ports.

 

The second issue is running those four 4mm planks up at the bow.  The 6mm wales take an upward line at the bow.  I've seen a log where they level off there, but that log used basswood, which is much easier to twist and bend.  So I let the 6mm planks run naturally at the bow.  Looking at the resulting bow picture after installing the 4mm wale, I can now taper the 4mm planks up to that 4mm wale at the bow and get them flush, and it will all work out.

 

I know the text above is convoluted, but hopefully the pictures will help sort it out.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted (edited)

Planks are sometimes a little bit wider than the 4 or 6 mm it should be. Then these differences can occur.

Edited by *Hans*

Hans   

 

Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships.

 

Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available   

Posted

OK, so here's round 2 on the planking issues raised in my not-so-clear post above.

 

On this ship, it's important that the planks follow a line defined by small marks etched into the frames.  That makes it easier to find the right line -- but those marks also define where certain special planks should be vertically on the frames:  the wales (double planks), and two painted planks at the top.  You can't just plank up to the top and then sand down.  It has to end with the right colored planks in the right place vertically.

 

If you just plank up from the middle to the top, you can't hold that vertical alignment because, as Hans says above, there are variations in wood width.  So it's important to "re-set" by installing the next key wale up and then fill in.

 

You can see that in the picture that has a gap in the planking.  I started with the bottom 3 planks, which are 6mm wide.  The lowest and third up of those will become wales by adding a second plank on top.  Then the planking diagram calls for four 4mm planks followed by a fifth 4mm plank that will also become a wale.  That fifth plank (the top one in the picture) needs to be in a certain vertical position indicated by tic marks on the frames.  So after planking the bottom three 6mm planks, I moved up and installed that top plank.  What that left was insufficient room to install four 4mm planks, and you can see that I've done 3, and the remaining gap is about 2mm wide.

 

So then I used my planking vise to cut down planking to fit into that gap, and you can see the result of that in the finished picture with no gaps.  The process was easier because I could use short lengths between the gunports.

 

I'll have to do the same thing moving up again, because there is another key plank further up that has to be properly aligned.

 

I mention all this in case it's valuable to others who get to this point.  Once you figure it out, it's actually pretty straightforward.

 

Finally, it should be obvious that I can't neatly cut gunports.  Never have been able to, never will.  I will eventually dress these with external walnut frames.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted
5 hours ago, drobinson02199 said:

 

 

Finally, it should be obvious that I can't neatly cut gunports.  Never have been able to, never will.  I will eventually dress these with external walnut frames.

 

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You may use a thin strip of stainless steel or brass as a guide. Just clamp it in the correct position, roughly shape the port with a file and use a needle file for the last steps. The steel strip will act as a border and is hard to damage with the file, so you can achieve very clean edges this way.

Current Build:

HM Brig Badger 1/48 from Caldercraft plans

Le Coureur 1/48 by CAF


Completed Build:

Armed Virginia Sloop 1/48 by Model Shipways / Gallery
HM Cutter Sherbourne 1/64 by Caldercraft / Gallery

Posted

I have almost finished planking the walnut part of the hull, and I'm eager to sand and varnish this to see how it looks.

 

Another alignment exercise:  at the top, there are two painted planks that go on above the walnut, and they need to be aligned with tic marks on the frames.  So as you can see in the close-up, I have jumped to the highest walnut plank and have aligned it just below the tic mark for the first painted plank.  Then I will fill in the gap that will have an odd-width plank.  If I had just "planked up", I'd have ended up too high on the frames.

 

Once I get these done, I'm going to sand and varnish the whole hull, which at the moment is a single level of planks.  Then I'll add the wales on top.  It would be more difficult to sand in between the wales if I put them on before varnishing.

 

Regards,

David

 

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

Here's a picture of the walnut part of the hull after the first coat of varnish.  A couple of comments on this kit.

'

When I bought the kit, Hans of Kolderstok asked me if I'd like an all-walnut hull (compared to the stock hull with painted bottom made of basswood).  I opted for all-walnut because I love that look on my hulls.  Hans provided it at no extra charge.

 

I had some concern about how this would look because it's a single-planked hull, and most of my first planking layers have some visible flaws.  But the walnut Hans provides is the best quality I've worked with to date -- 1.5mm thick and doesn't have the "chips and flakes" I've encountered with other walnut.  So my first and only layer (taking my time) came out well.

 

My next step (after sanding and varnishing this again) is to add the wales.  I'm currently debating whether to paint them black (as on the stock model), or keep them natural.  Leaning toward natural.  I pre-selected some darker strips for the wales so there should be some coloration difference if I stay natural.

 

Regards,

David

 

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

Posted

Tip for a "natural"  dark look with walnut:  Take half a jam jar with vinegar (6 or 7 fl. oz. or so), dissolve a tuft  (one inch size) of steel wool in it (this can take a few days) and spread this mixture on the walnut. This will immediately darken the wood.  Of course this does not work on varnished wood, and try first on some rest wood.

Hans   

 

Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships.

 

Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available   

Posted

I decided to go with the natural look for the wales.

 

I built a jig on my worktable to bend the wales.  I free-bent the main planks using my steamer, but I wanted to make sure that the wales laid down well and in the right position, so I used the jig for those.  I used steam to allow me to bend the wood into the jig and soften it, and then a hair dryer to set the bend.

 

The other pictures show the wales from several different angles, and also show the framing I did on the gun ports.  As mentioned earlier, I really butchered the cutting of the gun ports, so I took some walnut strips I had left over from a previous build and framed them.  Looks much nicer now, although it's not the look that Kolderstok specifies in the manual and plans.

 

Regards,

David

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David Robinson

Boston, MA area

 

Completed:  Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina  King of the Mississippi, 

Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter

 

Currently Building:  Amati Bismarck

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