Wütender Hund by ccoyle - FINISHED - Shipyard - 1/72

[Chuck Seiler]

I am jealous.  I am about the same place but mine is crappy less good.  Also, you are doing a better job of documenting.

[ccoyle]

1 hour ago, Chuck Seiler said:

mine is crappy less good

😂

[ccoyle]

Well, a plank here, a plank there -- slowly the work is progressing. Here is the progress to date:

Mostly I'm making this post to document for other builders a problem that I have been having with the planking at the stern. I've been running into a lot of trouble with closing the seams where planks overlap -- but only at the stern. Hmm. Here's a shot of the bow:

As you can see, everything looks nice and tidy.

 

But now, here's the stern:

You can see that there's stubborn gaps forming as a result of needing to bend the planks a certain amount in order to make them align properly. Of course, the close-up photo makes the problem look much worse than it actually is, and a person would have to view the finished model from a very awkward angle to see the open seams, but still I'm finding it rather annoying to try and correct.

 

Two more strakes, then it will be time for the first application of stain.

[Louie da fly]

Nonetheless it's looking very good, Chris. That's going to be a very attractive model. I'm a bit of a cog freak, so I'm enjoying following this build.

 

Steven

[Dziadeczek]

Perhaps, while you pre bend your wet planks to fit the hull, you should also try to edge bend them a bit with your hot iron. Attach (glue) them only if they lay perfectly on the hull - that way you will avoid these gaps.

Also, earlier on, you were right with those Polish markings: the letter L in Polish means strona "Lewa" (left) and the letter P means Prawa (right) side of whatever.

I still remember my Polish, after leaving the country 40 years ago (!). So, if you have any problems with understanding your instructions, ask me and I'll try to translate this fragment for you, OK?

[Keith Black]

The hull looks fantastic, great workmanship. 

[Chuck Seiler]

Looking good!  Will you pencil dot your nails later or leave them as they are?

[Moab]

Looking excellent...Moab

[ccoyle]

13 hours ago, Chuck Seiler said:

Will you pencil dot your nails later or leave them as they are?

Hadn't thought about it. It would be a lot of work, and I subscribe to the "less is more" school of thought on treenailing.

[Chuck Seiler]

When all is said and done, by the time you get the stain and no pencil dots, the existing 'nails' will be visible but sufficiently subdued so as not to overwhelm the model, like on mine.

[ccoyle]

Next milestone reached

 

After eight nine strakes of lapped planking, the instructions call for staining prior to installing stanchions. The Polish name for the suggested stain color wasn't translated, but in the photos it looks something like golden oak. I went instead with golden pecan, which has a redder tone. I like the result.

[ccoyle]

@Chuck Seiler Chuck, I hope you like gluing in false frame extensions! I finished up the starboard side -- all 37 of them. Now onto the port side!

[Chuck Seiler]

For me it is more than 37...or maybe 37 with complications.  Since I am having to cut some of the planking pieces and inserting longer planks (see above)(edit...oh wait, this is your log, not mine...see my log for discussion on planks) I need double thick frame extensions at the point where the joint is.  So far so good.

[ccoyle]

41 minutes ago, Chuck Seiler said:

I need double thick frame extensions at the point where the joint is.

Ah, yes -- I forgot that some are doubled, so really only 34 per side. It went pretty fast, though.

[Chuck Seiler]

My decks are wood and I gave them a coat of Wipe On Poly.  On my first extension, it stuck to the planks but not the deck.     For follow-on extensions, I had to rough up the spot on the deck a little.

[Landlubber Mike]

That looks really nice - very well done!

[Chuck Seiler]

I used Golden Pecan either for the interior or exterior of my PHILADELPHIA.  It's a great color...good choice.

 

The nails look good without the pencil dots.

 

Are you staining the interior as well?  If so are you using oil based or water based.  My concern is for the glu-ability of interior frame extensions and other support lattices.

[ccoyle]

6 hours ago, Chuck Seiler said:

Are you staining the interior as well?  If so are you using oil based or water based.  My concern is for the glu-ability of interior frame extensions and other support lattices.

Yes, I stained the interior, though the reverse side of the ply doesn't take the stain as well. I had to go with oil-based stain only because the local stores had a pathetically small selection of water-base colors to choose from. Home Depot had maybe two, and I think Lowe's had none at all, at least not in the small cans. I'm not going to buy a gallon of stain for one model. Anyways, I have not had any problems so far with gluing the frame extensions.

[ccoyle]

Last night I finished installing the frame extensions -- all 68 of them (bleh). No picture at this point, because despite the sheer number of parts, it doesn't represent a huge leap forward in progress. Planking the bulwarks will be the next significant task.

[catopower]

Beautiful work, Chris! I think this puts you, Chuck, and myself roughly at the same stage. Only, I've had a lot of unrelated issue get in the way that's pretty much halted my progress for the past month or more. Hope to get some progress going again, so I don't fall too far behind you guys!

 

 

[ccoyle]

Next update: Frame extensions and the last planking strake that goes with them completed, along with the remaining interior framing at bow and stern. One issue to look out for, albeit a very minor one, is that the the last three interior frames at the stern had the left and right labels (L and P, in Polish) reversed. Not a big deal, since the parts are identical, but using them as labeled will result in the reverse side of the ply facing out, if that makes a difference to anyone.

The fit of the frames isn't as perfect as the next photo suggests; some of the frames extend slightly above the bulwark (how much above depends on how good a planking job one does) and must be cut and sanded flush with the top edge.

That takes us through p. 17 of the hull construction.

[Rodolfo Bigoni]

Very interesting ship and well done work.

Rodolfo

[ccoyle]

Upper decks planked and hatchway installed. I had to stain a few bits off the model, so I went ahead and also stained the existing interior framing, along with the last plank that I installed. Looks pretty sharp, I think -- it's kind of growing on me.

[druxey]

Growing on us as well, Chris! She's looking good.

[Landlubber Mike]

That’s looking really nice.  Great job!

 

[ccoyle]

Further progress. I'll call this first shot a pic of the "kinda looks like a windlass thingy," even though I know it's not a windlass. Bit more of the interior bow framing added as well. Heads up @Chuck Seiler: That pseudo-windlass thingy took quite a bit of fitting to get it in there right. I had to remove some material on the starboard side.

 

And I also got the port-side interior bulwark planking done. When I originally did the outer planking, I was a little worried, because they didn't have much in the way of gluing surfaces. But once all of the interior framing and planking is added, the hull is actually quite sturdy.

 

Onward!

[Louie da fly]

Beautiful work, Chris. That shape is much rounder than I'd ever thought - very suitable for carrying cargo.

 

Steven

[Chuck Seiler]

20 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

That pseudo-windlass thingy took quite a bit of fitting to get it in there right.

The thing up forward?  I have seen it described as an above deck, athwartship deck beam...as opposed to the 4 or 5 that are below deck.  They all end up sticking out the sides like an old adobe house in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

 

Fore warned is fore armed.  I am about a week away from that.

[Chuck Seiler]

3 minutes ago, Louie da fly said:

That shape is much rounder than I'd ever thought - very suitable for carrying cargo.

As I mentioned in my log, pretty clunky looking but it did the job.  It didn't have to far or fast but it did have to haul the goods.  Later, when speed became more important, the length to beam ratios changed.

[FriedClams]

Interesting model Chris and you're doing a beautiful job.  Nice clean work and I really like the interior framing at the stern and bow.  Looking good!

 

Gary