Hannah by GrandpaPhil - FINISHED - 1/72 - CARD - from Hahn Plans

[GrandpaPhil]

I seem to have a bad habit of cutting off cut waters and replacing them.

 

I replaced Victory’s entire beakhead because the geometry was wrong.

 

I have now replaced the beakhead for both the Prince de Neufchatel and the Hannah because I keep breaking them off when they are made of card:

[gieb8688]

This is getting interesting!!

[GrandpaPhil]

It has been a very fun build so far.
 

I made a new beakhead:

Here it is attached:

 

It’s actually fixed in place with steel pins.  The glue is really only filling the gaps.  It won’t break now, lol.

 

I need to start making them from wood from the get go, instead of retrofitting them when the original one breaks.  Lesson learned.

[VTHokiEE]

9 minutes ago, GrandpaPhil said:

It’s actually fixed in place with steel pins.  The glue is really only filling the gaps.  It won’t break now, lol.

Very nice solution; thinking of the structure of card board - so the pins are going through several ridges (or whatever they are called) in between the exterior layers and then the glue fills that gap between the final ridge and the wooden part?

[GrandpaPhil]

21 minutes ago, VTHokiEE said:

Very nice solution; thinking of the structure of card board - so the pins are going through several ridges (or whatever they are called) in between the exterior layers and then the glue fills that gap between the final ridge and the wooden part?

Thank you and, yes.  It’s actually quite sturdy.

[bolin]

Interesting build. Card is a fascinating material, cheap and accessible.

 

It will be interesting to follow this, and learn.

[GrandpaPhil]

I like using card.  It is extremely versatile.  
 

It is extremely cheap.  This project started as a box.

 

It is also easy to work.  You just have to work slowly and carefully.

 

I am making progress on the hull covering:

I trimmed the forward bulwarks a bit.  I checked to make sure I can get a scalpel in and I can.

 

I started planning out the bulwarks which are supposed to be an 1/8” thick.

 

Part of that is planning the gunports, which will be properly framed in with posterboard.  I’ll let you all know more about how I will do this, once I figure it out myself.

[GrandpaPhil]

I found a base board in my extra bases drawer:

It’s a 10 cent yard sale find.

[GrandpaPhil]

The first layer of hull covering is on:

Now, I just need to go and get some spackle.  Then, that will look a whole lot better.

[vaddoc]

This is very interesting. I must admit it is not easy to visualise how the ship will take shape but it is indeed fascinating to follow

[SIDEWAYS SAM]

Hi GP,

I agree with vaddoc, this build is fascinating.

Started watching mainly out of curiosity about a new building material

but staying with it as a very useful tutorial.

Enjoyed your Victory build so already familiar with your skills.

Keep posting.  This is good.

 

Sam

[GrandpaPhil]

I trimmed the bulwarks a bit, along with cutting the stern to shape.

I spent the first money on Hannah that I have spent so far.  I spent $4 on good spackling.

PS: I know my work area is a mess, I’ve been busy, lol.

[GrandpaPhil]

I mudded Hannah:

While waiting for the mud to dry, I decided to make the base.

 

I like cradle type bases because the pedestal type bases look awkward to me (unstable).

 

Due to questions asked by the newer folks about how to make a base, I will show how I am making mine.

 

I chose to place the cradles at a location which would approximately center the entire model on the base.

 

I marked the locations on the base board.

I traced the bulkheads, off the body plans, at the locations that I chose (c and h, for this one).  
 

For those building kit models which may not come with line drawings, they usually have the drawings of the bulkheads.  If all else fails, you can trace the lines from the cut-out in the sheet you took the bulkhead from.

 

I only traced to the waterline.
 

Note: ensure that you allow for the keel.

 

Then I marked where I wanted the base to be and allowed for the differences in the height of the waterline (Hannah has sharp lines and I want her to sit level with the waterline).

I used a triangle for a right angle and made a line to make the bottom of my cradle.

Then I drew the outside profile of the cradle.

 

Lastly, I folded the tracing paper and made a reflection over the centerline so the outside profiles matched.

It sounds complicated, but it took longer to type this up than to actually do it.

 

Next, I’ll enlarge the cradles on the copier and glue the pattern to wood.

 

[GrandpaPhil]

Rudder and stern pieces, ready to go:

[vaddoc]

I this a boat? Is it a plane? Is it the cake my daughters made?

Now this is a log I am hooked at. Dying to see where it will lead.

GrandpaPhil you certainly brought colour to our days! Lovely.

[GrandpaPhil]

Lol!  
 

The spackle goes on pink, but dries white to let you know when it’s ready to sand or paint.

 

The first layer is done and sanded and the base is made.  I prepped a second layer.

[popeye the sailor]

very neat project Phil.......    look'in good so far!

[Edwardkenway]

I'm watching this one with great interest, it's  tempting me to try it for myself. 

[GrandpaPhil]

12 minutes ago, Edwardkenway said:

I'm watching this one with great interest, it's  tempting me to try it for myself. 

You should.  The hardest part is trying.  I’ve seen your work.  You won’t have a problem.

[SIDEWAYS SAM]

Thanks for the tutorial on making bases.

Your builds are really worth watching.

 

Sam

[GrandpaPhil]

Thank you all for the comments and the likes!

 

Sam,

  I’m very glad you find my builds useful.
 

I sanded the second coat down and set it in its cradle.  I had to make a few adjustments.

I am currently working on getting the bulwarks, including the stern, cut to shape.  This means, I’m cutting off the corrugated parts and generally preparing to final shape everything.

 

[Gaetan Bordeleau]

I know that we saw some models made of paper but in my head there is something like of impossible. I must admit by seeing your results, it is very convincing and also, a very fast technic.

[GrandpaPhil]

Thank you very much!  I like working in card.  It works well for me.

 

Here is the forward deck:

 

 

[clearway]

thinking about strengthening the bulwarks- how about using thick card without the corrugations glued to the frames ?

[GrandpaPhil]

1 hour ago, clearway said:

thinking about strengthening the bulwarks- how about using thick card without the corrugations glued to the frames ?

I am using an inside layer of posterboard to set my bulwarks.  So far I have the forward deck done and trimmed off.

 

I installed my transom and planked over the curved section with 1/8” wide posterboard.

I traced out and reflected the forward bulwarks and glued them to the inside of the bulwarks, on posterboard.  

I cut the gunports as part of it.

The aft deck is now installed.

I will have some reputtying to do once I cut the aft bulwarks.

The stern is about 80% complete.

[GrandpaPhil]

One very rough, roughed out hull:

It only needs some minor shaping and I’ll add the wales and a couple pieces of trim.  Then I’ll make the second planking out of wood grain contact paper.

 

I’ll be honest, getting to this point is the hardest part of a ship model, for me.

[vaddoc]

The hull looks better with every post. Looking forward for the next chapter.

[luponero]

As you know I really like wood, but seeing your build I think I also like paper and cardboard, you are very good I follow you with great interest !!!

black Wolf

[GrandpaPhil]

Thank you both!

 

Thank you everyone for all the likes!

 

After looking at the model in the US Navy Museum, I ended up reshaping the stern and quarter areas of the hull with putty to make the wales go on correctly.

 

I made the wales and installed them.  I also made the quarter trim pieces.

I made the stern trim pieces and installed them.  I also cut the hole for the rudder.

I still have some more trim pieces to make, then I’ll add the second layer of planking.

 

I’m adding the trim first because the planking is contact paper, which is a plastic and this creates adhesion issues.

[GrandpaPhil]

All trim is now installed and the model is nearly ready for the second planking.

I need to trim the fashion pieces and seal the model before it can be planked with the second planking.  I will do the deck at the same time.

 

I am using the painting off the Navy’s History and Heritage Command for my primary color reference.  I will also use it as a reference for some of the detail work.

I have not yet decided on a color for the base.