Chuck Posted November 18, 2021 #121 Posted November 18, 2021 That looks great. I dont see anything wrong with those at all. Beautiful work. FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
FrankWouts Posted November 18, 2021 Author #122 Posted November 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, Chuck said: That looks great. I dont see anything wrong with those at all. Beautiful work. Thanks Chuck, then my next challenge is mirror the other one exactly now. Frank. Chuck 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted November 20, 2021 Author #123 Posted November 20, 2021 Small update on the bollards. Rustyj, Dave B, dvm27 and 11 others 14 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Chuck Posted November 20, 2021 #124 Posted November 20, 2021 Perfect.....well executed indeed. Chuck FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
FrankWouts Posted November 20, 2021 Author #125 Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Chuck said: Perfect.....well executed indeed. Chuck Thanks! Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
glbarlow Posted November 20, 2021 #126 Posted November 20, 2021 Really nice job shaping those. Now a reference photo for when get there. Well done! FrankWouts 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
FrankWouts Posted November 22, 2021 Author #127 Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 5:05 PM, glbarlow said: Really nice job shaping those. Now a reference photo for when get there. Well done! Thanks! Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Steve20 Posted November 23, 2021 #128 Posted November 23, 2021 I've been catching up on your build log, Frank; it's impressive what you've done. Everything finished clean and square, and the stern is looking very good. FrankWouts 1
FrankWouts Posted November 28, 2021 Author #129 Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 11/23/2021 at 11:31 AM, Steve20 said: I've been catching up on your build log, Frank; it's impressive what you've done. Everything finished clean and square, and the stern is looking very good. Thanks Steve! I have to work harder on my Winnie than for my boss then! Yours looks very good as well! Friday and yesterday worked 12 and 10 hours. Edited December 20, 2021 by FrankWouts typo Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted November 28, 2021 Author #130 Posted November 28, 2021 Corrected the upper sides of the transom filler pieces I forgot to sand before glueing them in. Checked with the transom piece if I’m still within reasonable boundaries, symmetrical and even. When the bowsprit hole in the bollards piece and in place, I now finally will finish chapter 1 this weekend. Stuntflyer, dvm27, Chuck and 16 others 19 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Beckmann Posted December 6, 2021 #131 Posted December 6, 2021 That looks almost perfect!! Well done. Matthias FrankWouts 1
jfhealey Posted December 6, 2021 #132 Posted December 6, 2021 That is looking fantastic. Keep going at that level and you will have a superb Winchelsea. Fred FrankWouts 1
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted December 9, 2021 #133 Posted December 9, 2021 Flawless Mathias. Congratulations. FrankWouts 1
Chuck Posted December 9, 2021 #134 Posted December 9, 2021 Yes very nicely executed. That will prove itself well worth the effort later. Stuntflyer and FrankWouts 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
FrankWouts Posted December 20, 2021 Author #135 Posted December 20, 2021 Thanks all and also for the likes! This is very encouraging! Yes! Two weeks Christmas holidays finally after working long hours for many, many weeks…finally some time to catch up in my now well-known slow but steady pace… Chapter two, here we go with step 1: getting the gentle S-curve in the batten port and starboard for the bottom of the wales. Beckmann, Edwardkenway, scrubbyj427 and 5 others 7 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
scrubbyj427 Posted December 20, 2021 #136 Posted December 20, 2021 Excellent work Frank, your slow and steady pace is really showing. Your model looks very crisp and clean and carefully put together. Well done. JJ FrankWouts 1 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship
FrankWouts Posted December 20, 2021 Author #137 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) Thanks JJ! I’m enjoying every inch forming, sanding and glueing and not thinking about how much work lies ahead before reaching chapter 9. Hobbying in the moment as with ‘mindfulness’ hahaha… Placed the second batten now and checking hights per bulkhead port and starboard now. As it’s almost evening now here, so I’ll put her aside in a few moments, read ahead further in chapter two in Chucks very clear instructions. I will eyeball the two battens tomorrow morning in first daylight and maybe make some last adjustments in ‘curve tension’ before using my 3B pencil to mark the lines for the bottom of the wales … Edited December 20, 2021 by FrankWouts again a typo… JpR62, scrubbyj427, rafine and 1 other 4 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 20, 2021 Author #138 Posted December 20, 2021 As a beginner, I have a question though. Is this how the bottom of the wales should touch the lower counter? Or should I sand that pointy edge of the lower counter round? rafine and Edwardkenway 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 20, 2021 Author #139 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) Also, is this sharp enough an edge at the lower bow? Edited December 20, 2021 by FrankWouts Jack H and rafine 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Trussben Posted December 20, 2021 #140 Posted December 20, 2021 It appears to me that you have sanded the bottom of the lower counter too much, it’s easy to check - look at the plans at the stern section or print out the frieze for that area and hold it to the counter to see if you need to make adjustments, better now than when you come to plank and find it’s wrong. FrankWouts and Stuntflyer 2 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
glbarlow Posted December 20, 2021 #141 Posted December 20, 2021 Great questions. I’m not that far behind you and benefiting from your nice work. FrankWouts 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
scrubbyj427 Posted December 20, 2021 #142 Posted December 20, 2021 My wales ended up right at the bottom of the lower counter.but as Ben described, i sanded mine too much and needed to fix using wood and filler. FrankWouts 1 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship
FrankWouts Posted December 21, 2021 Author #143 Posted December 21, 2021 8 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said: My wales ended up right at the bottom of the lower counter.but as Ben described, i sanded mine too much and needed to fix using wood and filler. 10 hours ago, Trussben said: It appears to me that you have sanded the bottom of the lower counter too much, it’s easy to check - look at the plans at the stern section or print out the frieze for that area and hold it to the counter to see if you need to make adjustments, better now than when you come to plank and find it’s wrong. That’s ofcourse the most obvious thing to check, I’ll do that, thanks! Hopefully it’s only just a matter of flattening the curve, as I ended exactly in the middle of stern piece D with the bottom of the wales as per the instructions. Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 21, 2021 Author #144 Posted December 21, 2021 9 hours ago, glbarlow said: Great questions. I’m not that far behind you and benefiting from your nice work. Thanks Glenn, I’m following yours with great interest and admiration too! glbarlow 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 21, 2021 Author #145 Posted December 21, 2021 8 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said: My wales ended up right at the bottom of the lower counter.but as Ben described, i sanded mine too much and needed to fix using wood and filler. When I’ll have to correct it, that would a good tip to follow, thanks JJ! Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 21, 2021 Author #146 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) It seems to be a little off, but not that severe. What I don’t understand though is how you guys all can end up in the middle of stern piece ST-D with the lower part of the wales and make the stern print fit exactly… Should the instructions instead say “the lower part of the wales should touch exactly between steen parts ST-C and ST-D”? Then the print seems to fit exactly… Edited December 21, 2021 by FrankWouts Error uploading last picture Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
FrankWouts Posted December 21, 2021 Author #147 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) I looked in our teachers’, Chuck’s and Mike’s logs and they have seem to have done it a little different too, so there’s not really a right or wrong I guess? I hope you don’t mind reposting your pictures, Chuck and Mike? Chuck: Mike: Edited December 21, 2021 by FrankWouts Also posting Mike’s stern pictures. Wahka_est 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Chuck Posted December 21, 2021 #148 Posted December 21, 2021 It looks a bit low in your pictures. But not too bad. Yes it is a bit over faired but not terrible. You need take pics and see how it looks from all angles. Split the difference and i think you will be fine. FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Stuntflyer Posted December 21, 2021 #149 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Frank, I got by here, but I did round off the bottom of the lower counter a bit to much. Refer to the plans to see the desired shape. You don't need to worry about the frieze fitting. Just try to shape the lower counter close to what is shown on the the plan drawing, Mike Edited December 21, 2021 by Stuntflyer Trussben and FrankWouts 2 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Trussben Posted December 21, 2021 #150 Posted December 21, 2021 What I meant was the shape of your counter was too much, see your blue vs green line, use the shape of the frieze to improve that - I had the same issue and had to fix it some just like JJ - its easy to over sand that area when fairing the hull. My frieze didnt fit perfectly either, FrankWouts 1 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
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