Regards from Spain

[Gus M]

Hello everyone.

I from Spain

I have come to this forum looking for information about models and how to start in the hobby.
The truth is that I have always been interested in naval modeling and I love the work I see from some of you and other sites.

The question is that I have been given four models, well, kits to assemble, three unopened and one started but the previous owner told me that he left because it was not going well and finally gave me the four.

They are these:

Scotish Maid by Artesania Latina, started, hull only.

New

One that is a section of the ship San Francisco of Artesania Latina.
Another one is a Providence Whale Boat, small, from Artesania Latina.
And another one, the HMS Terror of the Ochre brand that was bought at the end of last year and unopened it.

With this that I tell you, I have bought some tools that I have been looking for on the internet in bloigs, etc. and I have also adapted a place to work with them.

I have read that ideally I should start with the Providence Whaler because it is for beginners.

Could you give me some advice on this and which one to start with or follow the Scottish Maid?

Thanks in advance and I hope to learn a lot with you.

Regards

[mtaylor]

Welcome to MSW, Gixli.  I would recommend starting with the Providence Whale Boat as there are no masts and you'll learn much the model.  We do suggest you start a build log as it's a great way to document your build and also meet other modelers.

 

I did a search for the Whale Boat and found these results:  https://modelshipworld.com/search/?&q=Providence Whale Boat&search_and_or=and&sortby=relevancy

 

And there's this one... which is finished.   

 

[Jim Lad]

Hello Gixli, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. Some good advice there from Mark.

 

John

[JeffT]

Welcome to MSW. I agree with Mark, start with the whale boat.

[michael mott]

Welcome from the west side of Canada, you will find lots of great help and advice from the members here.

 

Michael

[Keith Black]

Gixli, welcome to MSW and the world of ship modeling. 

[Gus M]

Many thanks, much appreciate all comments fro wellcoming, @mtaylor , @Jim Lad , @JJT , @michael mott and @Keith Black

 

@mtaylor 

I have watched and read the threads carefully, they really are fantastic, thank you very much.

 

I have noticed that it seems that Artesania Latina does not make the kits very well or you have to "discover and guess things".

 

I'm a little "scared" to start with a kit and then I will not be able to do it, my experience is null in this and I have to learn everything.

 

Maybe I will consider buying one of OcCre to get started, I have seen this one and it seems that they are easier to work with, from what I have read (and I like it more than the Providence). And not is  expensive

 

To approach the HMS Terror that my friend gave me, I have to make at least a few, two or three before lower level.

 

https://www.occre.com/modelismo-naval/barcos/san-juan.html

 

What do you think about this? would it be a good idea?

 

Thank you in advance

 

Greetings

Gus

[JeffT]

I think that would be a good one to start with.

[Gus M]

thank you @JJT 

 

today I decided to buy this San Juan de OcCre to start, from everything I have seen, I am more convinced to start, I hope it does not take long to arrive.

[mtaylor]

Good choice, Gixli.  Not much rigging to overwhelm you.  Do plan on using the resources here such as planking tutorials located here:  https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/  and open a build log when you have the kit and are ready to start.

 

And also look at the other builds for this model.  The search feature here will be very helpful in finding build logs and also getting answers to questions.

[Gus M]

thank you @mtaylor

[Gus M]

13 hours ago, mtaylor said:

Good choice, Gixli.  Not much rigging to overwhelm you.  Do plan on using the resources here such as planking tutorials located here:  https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/  and open a build log when you have the kit and are ready to start.

 

And also look at the other builds for this model.  The search feature here will be very helpful in finding build logs and also getting answers to questions.

Thanks @mtaylor, yes, I will open a build log when I start, for the moment I am still preparing the workspace.

Thanks for the link to the videos and pdfs, I have already downloaded them all and translated them into Spanish to read them more easily.

The video sfantasticos, also have subtitles which can be understood in Castilian, it's amazing how well this man works, @Chuck

[Gus M]

hello, sorry to be so annoying with my questions

 

After more than a week of introducing myself in a Spanish forum about naval modeling, today, finally, I have received some answer, two in particular.

And they make me have doubts, even more.

 

They tell me that the best option would be to start with the San Francisco section because the difficulty is less than the other two options for this, the Providence or the San Juan de Ocre.

 

This is the one I have been given

 

I have found this compilation of @Osmosis but he has not finished it, he seems to have left the project, and it really seems to me that it does not involve a great difficulty, but it is only my opinion without experience.

Could you give me an opinion on this, @mtaylor @JJT @Keith Black @michael mott or @Jim Lad if it would be easier to start with this one and then do the other two before tackling a bigger project?

 

right now, I'm a little confused about which one to start with and not give up, I really want to get it right.

 

thanks in advance to all support

Gus

[Keith Black]

 Gus, IMHO I'd go with the San Juan. It's not an expensive kit and if in your first attempt it doesn't go as you had wished, get another inexpensive kit like the San Juan and try again. One thing this hobby requires is patience, take a deep breath and jump in. I wish you the very best with whatever one you choose. 

[Kevin]

Welcome to MSW, if you are still looking, Amati do some nice entry vessels, as do Billings, but the san Juan will fit the bill very nice

 

[Gus M]

1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

 Gus, IMHO I'd go with the San Juan. It's not an expensive kit and if in your first attempt it doesn't go as you had wished, get another inexpensive kit like the San Juan and try again. One thing this hobby requires is patience, take a deep breath and jump in. I wish you the very best with whatever one you choose. 

t6hanks you @Keith Black, the San Juan has not arrived yet but is on its way, according to the Amazon register, I still have time to think about it, advice is much appreciated

[Gus M]

1 hour ago, Kevin said:

Welcome to MSW, if you are still looking, Amati do some nice entry vessels, as do Billings, but the san Juan will fit the bill very nice

 

Thank you very much @Kevin, but I am not looking for anything else at the moment, if you look at my first post, I commented that I have been given these three already.

 

Scotish Maid by Artesania Latina, started, hull only.

 

New:

One that is a section of the ship San Francisco of Artesania Latina.

Another one is a Providence Whale Boat, small, from Artesania Latina.

And another one, the HMS Terror of the Ochre brand that was bought at the end of last year and unopened it.

 

Also, when I checked different compilation threads, I saw that La Providence was a bit complicated for me and I bought this one to start with, El San Juan de OcCre.

 

https://www.occre.com/modelismo-naval/barcos/san-juan.html

 

Now I doubt which one to start with because in a Spanish forum, after more than a week of asking, today they answered me that the easiest would be the San Francisco Section and after seeing the thread of @Osmosis it doesn't seem too complicated, at least until you get to the rigging.

 

thank you for your advice

Edited March 9, 2021 by Gixli

[michael mott]

Hello Gus, I am not really in a position to advise on a kit choice because I am not a kit builder. I would agree with the comments by Keith though, one builds confidence and skill incrementally, so starting with less complex and less expensive outlay of materials will give you the ability to begin the process with less costs in time and finances. 

 

Michael

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, Gixli said:

Thank you very much @Kevin, but I am not looking for anything else at the moment, if you look at my first post, I commented that I have been given these three already.

 

Scotish Maid by Artesania Latina, started, hull only.

 

New:

One that is a section of the ship San Francisco of Artesania Latina.

Another one is a Providence Whale Boat, small, from Artesania Latina.

And another one, the HMS Terror of the Ochre brand that was bought at the end of last year and unopened it.

 

Also, when I checked different compilation threads, I saw that La Providence was a bit complicated for me and I bought this one to start with, El San Juan de OcCre.

 

https://www.occre.com/modelismo-naval/barcos/san-juan.html

 

Now I doubt which one to start with because in a Spanish forum, after more than a week of asking, today they answered me that the easiest would be the San Francisco Section and after seeing the thread of @Osmosis it doesn't seem too complicated, at least until you get to the rigging.

 

thank you for your advice

sorry i did read your post incorrectly

[Gus M]

1 hour ago, michael mott said:

Hello Gus, I am not really in a position to advise on a kit choice because I am not a kit builder. I would agree with the comments by Keith though, one builds confidence and skill incrementally, so starting with less complex and less expensive outlay of materials will give you the ability to begin the process with less costs in time and finances. 

 

Michael

thank you for your response @michael mott

it's not about making an investment, I already have almost everything, maybe, as I go along, some tools or wood, but little else.

now it's about my confusion to start with one of the 5 models I  have, the San Juan de OcCre is on its way (this has been really my only investment so far).

my doubts were these:

The Providence, after seeing threads in this forum where the project was abandoned and many complaints about the material, I decided to leave it and postpone it for when I have more experience, it seems to me that it is more complicated than what they say in Artesania Latina.

now it's a matter of which one to start with of these two:

Section of San Francisco (I have put above a photo of the one I have that a friend gave me) I have seen a thread in the forum of @Osmosis and it does not seem complicated to me to begin with
o
San Juan de OcCre which is on its way to arrive in a few days. However, in a Spanish forum, after many days without answer, today they tell me that better the San Francisco Section .

So now I have the doubt of which is better to initiate me of the two, both I like and both seem to me that I could face them without giving up. 

The idea would be to be able to build at least the 5 kits that I have now.

 

by the way, your work is impressive

Edited March 9, 2021 by Gixli

[mtaylor]

Gixli,

I suggest first, don't panic.   Look over the cross-section kit and instructions.   Once you have all the models in hand, look them over again also.   All kits and model types have their advantages and disadvantages.  They also require different skill levels.   

 

From here, I would still say start simple with the Providence (no masts) or the Cross-Section.  Either one will give you skills for more complex models.  

 

Good luck on your choice.  Once you've picked the one, open a log and let the learning process begin.  There will be successes and failures along the way and re-works of bits previously done, but even the most skilled builder has reworks in the process.

[GrandpaPhil]

Welcome!

Edited March 25, 2021 by GrandpaPhil

[Mike from Aus]

Big welcome from down under in Canberra, Australia. You will get lots of good advice here.  Mike.

[Trond]

Welcome from Norway!

[Gus M]

big thaniks @Trond @Mike from Aus and @GrandpaPhil

[Gus M]

Hello again everyone, first of all, apologies for my absence, or not giving news, but my spirits and health did not help me.

After a long time in which I have had many serious health problems and some personal ones, it has been a long and hard time that has kept me away from many of the things that I liked and wanted the most. Now they have retired me due to my health pathologies, although I am still young (52 years old) I hope that now, after finishing treatments and achieving stability, a very tough judicial process with the SPANISH STATE to achieve retirement, now I am retired and with time for me, my family and my hobbys, with my health is good, of course,  as I said, I hope to have more time to dedicate to the things that I feel like doing, take care of my health, logically,  reading, watching movies, and learning to make ship models is something that I always wanted to do, I have a lot to read and see to catch up, I will do it little by little.

I reiterate my apologies, but really, this has been a very difficult path for me and my spirits were very low and I didn't want to do anything other than think about being able to recover.

PS I'm replying again in this thread because I don't think it's necessary to open a new one.

[ccoyle]

1 hour ago, Gus Martinez said:

very tough judicial process with the SPANISH STATE

 

I had a similar experience years ago with resolving a worker's compensation claim. Such things do certainly try one's patience.

[Gus M]

3 hours ago, ccoyle said:

 

I had a similar experience years ago with resolving a worker's compensation claim. Such things do certainly try one's patience.

Is terrible..thank you for your comnent

[Knocklouder]

[Dave_E]

Hi Gus, welcome back. 👍😀