Duchess of Kingston by Delf - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Boxwood version

[glbarlow]

Your clever solutions never cease to amaze. I’m pretty sure if I try the lathe axel rounding method I’d end up with a bunch of axelless cannon. 

[BobG]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:55 AM, DelF said:

Where necessary I used clamps as well as pins, with occasional edge bending:

 

I really like the mini c-clamps you used when you did the planking as shown in your post #20. Do you have a link for them? 

[DelF]

Unfortunately Bob I’ve had them so long I can’t remember exactly where I got them, although I think it might have been from a local market stall. I’ve got several in three different sizes and they’re really handy. Sorry I can’t be more helpful. 
 

Derek

[desalgu]

I love seeing all the little tricks and solutions you use.  Looks like you added a little "iron" piece on the back of the cannons that I don't remember being in the kit.  Or maybe I missed it which would be something I'd do.  Looks like it might have been used to adjust elevation of barrel on a real cannon.  I really like the boxwood carriages and the contrast with the black iron parts.

 

After fighting tiny cannon balls rolling all over the place and finally getting them inside the triangles, I thought maybe I should have used tape.  But I never would have thought of double-sided tape like what you did.   Very clever!

[DelF]

18 hours ago, desalgu said:

Looks like you added a little "iron" piece on the back of the cannons that I don't remember being in the kit.

The quoin, the little wooden wedge under the rear of the barrel, was indeed used to adjust the elevation. The quoin often had a handle at the rear to make it easier to push and pull in and out, which is what I tried to represent with a piece of wire. I believe the steps in the sides of the carriage also had a role to play, by providing pivot points at different levels for levers to move the barrels.

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by DelF

[Rustyj]

Very nice work Derek. Great to see you back at it!

[DelF]

Quarter deck rails, ladders, timberheads etc.

 

Thanks as always for the kind comments and likes.

 

I'm still just pottering around the deck furniture and other fittings, with plenty of distractions keeping me out of the dockyard. Although most of the fittings are built I've been reluctant to fit them as I go along as they tend to get in the way and get damaged. However I'm getting to the stage where I'm having to put glue to wood.  One of the first jobs was the forecastle timberheads - two large either side of the bowsprit and 12 smaller ones behind them. They needed a fair degree of sanding and filing to bring out their proper three dimensional shape. I also felt they looked better painted black rather than left natural:

 

Just visible in the photo above is the foremast base. The main mast base is clearer in the photo below:

For contrast with the mast and deck I decided to make my own mast bases from Swiss pear, using the method I described in another topic here.

 

I won't stick the bases down until I fit the masts.

 

Next I turned to the two ladders leading to the quarterdeck. Apart from the inevitable char removal the only slightly tricky steps were remembering that the port and starboard ladders were different, and holding the fiddly pieces during gluing. I ended up holding the side rails down with a length of wire pinned to a block of balsa, gluing the top and bottom steps first then filling between:

Here are the completed ladders being dry-fitted to check size and position:

The components visible on the quarterdeck are the two boards that cover the front edge of the deck either side of the canopy, and the handrail. I bent the handrail with dry heat via a hot air gun over a curved tin can. However the result was too curved, so to get it to conform to the required shape I clamped it to the quarterdeck overnight:

 

Next, I painted the covering boards black and glued them in place. I also painted the top edge of the door frame black to match, then glued the ballustrades to the handrail. Shallow cut-outs in the underside of the handrail made it easy to locate the uprights:

 

Here's the rail painted and in place along with the canopy which I painted copper:

 

Finally, I couldn't resist dry-fitting the guns:

 

When I fit them permanently I'll brush dilute matte acrylic medium on the breeching ropes to make them lie more naturally.

 

Derek

[Glenn-UK]

Looks nice, you are making an amazing boat

[DaveBaxt]

Derek you have done a lot of work sinse the last time I managed to take a look. You really work so fast considering how beautiful your work is. The deck fittings are coming along nicely and them gun carrages are superb to mention just a few.I f I could create something half as good I would be more than pleased with myself. Keep up the excelent work and I look forward to watching your progress. Best regards Dave

[Edwardkenway]

Having caught up on your log, DoK is looking fantastic Derek! I especially like your ladder making idea.

[glbarlow]

The ladder is a nice trick.  More of your crisp clean work, your log is always a fun read. 

[DelF]

Very little to report I'm afraid, as I've been caught up in other projects. However I've finally got round to gluing the cannon and most of the deck furniture in place so I'm posting a few pictures of the current state of play. Mostly components I've already described - the one small exception being the spouts on the pumps, simply made from short lengths of brass tubing.

 

Amazing what you spot in photos but miss on the actual model!  I've just noticed the main mast bitts are really wonky and will need fixing 

 

The only other work I've done recently is on the spars, where I've made some of the masts and yards.  I've had to put the Duchess in my dust cabinet to protect her while I file and sand the spars on the lathe, which makes lighting and photography a challenge. I'll record some of the detail in due course.

 

Derek 

[glbarlow]

Where have you been dude?

 

[DelF]

31 minutes ago, glbarlow said:

Where have you been dude?

Partly work around the house; partly other hobbies, especially astrophotography. Here's some recent shots - all from a suburban garden:

 

[glbarlow]

Nice!

 

Since we're sharing - here's one from the Quiver Forest in Namibia - MSW downgrades image quality - this photo is much sharper than what's shown as I'm sure your's are.

 

No more off topic I promise...maybe...

[desalgu]

Awesome photos by both of you!!   I do a little photography, but am very much an amateur.  Have not tried much at night.  Since I moved to Kansas, it's been mostly the zoo and gardens.  It seems we have some common interests besides model ships.  Thanks for sharing!

 

[Rustyj]

All I can saw is wow to both of you as I sit here very envious! 

[DaveBaxt]

Wow. What fantastic photos of the ship not to mention the Cosmos. You clearly have a number of different Talents. Thank you for sharing them with us.

[DelF]

Masts & Yards

 

Some progress to report. 

 

I've finished all the basic carpentry and ironwork on the masts and yards, and have started rigging the various blocks, lines and footropes. Following my usual practice I've made my own spars from boxwood, preferring the lighter wood to the kit material. Also, preparing the spars from square stock makes it easier to produce octagonal sections in the centre of the yards - with a couple of exceptions such as the mizzen yard and the cro'jack which are round throughout.

 

Here's the full set of yards before painting:

Care is required when making the mizzen yard (aka the lateen yard - the 3rd from the top of the photo) as the point where it attaches to the mizzen mast is slightly off-centre. Only by a few millimetres and easily missed, but it makes a difference.

 

I covered spar making techniques in my Speedy log so I won't repeat all that here, but will just mention a couple of slight tweaks this time round. A quick way I found to trim the corners off the octagonal stock held in the Proxxon lathe was with an old drill gauge - crude but effective:

 

I made more effort to get a nice transition from the central octagonal section to the round ends. I found the best way to do this with a file held securely on the lathe rest:

 

The rest of the process is just the usual tapering with sandpaper and files.

 

When fitting cleats to the yards I usually struggle to get enough contact between the flat cleats and the round yards for the glue to grip. On the Duchess I tried using my finest rat tail file to make the undersides of the cleats concave to match the yards. Difficult at this scale but worth the effort:

 

 

Various holes followed, using the micro drill attachment described in more detail here:

Then it was out with the spray gun:

 

I'll cover rigging the masts in the next post.

 

Derek

 

 

 

[Glenn-UK]

Great work as always.

[glbarlow]

Same great precision and quality techniques as always. A joy to watch your work come to life. 

[DelF]

Rigging the Masts & Yards

 

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

 

On my last model I found rigging the bowsprit quite challenging, especially the part where four deadeyes had to be seized into a ring. Here's how I tackled it on Speedy. This time round I decided to try a different approach,  making a strop from a circle of served line into which I seized the deadeyes. I worked out the length of line I needed by adding together the circumferences of all the deadeyes and the bowsprit, plus 10mm to allow for overlap and seizings. To my surprise this actually worked out about right!

 

As the line would be served I used some spare thread from a kit, while for the serving line I used Gutermann Mara #150 in dark brown. #150 is the finest thread I've got, apart from fly tying thread. I've not measured it precisely, but I doubt it's more than 0.1mm. With the kit thread it produced 0.5mm served line. Here's the Syren Serv-o-matic set up with a fine needle starting the serving line off:

Not shown on the photo, I spread dilute PVA on the first few millimeters of line before serving it, just to prevent any tendency for the serving to unravel. I wanted to leave plenty of spare serving line, so to prevent it tangling up as the machine span round I taped the excess out of the way:

 

To save having to cut long new lengths of thread for each strop I clipped the thread holder to the handle, meaning I was always dealing with a single complete line and minimising waste:

I'm always losing stuff in the workshop, so cut down on the frustration I try to keep tools where they're needed, as far as possible. So on the Serv-o-matic machine I've stuck a magnetic strip to hold the fine needle I only use for serving:

 

When I got near the final served length I smeared dilute PVA on the last few mills then threaded the needle through again, with a clip on the serving line to stop it unravelling:

 

When dried I made diagonal cuts at both ends, just outside the served portion, glued the cut ends together to form a circle, wrapped the spare serving line round the join, then finished with more dilute PVA before trimming:

I felt the result was a bit chunky, so on my next attempt I trimmed the serving line right back then used fly tying thread to reinforce the join. Here's the strop with the first three deadeyes seized in:

On reflection I could have used black fly tying thread as the brown is too light, but the join will not show as it will be hidden under the bowsprit. With 3 deadeyes in position I slipped the strop over the bowsprit and into its final position before seizing in the final 3mm deadeye:

I'll tackle strops on the masts next.

 

Derek

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2022 by DelF
Typo

[Rustyj]

Nice work and I'm off to get some magnetic strip too!

[glbarlow]

The ever clever Derek strikes again😎

[DelF]

More Strops

 

Thanks for the kind comments and likes - much appreciated.

 

I've tried to continue following full size practice in rigging the various blocks and deadeyes to the masts. I'll describe the method used in rigging a 3mm deadeye to the fore main mast.

 

Following the steps I described in my previous post I produced a served line 0.5mm in diameter and 40mm long, with spare serving line left at each end and cut on the diagonal just outside the served portion . The line needed to be long enough to form an eye at each end, seize the deadeye and wrap round the mast leaving a short gap between the eyes. The gap doesn't need to be too precise - just wide enough to allow a decent lashing between the eyes.

 

To form each eye I held the cut end in a loop with self-close tweezers while I wrapped the spare serving line round the join (I think I must have been stirring paint with those tweezers😬😞

I tried gluing the join first but found the result too bulky. Instead, I wrapped the join first, finished the serving line with a half hitch round the served line, applied dilute PVA and trimmed when dry.

 

Here's the result with the deadeye seized in:

 

Previously I would have used 18/0 fly tying thread for the seizing, but I found that the Gutermann Mara #150 I used for serving was thin enough to do a decent (ie non-bulky) job. I'll probably still use the fly silk for smaller tackle.

 

I've also got the #150 thread in the shade I plan to use for running rigging (shade #854 for running rigging, #696 for standing) so I used that for the lashing. I started by tying one end to a loop...

 

...then with the strop in place round the mast I used a needle to thread the line back and forth between the eyes to create the lashing, finishing with a hitch round the centre:

 

I've probably got the gap between the eyes a little wide in this example, but I still like the extra little detail.

 

Lots more blocks to attach to the yards next.

 

Derek

 

 

Edited May 11, 2022 by DelF
Correction - main mast, not fore

[desalgu]

Incredible!!  I've got a long way to go to reach anywhere close to your level.  Amazing detail stropping the deadeyes!  I'll be happy if I get anywhere close to what you've done.

 

Seeing your masts and yards, I think I'm going to have to invest in some tools.  Between table saw, sanding disk, lathe, milling machine, and perhaps something else I haven't thought of, what do you end up using the most?   in other words, what would you buy first?   

 

[DelF]

Thanks David, much appreciated, although having just caught up with your Duchess log I think you're being unduly modest!

 

13 hours ago, desalgu said:

I think I'm going to have to invest in some tools.  Between table saw, sanding disk, lathe, milling machine, and perhaps something else I haven't thought of, what do you end up using the most?   in other words, what would you buy first?

Machine tools can certainly help make jobs easier and quicker but careful use of hand tools can usually achieve the same end result and often with at least as much satisfaction. That mast head in your last post looks absolutely fine to me. Having said that, I love tools and asking a tool-o-holic like me which is my favorite is like asking me to name my favorite child*. Each has it's place, and most can be used for other jobs around the house. I've used the Byrnes saw to make picture frames and the larger mill and lathe to make plumbing parts that I couldn't find in the shops (always good selling points when trying to persuade the holder of the purse strings that I need another new 'toy'!).

 

(* Janet, but don't tell the other two)** 

 

A good table saw is indispensable if you want to cut your own timber and the Byrnes is certainly the class leader. However I still hang on to my old Preac for really fine jobs. Sadly the Preac company is now defunct, but if you ever see one on the second hand market I'd snap it up if I were you. Anyway, a good table saw would have to be the first serious purchase for me (I'm not counting Dremel-type drill tools as they're relatively modestly priced and I assume we're talking significant investments?). 

 

However the one tool I'd probably shed the most tears over if you took it away from me would be the Proxxon micro mill, purely because it has allowed me to tackle jobs I simply couldn't do before and has thereby greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the hobby. This was especially true when I built models by firms other than Vanguard and Syren and had to remake lots of out-of-scale and inaccurate parts. Just to give one example, kit ladders usually look far too chunky to me. The micro mill allowed me to make my own, being accurate enough to cut a series of precisely spaced slots 0.5mm wide and 0.5mm deep in 1.0mm thick timber to fit the steps. If you look round the site you'll find lots of examples of people putting the mill to good use.

 

Of course these are just my views - I expect other people would have different choices. The best advice I can give is don't just buy a tool because it seems like a good idea; wait until you've got a real need for a particular machine then do your research and go for the best you can afford based on that research. For example I didn't go for a wood lathe until I decided to make my own masts and yards from square stock and wanted to be able to shape them more quickly and accurately.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Derek

 

** Janet is a pseudonym 😬

 

 

[desalgu]

Derek, you're advice on anything about building model ships is invaluable!  

 

I've had the Byrnes table saw on my list, but haven't felt a need for it while building the Duchess since I used the kit wood.  Thinking ahead I have my eyes on the Cheerful, thinking that would be a good next step, and that would involve cutting more wood myself, perhaps a lot of it.  

 

For larger projects I have my father's old (from mid 1950's) 7" table saw, but it's too large for models except for cutting alignment or fill blocks.  I've also used it for things like display cases.  I've also got a Dremel rotary and an old jigsaw that I've had for years and used a lot on model airplanes.  But I have little that can deal with the small, detailed parts of model ships.  I'm still clueless how Vanguard and Syren make their tiny blocks!

 

But when starting to shape the masts, the proxxon mill came to mind along with a lathe.  I've not used a milling machine, so there would be a learning curve and it's a little intimidating, but I've been very impressed with what you and others can do with it.  I like how you cut the wood for yards into an octagonal shape and then could easily round it where needed.  I'd think you could round it without a lathe by just sanding and get good results.  I was also real impressed with how you cut the little grooves to represent sheaves.  I don't know how you could do this any other way.  I knew the part that you worked on and how small those grooves were.  Assuming I'll need to make more parts from scratch, like ladders and no telling what else, I can certainly see the value of a tool like this.

 

Thanks so much,  David

 

 

[glbarlow]

There is no saw but the Byrnes saw - it is indispensable for me (plus the tall fence, mitre fence and especially the cross cut table as accessories). It also would take me much more time to plank with much less accurate results without the Byrnes Disc Sander. Like Derek, I really love the Proxxon Micro Mill for doing stuff I couldn't otherwise do. Rounding it out, I didn't know how much I'd like having the Byrnes Thickness Sander until I got one, I intentionally mill planks a tad thick and then even them all to a consisted thickness, really helps with planking.  I enjoy having the relatively inexpensive Proxxon lathe, it's useful but for me so far limited to masts and spars, I'm sure there's more I could do with it someday. Like Derek, I can find a way to buy a new tool in any given moment.

[DelF]

9 hours ago, glbarlow said:

I didn't know how much I'd like having the Byrnes Thickness Sander until I got one, I intentionally mill planks a tad thick and then even them all to a consisted thickness, really helps with planking

A really good point Glenn. Kit supplied timber can vary considerably in thickness, even from the best companies. I try to plane planks down to an even size but it's a pain and I can see a good thicknesser being the best solution. How bad is the dust though?

 

Derek