RFM 1/35 Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf.G-Finished

[Javlin]

Already started and have to say nice fit thus far but just the beginning.I have another RFM with the complete interior I believe a Tiger I that has way more pieces than this kit and the box is 2/3" deeper/taller however you wish to look at it.The idea is to cut my teeth with the easier of the two kits and see how RFM like to assemble their stuff together.I have not decided on a paint scheme yet but I will have to look around here at the other builds that are happening and the net to figure the weathering aspect of the build.This may take a while.

Edited December 18, 2021 by Javlin

[Old Collingwood]

Looking forward to this one.

 

OC.

[Egilman]

I wouldn't miss this for the world!

 

 

 

[Baker]

I also follow along.

If there are any questions about the IV. Just ask 😉

[Canute]

I'm in. A Rye Field build should be a nice one.

[popeye the sailor]

my grandson asks me why I haven't built a tank.........one day perhaps     so........where's that gluey smell I hear tell about?

[Javlin]

11 hours ago, Backer said:

If there are any questions about the IV. Just ask 😉

Well do I can paint but my ability to weather even planes is iffy at best when I get to that juncture any input will be much appreciated.

[Javlin]

11 hours ago, Canute said:

I'm in. A Rye Field build should be a nice one.

It's a first for me to I spent 20 minutes putting on what I thought best may of been some 16 allen head nuts(?) on the underside maybe Backer can clear that up? I will take a pic of the region.The Tiger has the whole interior it could be next on the bench but I have also started the assault once again on the Revell 1/56 Civil War Blockade Runner using His Models blocks.

[Baker]

12 hours ago, Javlin said:

some 16 allen head nuts(?) on the underside

Difficult question   All my military models are on a base plate, so I pay little attention to the underside

 

Photos of the underside of a panzer IV (and most other tanks) are quite rare. The only hope is to find a picture of a damaged tank (upside down).
Nothing found yet 

https://www.google.com/search?q=panzer+IV+wrecked&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi-gL74oKbzAhVUrHIEHZAsBaMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=panzer+IV+wrecked&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDoHCCMQ7wMQJzoECAAQE1D-uQNYl8gDYIjbA2gAcAB4AIABoQGIAcAIkgEDMC43mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=SHJVYb68EdTYytMPkNmUmAo&bih=498&biw=1291&rlz=1C1GCEU_nlBE936BE936

 

A Panzer IV walkaround  (again no underside)

https://www.scalenews.de/sd-kfz-161-pzkpfw-iv-ausf-g-panzer-iv-walkaround-881/

 

http://walkarounds.scalemodels.ru/v/walkarounds/afv/before_1950/pz_iv_crocus/?g2_page=1

 

Ps

Here are some images of the bottom plate to see (you tube video)

https://ww2live.com/en/content/world-war-2-unique-german-panzer-iv-came-back-life-unearthed-restored-and-displayed-just-5

 

Edited September 30, 2021 by Backer

[Old Collingwood]

Dont know if this might help  - scroll down till it shows the bottom.

 

OC.

 

http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal/viewtopic.php?printertopic=1&t=21145&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&finish_rel=-10000

[popeye the sailor]

surprised that being as detailed as it is,  there wouldn't be molded detail.  

 

what was wrong with the supplied blocks for the ship?  I've used the Revell supplied blocks on all my 1:96 scale ships,  and they were fine.  I have a method with rigging them,  that doesn't put a lot of stress on the plastic eye bolts.  I haven't resorted to filling the masts with metal rod either.

[Javlin]

8 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Dont know if this might help  - scroll down till it shows the bottom.

 

OC.

 

http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal/viewtopic.php?printertopic=1&t=21145&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&finish_rel=-10000

That's it OC on the back the the suspension base guards and yes it was pretty far down the list

[Old Collingwood]

3 minutes ago, Javlin said:

That's it OC on the back the the suspension base guards and yes it was pretty far down the list

Glad it helped  mate.

 

OC.

[Javlin]

7 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

surprised that being as detailed as it is,  there wouldn't be molded detail.  

 

what was wrong with the supplied blocks for the ship?  I've used the Revell supplied blocks on all my 1:96 scale ships,  and they were fine.  I have a method with rigging them,  that doesn't put a lot of stress on the plastic eye bolts.  I haven't resorted to filling the masts with metal rod either.

Denis the idea is to get me ready for the Pride of Baltimore which I have the hull ready for planking just a scary-dee cat Russ was impressed with my idea for the stays and making them line up right. 

[Javlin]

13 hours ago, Backer said:

Difficult question   All my military models are on a base plate, so I pay little attention to the underside

 

Photos of the underside of a panzer IV (and most other tanks) are quite rare. The only hope is to find a picture of a damaged tank (upside down).
Nothing found yet 

https://www.google.com/search?q=panzer+IV+wrecked&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi-gL74oKbzAhVUrHIEHZAsBaMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=panzer+IV+wrecked&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDoHCCMQ7wMQJzoECAAQE1D-uQNYl8gDYIjbA2gAcAB4AIABoQGIAcAIkgEDMC43mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=SHJVYb68EdTYytMPkNmUmAo&bih=498&biw=1291&rlz=1C1GCEU_nlBE936BE936

 

A Panzer IV walkaround  (again no underside)

https://www.scalenews.de/sd-kfz-161-pzkpfw-iv-ausf-g-panzer-iv-walkaround-881/

 

http://walkarounds.scalemodels.ru/v/walkarounds/afv/before_1950/pz_iv_crocus/?g2_page=1

 

Ps

Here are some images of the bottom plate to see (you tube video)

https://ww2live.com/en/content/world-war-2-unique-german-panzer-iv-came-back-life-unearthed-restored-and-displayed-just-5

 

Backer luv the walk around site it's bookmarked did they use RLM02 for the interior of the tanks?

[Baker]

7 hours ago, Javlin said:

did they use RLM02 for the interior of the tanks

RLM02 is very greenish, so i dont think so.

More something ivory white (elfenbein RAL1001) in the crew compartiment 

Red oxide (primer) in the engine  compartment
Hatches can be in the same color as the outside but not always

 

these are my ideas 

But, It may also depend on the paint that was available. Crew interior definitely a light color for better visibility inside

 

Whermacht colors :

https://www.militaerlacke.de/fahrzeuglacke/2k-eimergebinde/wehrmacht/?p=1

Edited October 1, 2021 by Backer

[Egilman]

It was definitely an off-white.....

 

Panzer I...

Panzer III...

Panther...

Tiger I....

Now some of those might be postwar interpretation, but they look pretty genuine, (read very close) They are all museum pieces so I would say fairly accurate for the most part....

 

[Edwardkenway]

I'm in for this, just caught up to date, you guys come up with some great info! 

 

[Javlin]

After step #5 complete.The tracks had a small learning curve for someone who has never played with individual links less glue is better CA not so great.I liked the idea of the working suspension esp. if someone was doing a diorama.The kit does fit like a dream kinda like the Tamy of tanks without the cost so much.That's it for now assembling tracks  a little at a time so when the time comes I am ready.............

[popeye the sailor]

off to a good start  

[Javlin]

This is were I sit ATTM  the tracks are  a bit of a PIA and still look to loose with this one while the other looks better??both have 98 links?I am at a stage were some knowledge from ya'll is needed.......the tools on the deck what color?The instructions have me installing them at this point did they just shoot the whole tank camo?

[mtaylor]

I would think that anything like tools, probably water/gas cans, etc. hanging on the outside would be a solid color probably olive or even sand color.  Those would have all come from separate places, even as field replacements and probably not color matched as to paint patterns.  Been too many years since I did armor, so I'm going off what I remember.

[Old Collingwood]

Adding to Marks advice  I would also add  with things like  shovels  etc  wood handles  and an oily steal  for the blade  - same with sledge Hammers etc.

 

OC.

[Egilman]

2 hours ago, Javlin said:

the tools on the deck what color?The instructions have me installing them at this point did they just shoot the whole tank camo?

Tools were just tools paint them like tools... They usually came out of the factory in one color, camo was painted in the field, either a supply depot or most usually by the unit using it...

 

And they would strip off the removable items before painting, except for winter when they just whitewashed everything...

[Javlin]

OK  pics figured it was time just a couple though.I built the little handles that go under the windows of turret opening these allow the commander to look through armor plate glass.The handles comprised of PE and the standard part supplied by the kit.The inside of the turret opening is about to get another coat of white and then goes in the armor plate from the top now it appears to me leather pads exist between each piece of glass,I picture the commander hands up top of the pad with forearm on the pad looking out.The inside of the turret is my idea for this build the King Tiger with full interior will get more research sites already bookmarked.The main body still has more pieces to apply as well as the main turret it self.The KT kit tracks look beefier on the pins for the tracks as opposed to this kit cannot tell you how many I had to make!!!!

[Javlin]

Things are moving  slow just about ready to paint the tracks and add the skirts.I had a Sis come in town two weeks ago loves to go to antique shops I found four spindles(oak) 36" instantly  a project hit me so I have been in the other side of the shop.The hatch on the r/side will be open see the crack on closing.

[Javlin]

She is starting to look like a Tank now with the tracks in place.I black based the tracks then MM Stainless Steel with a fog of MM Burnt Metal at 10PSI from about 10" the track on the front I got a little to close with the BM.I did not worry about finishing off the wheels up top seeing how the skirts will be covering them.

[Landlubber Mike]

Very nice job Kevin, looks fantastic!

[Baker]

Looking great

[Javlin]

Progress being very slow ATTM to many irons in the fire and my Son is coming home for the first time in four years.