Wreck Diorama by Farbror Fartyg - The wreck of an old wooden ship

[Farbror Fartyg]

Hello

 

With my first build log^[1] on hold for a year, it's time to sail into new and uncharted waters (and then sink there).

 

First of all I'd like to say thanks to all the people who popped in with a thumbs up when I presented^[2] my idea

 

 

 

What I'm giong to build is this: A lit diorama, in a box, of an ROV investigationg an old wooden wreck in the blackness of the deep sea.

 

The inspiration for the project comes from two places. Firstly, from the abundance of remarkable wreck discoveries in the Baltic sea in recent years.

And secondly from an "art" project I abandoned some years ago - diorama night lights. I thought it would be cool if you could lie and gaze at some scene, say, your favourite street corner, while you drift off into sleep.

 

Now the night lights are back, but they're Wreck Lights now. Yes, Wreck Lights, That's what I'm going to build. 

 

The scale will be fairly small - it would be weird to have a night light the size of grandma's telly ... 

 

 

What I'm aiming for as far as the wreck itself is concerned is something like this:

http://www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id1236-The_Ghost_Ship_Expedition.html

 

It might be cool to do a fluyt. I really like fluyts, wrecked or not.

 

 

Any tips, sharing of thoughts, reference material etc. is of course much appreciated.

 

Lastly, I've done a silly illustration to show you what I have in mind (I won't build the kid ...)

 

 

 

[1]http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3046-toy-ship-by-farbror-fartyg-inspired-by-large-17th-century-ships/

[2]http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3063-wreck-site-diorama/

Edited January 16, 2015 by Farbror Fartyg

[SkerryAmp]

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Excellent!!

 

Glad to see the log up -  look forward to your approach!!!

 

-Adam

[DSiemens]

You don't see these different types of build very often on this site but when you do it's something special.  I look forward to seeing this build come together.  

[bhermann]

This is going to be fun.  I will be watching with great interest.   Thanks for thinking "Outside (or inside, in this case) the box" and sharing your ideas with us.

 

Bob

[dvm27]

Here's a link to a wreck diorama built by a professional ship modeler. It's later than the ship you wish to model but may give you a couple of ideas.

 

http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report5/dioramacomplete.htm

 

Greg

[Farbror Fartyg]

@Greg

 

That's pretty close to what I'm aming for. Thanks!

[Paul Salomone]

Hello Farbror,

 

This would be a fantastic diorama to build. constructing a timber ship model is one thing, but to create a sunken vessel with damaged areas, is quite a challenge.

 

Thumbs up mate - this shall be a good one.

[Farbror Fartyg]

Some thoughts.

 

The LEDs, I've bought a pack of 3 mm diameter ones, will determine the size of the ROV. 

The ROV will determine the scale of the rest of the diorama, so it will have to be constructed first.

I've found one that I like^[1].

 

To best convey the gaping, dark hollowness of an old wooden hulk, I think it would be best to use some sort of plank on frames solution for the wreck.

 

I'm pondering how to best represent silt accumulation^[2] on the wreck, and on object strewn about the sea floor. 

One way of doing it would be to "mist" the finished model with spray paint.

If you hold the can above, and quite far away from, the model, you can mimic "Neptune's gentle snow".

Some problems with that approach is that it will be hard to find paint of the right colour - I guess "Mud Grey - matt" isn't exactly the most popular colour.

Another problem is that spary paint can form blobs. We dont want that.

 

You could also perhaps use some sort of spray adhesive to mist the model, and then sprinkle mud coloured powder pigment over it. 

 

Or I could just paint it, the good old way.

 

[1]https://www.google.se/search?q=panther+rov&safe=off&rlz=1C1DVCJ_enSE462SE462&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=J-f2UeaqBoOKtAbS5ICICA&ved=0CE0QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=799#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=HRAExA0RH_8KOM%3A%3BxlamroPReCGaCM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sub-find.com%252Fimages%252FpantherROV.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sub-find.com%252Fpanther.htm%3B271%3B280

 

[2]http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/images/news_images/86/2002076_520_292.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid%3D86%26artikel%3D4803198&h=292&w=520&sz=29&tbnid=RHk0hYayoK1X4M:&tbnh=70&tbnw=124&zoom=1&usg=__EoveqzJwHKNSq_bFFVJRupawXg0=&docid=LKHLQKWVV-gUnM&sa=X&ei=EH_3UbCLB86w4QSs74HACg&ved=0CEIQ9QEwAg&dur=437

[dafi]

Looking forward to it!

 

And this topic is even something one can get a prize for :-)

http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipmsstockholm.se%2Fhome%2Fmanadens-modellbyggare-februari%2F

The winner was: 8. Jonas Dalberg, warship Sword in scale 1/100, 72 points

 

Daniel

Edited July 30, 2013 by dafi

[tarbrush]

hi Farbor,

This is going to be the coolest diorama!  I love your idea of the diorama in a box with lighting so the diorama is like a night light.  I am really excited about this project.  A fluyt would be awesome.

For painting, I think an airbrush would be the best way to achieve the effects of silt accumulation.  I recently got an Iwata Revolution airbrush and I love it, very easy to use.

 

ok, I will be sitting on the edge of my front row seat on this one!!

[Richard Bradfield]

Oh yeah, this is going to be fun to watch! Get going!

[captainbob]

I'm pulling up my chair.  Let the build begin.

 

Bob

[4whelr]

I'm pulling up my chair.  Let the build begin.

 

Bob

Farbror Fartyg,

So have I! This should be a very interesting build to follow. I very much look forward to it!

Eddie

[NAZGÛL]

Looking forwaed to see your build!

 

 

/Matti

[lamarvalley]

Another audience member has just signed on... let the build begin looking forward to this one... definitely will be different

[popeye the sailor]

sounds like a very imaginative build........I'll be watching! 

[usedtosail]

I will be enjoying this build as well. Looks like an interesting project.

[Farbror Fartyg]

I made a qucik ROV mock-up, to test things out a bit.

At one cm it's very tiny indeed ... 

 

See-through wood - a Nobel prize in the bag?

 

Metallic paint is the best chioce for making things opaque.

 

 

Dang! The looters got here before us ...

 

 

When working with LEDs and batteres, always remember your mantra: Ooohhhmmm, Ooohhhmmm ... 

[Paul Salomone]

Brilliant effect.

[NAZGÛL]

Nice!

 

/Matti

[Elroy]

Can someone please move over a little...I can't see properly, and keep your heads down you lot up front.

This sounds very interesting and I will be following this with interest. I doubt you will have any competition.

Is it just me? I have never heard of such a thing as an underwater diorama as you envisage, but it sounds fantastic.

Okay, I'll shut up if you hurry and get started.

Errol.

[Elroy]

Idea for the 'settling' sediment.

Would sprinkling some concrete powder into the water with the wreck temporarily in situ work? It is grey and will set underwater permanently and be introduced slowly and then you can set up the diorama at your leisure knowing that the silt won't move around during handling.

Just a thought.

Errol.

[Elroy]

My grammar suffered a little there in my excitement...sorry.

[Farbror Fartyg]

@Errol

 

Good idea!

 

 

Thinking about various ways of silting up the wreck, it's easy to wander into Borges territory:

 

You gradually make your attempt at replicating reality more and more complex, and finally it's so complex that it IS the reality you were trying to replicate.

[pompey2]

I'll be keeping a eye on your build as well.

problem is that all the good seats have gone, only rear circle left.

best of luck

[ndeconte]

very cool idea, looking forward to watching this one!

[Piet]

Hey, I'm joining in too!  Great idea and it holds special interest for me.  For many years now I wanted to make a painting of the wreck of the ship my father was killed on, Hr. Ms. Java.  She went down due to a Japanese torpedo hit during the battle of the Java Sea, Feb. 27, 1942.  She lays 70 meters down on the sea floor, it's dark and murky.  So, one of these days - - - - 

 

Cheers,

[vulcanbomber]

A really good idea, I am also jumping on the band wagon to follow your progress, I think you may need a large wagon to accommodate all us passengers!

[Per]

 

Thinking about various ways of silting up the wreck, it's easy to wander into Borges territory:

 

 

 

 

This will be fun to watch.

You could take a look at what model railroaders do, dust the wreck with the silt of your choice (if you can't find it outside somewhere, alternatives can be had by the bag from the MR shop), then fix the dust with a mist of diluted PVA glue that will be completely invisible when dry.

Rust, dust and gunk can be had as acrylic paint and pastel chalks used for highlights.

 

Per

Edited August 5, 2013 by Per

[mtaylor]

I think we're all going to be watching this one.   By the way, will you be adding potentiometer/rheostat to the lighting so you can dim them?  Or will the brightness be fixed?   I've found they need the adjustment depending on the ambient light.