mtaylor Posted December 20, 2021 Share #61 Posted December 20, 2021 Interesting stuff there, Alan. More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old. The problem is finding them. So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where. It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand. Egilman, Edwardkenway, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #62 Posted December 21, 2021 22 hours ago, mtaylor said: Interesting stuff there, Alan. More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old. The problem is finding them. So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where. It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand. Thanks Mark. The Sahara is a huge place too. The area around the mountain is a maze of gullies and canyons. I doubt they have ever been fully explored in detail. Stuff keeps turning up out there like the P40 found in 2012 in Egypt. That was sitting on rocky desert so not even buried. In ancient times the area around the mountain wasn't desert. The cave paintings show lions, giraffes and elephants so it was probably savannah like Botswana or Kenya maybe. The ancient Egyptians got ivory and gold from somewhere and a very old trade route is evident leading south towards the mountain. Curiously gold has been discovered (or rediscovered?) in the last ten years very close to the mountain. So maybe a city is buried there somewhere. Its an interesting environment. It fascinates me that you can pick up an expended AK47 cartridge sitting on the desert floor next to a piece of prehistoric pottery or a stone tool. Alan Egilman, Rik Thistle, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #63 Posted December 21, 2021 Back on topic today. Yesterday I was playing around to see if I could make convincing representation of the sand that gathers on surfaces not blown clear by travel. I made a mix of PVA glue and water which I painted onto the areas I thought sand would be found. Then I added a spoonful of the dust from sanding the ceramic bricks used in the Aedes Ars models which was sitting around. I tapped the surplus off and dusted off any remaining excess with a stiff paintbrush. I like the effect; its a bit more three dimensional than just using paint but I think its easy to get a bit too wild with it. The tarped load was placed properly in the load bed and then the wheels were added. I was excited to find all four touched the ground. I gave the whole model a coat of matte coat. The 1/8 inch square styrene rod arrived today and I started making the flimsies again. Hopefully these will be better than the first attempt. I like this model enough that I ordered the 1/35 scale version from Roden to see how that builds up. Thanks for looking in Alan Old Collingwood, EricWilliamMarshall, JohnB40 and 11 others 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 21, 2021 Share #64 Posted December 21, 2021 Great idea with the ground up ceramic for desert sand. The car looks very good.👍 Egilman, Old Collingwood, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #65 Posted December 21, 2021 Thank you very much Ken I need to a better job with the lighting for the photographs. I realise that some of the pictures make it look like I have used a green and sand camouflage Alan Edwardkenway, Canute, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 21, 2021 Share #66 Posted December 21, 2021 I love It Alan - really really nice. OC. Egilman, Canute, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 21, 2021 Share #67 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) On 12/18/2021 at 5:00 PM, king derelict said: I can't make up my mind whether I like the tarped load in the load bed. I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo. I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. Edited December 21, 2021 by lmagna Canute, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #68 Posted December 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: I love It Alan - really really nice. OC. Thank you OC. I really like this subject and the model is quite good. The 1/35 scale version just turned up and that does look very good. Alan Egilman, lmagna, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #69 Posted December 21, 2021 16 hours ago, lmagna said: I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo. I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. Thank you Lou. Yes, I was thinking that the lockers on the side of the truck bed would hold some supplies but ropes, personal kit etc might be under that tarp. Bed rolls if it was a multi-day patrol. Alan lmagna, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #70 Posted December 24, 2021 A tiny update. I am making the flimsies for the car. I took a length of 1/8 square styrene rod and rounded the edges slightly to make the individual cans more apparent. I cut four 5 mm pieces and glued them together. I created the appearance of the lids by pressing the tip of a hypodermic needle into teh tops. Its a little out of scale but it was the smallest size I have and its not in quite the right place but any closer to teh edge and it distorts the plastic. I think it will look okay under some dust. A plain top just leaves it as a box After priming with black primer I painted the strip with metal paint and gave it a black wash to delineate the individual cans better Next I will add some dust but first I had a diorama to finish - not a desert one this time I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year Alan Jack12477, lmagna, Landlubber Mike and 11 others 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #71 Posted December 24, 2021 The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama. Have a great holiday. popeye the sailor, Canute, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 24, 2021 Share #72 Posted December 24, 2021 Nice work on the tins and you "other" diorama, Alan. 👍😁 lmagna, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #73 Posted December 24, 2021 great job all around! there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish. you copied that well for the cans the cake came out 'sweet' as well lmagna, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #74 Posted December 24, 2021 17 hours ago, mtaylor said: The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama. Have a great holiday. Thank you very much Mark Witha third of a bottle of brandy in it; I'm hoping the edible diorama tastes good Happy Christmas Alan Egilman, lmagna, mtaylor and 6 others 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #75 Posted December 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Canute said: Nice work on the tins and you "other" diorama, Alan. 👍😁 Thank you Ken I'm looking forward to trying the edible diorama Happy Christmas Alan popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #76 Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, popeye the sailor said: great job all around! there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish. you copied that well for the cans the cake came out 'sweet' as well Thank you very much Popeye I look forward to tasting the cake Happy Christmas Alan lmagna, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #77 Posted December 24, 2021 The fuel cans were dulled a little and added to the back of the car. I added a bit more replica sand around the cans and I think this one is finished. The 200 error nailed one of the photos - funny how it picks on one image and even if it is edited, renamed reimported and it still kicks it out. Thank you for all the support, kind and helpful comments. I hope it has been interesting. I hope you all have a great Christmas Alan Jack12477, EricWilliamMarshall, Egilman and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #78 Posted December 24, 2021 Have a look at the last post in this topic. The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue. Canute, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #79 Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, mtaylor said: Have a look at the last post in this topic. The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue. Thanks Mark I read the thread. It will be interesting to see what is going on - though doubtless it will be unintelligible to me. popeye the sailor, Egilman, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted December 24, 2021 Share #80 Posted December 24, 2021 Great work 👍and a tasty diorama 😉 Egilman, popeye the sailor, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted December 25, 2021 Share #81 Posted December 25, 2021 Love the sand base nice work replicating the mostly rocky crust.... Really looks the part... Edwardkenway, Canute, Baker and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 26, 2021 Share #82 Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 4:14 PM, king derelict said: not a desert one this time Does that mean that it is of the dessert kind? Egilman, popeye the sailor, Canute and 5 others 7 1 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted December 26, 2021 Share #83 Posted December 26, 2021 Looks great Alan! Baker, lmagna, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #84 Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 6:15 PM, Backer said: Great work 👍and a tasty diorama 😉 Thanks Patrick I really enjoyed building the car - and helping to eat the cake Alan Egilman, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #85 Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 1:18 AM, Egilman said: Love the sand base nice work replicating the mostly rocky crust.... Really looks the part... Thank Egilman. That ceramic brick dust keeps coming in handy Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #86 Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 4:27 AM, lmagna said: Does that mean that it is of the dessert kind? A diorama you can enjoy with a glass of wine😄 Alan popeye the sailor, lmagna, Egilman and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #87 Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 1:17 PM, Landlubber Mike said: Looks great Alan! Thanks Mike This has been a lot of fun Alan popeye the sailor, Jack12477, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosthunter Posted January 7, 2022 Share #88 Posted January 7, 2022 Love the finished car but I would put some squadron or division markings on the sides somewhere. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share #89 Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghosthunter said: Love the finished car but I would put some squadron or division markings on the sides somewhere. Thanks for the kind comment and the input. So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust. Alan popeye the sailor, Jack12477, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted January 8, 2022 Share #90 Posted January 8, 2022 4 hours ago, king derelict said: So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust. Neither have I Alan, I suspect they didn't mark them for some reason probably cause they weren't used in mass formation so they really didn't need it... (most military vehicle markings were for unit identification on the battlefield.... Using the kit supplied markings would be a non-sequitur for an SDF vehicle.... Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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