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Now on to the sail, which I believe gives the junk boat its signature look.  The sail itself is red shirt cloth with a thread bolt rope attached to the edges with fabric glue.  For the battens, I put a bamboo skewer into the drill lathe and smoothed it down to a 1/32” diameter.

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Posted (edited)

The patrol boat (or scout ship depending on the reference source) is complete.  The mast is dry fitted for now and you will notice there is no hinge.  I'm going to try something different this time.  My plan is to secure the hull inside the bottle and then insert the mast with sail into the hull.  Since there are no stays, and the ship is small and will be so close to the mouth of the bottle, I think I can pull it off.  I've still got some thinkin and figurin to do on how to handle the small amount of rigging.  But lots of time to figure that out as this will be the last of the 3 ships to go in the bottle.

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Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted

Cute little bugger. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted (edited)

@Keith Black - you had asked earlier about Shiloh and his transition from bull to steer.  So in further research on this project, I discovered that Shiloh and the subject of my build, Zheng He, have something in common.  Zheng He, sadly, was captured as a prisoner of war when he was a youth and castrated (as was customary at the time).  But instead of a virtually painless band like Shiloh got, Zheng He lost his parts with a sword. 

 

Yet another reason why I am thankful to be living in modern times!      

Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted (edited)

I'm late to the log (again) - sorry Glen.  A very interesting subject you have chosen.  I'll follow along with delight.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited by BANYAN

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted
6 hours ago, BANYAN said:

I'm late to the log (again) - sorry Gen.  A very interesting subject you have chosen.  I'll follow along with delight.

Glad to have you looking in, Pat.  I always appreciate your insight.

Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, Glen McGuire said:

He lost his parts with a sword.

 Pretty delicate job with a sword, not something you'd want left to the village goof and have the countryside populated by a bunch of lads with the nickname "Stubby".

Edited by Keith Black

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted (edited)

I spent time over the past week or so trying to figure out what to do for the middle ship of my mini treasure fleet.  With 250-300 ships in the original fleet, I gotta believe there was a lot of variation in not only size but shape and characteristics.  Which means I’ve got a lot of latitude in deciding what the ship #2 will look like.  I want all 3 ships to be unique because they served different purposes in the fleet, but still have some commonality so they look like they belong together.  At this point, I'm thinking the commonality will likely be the color scheme of the boat and color of the sails.


As you can tell, I’m kind of making this up as I go.  So after looking once again at a variety of ancient junk ship illustrations, I’ve decided on another composite build for ship #2 that uses features from several different ships.  The main shape/profile will follow the one on the below left.  I like the prominent quarter deck and forecastle plus the unique half-pipe structures on each.  However, I want a sharper curve in the bulwark like the one in the 2nd picture as this seems to be a common attribute of many ancient junk ships.  Last, I’m gonna try for 4 masts like the boat on the right with sails of a similar shape to my small patrol boat.  That’s the plan anyway!! 
 

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Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted
Posted

Good progress on the hull for ship #2.  I pretty much got the profile and bulwark curvature I was hoping for.

 

My original plan was to put the forward-most mast on the forecastle, but there's just not enough room for it and one of those half-pipe structures from the picture above.  So I'm gonna go with 3 masts on the main deck and 1 on the quarter deck just in front of the half-pipe thing there.

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Posted

 Glen, ship #2 is a Zhenger. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted

Looking good Glen, this will make a nice diorama within a bottle - a real 'hum Zhenger' as you say ;)

 

cheers

 

Pat.

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted (edited)

On to the deck fittings.  Like ship #1, there's not a lot happening on top.  I'm going with the 2 half-pipe structures on the forecastle and quarter deck as mentioned above.  Also, I'm adding a narrow shelter in the middle of the main deck.  And then ladders to reach the forecastle and quarter deck.

 

In previous builds, I made chumpy little ladders by just drawing horizontal lines (for steps) on a narrow strip of wood.  I tried to do a little better this time by making ladders with actual poles and rungs.  The ladder poles are .15" music wire and the steps are the inside strands of flexible 12 gauge copper wire.   

 

In the 3rd pic below, everything is dry-fitted.  I'll secure them after I figure out what I'm doing with the 4 masts.  I have not decided yet if I'm going to hinge them or try to install inside the bottle.  

 

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Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted

Amazing details,. Glen.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

 The ladders turned out looking great, all of  the second ship looks convincing. Nice job, Glen.  

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted

That's really great work Glen, nice job!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

Posted

Amazing accomplishment yesterday - I managed to drill about a hundred holes with my #80 drill bit without breaking it!  Normally I break one about every 5 tries.  WOOHOO!  Afterwards, it took an adult beverage or two to uncross my eyes from all that tiny drilling, but then it was time to spend a few hours up close and personal with the drill lathe and a pile of bamboo skewers to make the masts and sail battens. 

 

The 1st picture kinda shows the stages of how the battens for the sails are made.  I cut the skewers into lengths that will cover 2 battens, drill 4 holes in each for the rigging (#80 bit), slap it into the drill lathe, sand it down to a little bit less than 1/32", and cut it into the 2 pieces.  Rinse and repeat.       

 

The masts are dry-fitted in the 2nd picture.

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Posted

That’s quite a feat on the #80 drill bit Glen - no wonder you needed the adult beverages! Even greater feat to achieve the batten making after said adult beverages! 😊

 

Looking good.

Posted

 Those are really neat, Glen. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted

Impressive little fleet you are doing.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

Thank you for the comments and the likes.  I’m pretty happy with how these first two turned out.  But they were definitely just a warm up.  Time now for the main event which is the main treasure ship.  


A site called The Model Shipyard has a finished version of the main treasure ship for sale.  I've attached a few of their pictures below.  It looks like a beautiful piece of work.  The pictures also make it clear that the ship is going to be a doozy to try and replicate for this bottle project.  

      
Seriously, look at the dang thing.  It’s like a floating farm!  The quarter deck has plowed furrows with row crops growing.  The main deck has various animal corrals (and before @Keith Black asks, there’s probably a refrigerated hold below where the penguins hang out).  On top of all that, there’s 9 masts to deal with.  OMG, what was I thinking!    😵
 

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Edited by Glen McGuire
Posted

If there's not a corral for a miniature Shiloh incorporated on the main deck I'm gonna be highly disappointed. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

If there's not a corral for a miniature Shiloh incorporated on the main deck I'm gonna be highly disappointed. 

OK Keith, you got me on that one.  Some how, some way, there's definitely gonna be a mini-Shiloh on the deck!

Posted

No penguin, no polar bear, third times a charm.  :D

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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