king derelict Posted January 13, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 13, 2023 Well, possibly an ill judged foray into something different. This is the Aedes Ars kit to build the Castle Loarre in Spain out of individual ceramic blocks. All 8600 of them. I built the Towers of Rochelle by the same kit manufacturer a while ago and although there were some caveats about the scale of some elements it looked decent when I finished it. A great friend of mine sent me this kit (and paid postage all the way from Spain) a couple of years ago and I am ashamed to say it has languished. I found I got bogged down in the Rochelle build. In that kit there is a large multi-curved tower that used about 80 blocks per tier and it seemed like in spite of the hours working on it, it felt like it was going nowhere, I'm hoping that this one might go better having a widen array of smaller elements but 2000 more blocks. I suspect there will be regular breaks to play with something less demanding. Inside the box, plans and general guides. Some basic landscape elements which will be ditched in favour of the Woodlands Scenics investment for the howitzer diorama. Lots and Lots of blocks The kit is built on a printed cardboard base which I decided to glue to a piece of 3/4 plywood. The finished kit is going to be heavy and a piece of cardboard as a base is not going to do it. The structures are created by building up the walls against card formers. These are die cut and just need easing out of the frames The kit provides lengths of scored card strips to create tabs to glue the formers together and to the base. The kit provides two bottles of glue which is unlikely to be enough. I switch to Weldbond when it runs out. A syringe is an efficient way to dispense the glue The curved sections of walls and towers require the formers to be curved. ts easy to crease and ditort the card but using the PE rollers produced decent results A variety of heavy things are used to hold the sections down until the glue sets up. And the first section of wall formers are up This may get very boring so I will only update at intervals when there is discernable progress. I'm hoping that with a bit of community spirit I can complete this without getting overburdened. I hope you enjoy watching it come together. There is one outstanding question - where will the completed model go. The base is 26 inches by 22 inches. Oh dear! Thanks for looking in Alan thibaultron, Landlubber Mike, Baker and 18 others 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted January 13, 2023 Share #2 Posted January 13, 2023 I'm in ! mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted January 13, 2023 Share #3 Posted January 13, 2023 An intriguing build. I'm in, Alan. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted January 13, 2023 Share #4 Posted January 13, 2023 I've never seen one of these kits. Now I want to see what happens next. Are the individual pieces actually ceramic? Edwardkenway, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 13, 2023 Share #5 Posted January 13, 2023 How could I not follow this - I have all my comfy things to the ready - I can feel a seige coming on........ OC. Canute, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted January 13, 2023 Share #6 Posted January 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, bruce d said: I've never seen one of these kits. Now I want to see what happens next. Are the individual pieces actually ceramic? See Medieval Fortified Village by Ekis Old Collingwood, mtaylor, king derelict and 4 others 5 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 13, 2023 Share #7 Posted January 13, 2023 Thought you might find this interesting Alan - http://castillodeloarre.es/en/the-castle/ OC. Canute, bruce d, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted January 13, 2023 Share #8 Posted January 13, 2023 Oh I'm definitely down for this.... And I promise I won't fire any of my siege guns during the building, not even in practice... (chuckle, gotta build them first) Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted January 13, 2023 Share #9 Posted January 13, 2023 Well this is something new to me, will watch with interest. I’m lucky that I live in a town with a Castle on a cliff, let me know if you need any field trips to photograph details! 🤣 Jack12477, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted January 13, 2023 Share #10 Posted January 13, 2023 Quite a different kit... I will be watching this with interest, Allan. Yves AJohnson, Edwardkenway, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 14, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 14, 2023 Castle builds are rare around here, but I'm in on following this. Edwardkenway, Canute, AJohnson and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted January 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Jack12477 said: I'm in ! Glad to have you Jack. Settle in for a long haul. Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted January 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Canute said: An intriguing build. I'm in, Alan. Thank you Ken. I'll try to make it interesting Alan Edwardkenway, mtaylor, AJohnson and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted January 14, 2023 23 hours ago, bruce d said: I've never seen one of these kits. Now I want to see what happens next. Are the individual pieces actually ceramic? Hi Bruce The blocks are called ceramic but are really softer and easy to file, cut and sand. Maybe more of a reconstituted stone. Alan Canute, CDW, Old Collingwood and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted January 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: How could I not follow this - I have all my comfy things to the ready - I can feel a seige coming on........ OC. Thank you OC. I hope you have pillows, snacks and something warming to drink Alan Canute, AJohnson, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted January 14, 2023 20 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Thought you might find this interesting Alan - http://castillodeloarre.es/en/the-castle/ OC. Thank you very much OC. That is really very handy. The instructions are more of a guide and do not show images all the way round the model. The formers at the one edge of the outer wall suggest that the brickwork only covers the upper section of the wall I'm guessing that the hillside rises there to join the inner walls and structures but there are no pictures of that side of the model. It may become more apparent as the other structures are added but I will be looking at a lot of pictures of the real thing too Thanks again Alan Jack12477, Egilman, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted January 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Egilman said: Oh I'm definitely down for this.... And I promise I won't fire any of my siege guns during the building, not even in practice... (chuckle, gotta build them first) Great to have you EG. Well, that's an incentive to get the walls up as soon as possible!.I think you will have plenty of time to build a siege train Alan Canute, Old Collingwood, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #18 Posted January 14, 2023 10 hours ago, AJohnson said: Well this is something new to me, will watch with interest. I’m lucky that I live in a town with a Castle on a cliff, let me know if you need any field trips to photograph details! 🤣 Thank you for joining Andrew. This sometimes gets a bit like endless cannon rigging but the end results are nice and its enjoyable once you get in a groove. You live in a beautiful place Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, AJohnson and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #19 Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, yvesvidal said: Quite a different kit... I will be watching this with interest, Allan. Yves Thanks Yves. I will try to work a little quicker than I did on the corvette. Alan Jack12477, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 14, 2023 Share #20 Posted January 14, 2023 Would you have the flexibility to make it diifferent scales? I know you said its 1/200 scale. OC. AJohnson, Edwardkenway, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #21 Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, mtaylor said: Castle builds are rare around here, but I'm in on following this. Thank you Mark These builds can be a bit of a grind and its easy to get discouraged. There are few builds out on the internet full stop, but Aedes Ars seem to be flourishing and have been increasing their range of models. Some very impressive models in their catalogue. They are a bit of an oddity in some ways. The blocks are not scale for a lot of the overall model scales and windows and doors are often out of scale because of the limitations of the block sizes. Having said that the magnificent work done by @Ekis shows what can be done Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, Jack12477 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 14, 2023 Share #22 Posted January 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, king derelict said: Thank you very much OC. That is really very handy. The instructions are more of a guide and do not show images all the way round the model. The formers at the one edge of the outer wall suggest that the brickwork only covers the upper section of the wall I'm guessing that the hillside rises there to join the inner walls and structures but there are no pictures of that side of the model. It may become more apparent as the other structures are added but I will be looking at a lot of pictures of the real thing too Thanks again Alan So pleased I could help Alan. OC. Jack12477, AJohnson, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share #23 Posted January 14, 2023 The formers for the outer walls were completed So now the brickwork begins> this is probably the first hundred - only 8500 to go. The flat and right angled sections of wall should go fairly quickly but the circular towers will need each block to be filed to shaped and fitted. The photo shows a couple of dodgy blocks on the top tier at left which have been removed and refitted properly. I do need some better lights for working on the work bench in the garage so off to Amazon next. Thank you all for looking in and for supporting this build Alan bruce d, GrandpaPhil, FriedClams and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 14, 2023 Share #24 Posted January 14, 2023 Excellent start Alan, this has all the potential to be a fascinating build into a real star item - loving it mate. OC. Egilman, Canute, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted January 14, 2023 Share #25 Posted January 14, 2023 I'm in, hammock slung and settling in for the long haul. Nice start, will you sand it lightly when built, as that will hide minor imperfections in the stones. mtaylor, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 14, 2023 Share #26 Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, king derelict said: Thank you very much OC. That is really very handy. The instructions are more of a guide and do not show images all the way round the model. The formers at the one edge of the outer wall suggest that the brickwork only covers the upper section of the wall I'm guessing that the hillside rises there to join the inner walls and structures but there are no pictures of that side of the model. It may become more apparent as the other structures are added but I will be looking at a lot of pictures of the real thing too Thanks again Alan I think they leave it up to the builder how its done - build up the stones to where the earth works(grass) would be or build up the earth works first and assemble the stone blocks up to it - might be best to do the stones first and make the earth works just cover them as you want. OC. AJohnson, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share #27 Posted January 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Excellent start Alan, this has all the potential to be a fascinating build into a real star item - loving it mate. OC. Thanks a lot OC. A long haul ahead but its fun and they are an interesting diversion. Alan Egilman, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share #28 Posted January 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: I'm in, hammock slung and settling in for the long haul. Nice start, will you sand it lightly when built, as that will hide minor imperfections in the stones. Thanks for hanging around for this one Edward. Yes, once a section is finished it will get a pretty vigorous sanding. That will smooth the walls, clean up the corners and make the round towers circular. The blocks sand easily and there is a lot of depth to go at with these 5mm blocks. If there are still gaps a mix of diluted white glue and the sanding dust will sort out most problems. The last resort is some artfully placed ivy The blocks are somewhat irregular and the guide recommends squaring up each block. Given that there are 8600 blocks and I have a limited ability to true up anything I use them as is. I find that selecting adjacent blocks and rotating them to get the best fit gives a good result generally. I do sand each layer to make sure the following layer doesn't start to slope or meet steps between the blocks. Alan Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share #29 Posted January 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: I think they leave it up to the builder how its done - build up the stones to where the earth works(grass) would be or build up the earth works first and assemble the stone blocks up to it - might be best to do the stones first and make the earth works just cover them as you want. OC. Thank you OC. I think I will add the blocks over the area that is indicated and then add the next section of teh castle and see what the terrain is like. I'm thinking that plaster bandage over foam may be a good way to set the basic shapes of the hills and cliffs. The railroad and scenery guys like @Jack12477 and @Canute may know if you can still get the stuff or have a better idea Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share #30 Posted January 15, 2023 The wall building continues a little at a time with most of the day spent doing other things (pressure washing the patio). The blockwork lends itself to being picked up for half an hour - adding a few bricks here and there or sanding one of the awkward ones to fit. It all adds to the progress. Its probably worth pointing out that this is a double wall so once I reach the end of the formers i have to start all over again on the other side of the formers. Its not a weekend project 😎 Thanks for all the support, comments and likes Alan Egilman, AJohnson, Edwardkenway and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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