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Posted

McMaster is great.  Micro Mark can also provide any number of a specific size bit.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Quick aside and then back to the build.  Yes, suppliers web addy's can be posted.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

I have now completed one side of the inner bulwark planking. To begin with, I added some filler pieces to the edge of the false deck to cover up the sizing errors. I used material from the laser cut sheet from which the deck had come. After that, I cut, and bent as necessary, boxwood planks for the spirketting below the gun ports and installed them. Following that, I made up three plank units of boxwood to fit between the gun ports for the quickwork and installed them. Lastly, I did the boxwood planks for the waist, forecastle and quarterdeck clamps. Planking of the forecastle and quarterdeck bulwarks will be left until the framing for those decks is installed later.

 

All of the planking has caulking simulated with pencil on one edge and one end of each plank. I did not do any treenailing since I expect to plank this side of the upper decks and such work will be totally invisible. The caulking was done out of force of habit, although it too will not be seen. I finished the work with a coat of Wipe-on Poly.

 

I'm now starting on the other side, which will be at least partly visible after the upper deck framing and planking.

 

Bob

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Posted

Very neat work.  Are you planning on painting the inside of the bulwarks or staying natural?

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted
Posted

Thanks, Bob.  I don't know how others feel about that but I like the thought.  You've got the skills to pull it off.  I'm going to keep it in mind.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

I just had a go round w/ME.,  I ordered a replacement board with the stern frames on it, as I broke two getting them out.  At first I was told they had stopped shipping replacement parts for the model.  But when I told Tom Snow that I was sure that particular board was OK, he relented, after apparently talking to a supervisor.  However, sometime next week at the earliest.  He claimed to be unaware of the problems with the kit.

 

Ah well, continue someplace else.

Posted

Seriously,Terry,  stop now unless you are prepared to basically scratch build the model without accurate scale plans to work from. That's where I am. The kit's errors just feed on themselves as you go forward

 

Bob

Posted

well I'm sure you're right, but I'd like to see if I can get through the GP's and then see about planking.

 

However, I'm surprised that ME hasn't recalled all the kits and offered us either a refund or a credit toward future purchases.  Yours look really good, but I'm not in your league, but have enjoyed using your pics as a guide.

 

I've got another kit to do, so perhaps I'll wait and see what they do.    Tearing up what I've done so far doesn't seem practical either.  I was about to correct the BHs I can see aren't right, before I started the GPs.

 

Thanks for the advise.  I'm up in Stuart, FL.

 

Terry

Posted

Terry

If Stuart is near enough drive over to Hollywood and talk with Eric Snow (his name is Eric not tom) about the issues with the kit.  I've always found him to be a good listener and tries to be as helpful as possible.  May not hurt to show him so of the comments being made about the kit.  I would hope he would see it as a way to generate some good PR.  Since Frank retired I guess the parts dept. isn't as responsive as it was under him.

Tom

Posted

I think Model Expo and Sam, the kit's designer are well aware of the problems with the Essex kit and are working hard on doing fixes. Sam has said he hopes to have something early next year. They are saying that they will supply customers with the new and corrected parts. Personally, I'd rather have the corrections over a refund because I really want to build an Essex and I do not want to return the kit. If no corrections are coming, which doesn't seem to be the case, I'll keep the kit and make do with what I have.

Bill M.

Posted

Hi Bob:

 

Glad to hear you're leaving the inboard bulwarks natural - they look great and it would be a shame to cover up your beautiful work! Too bad also to hear about the continued issues with the kit.....but it seems you've been able to channel your frustrations into a really fine build

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

Posted

Well - at this stage there's no turning back - besides it's a good friend who, after falling into the crocodile pit, is kind enough to put some signs up around it - in any case, I'm sure it's not for fear of competition! 

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

Posted (edited)

Thanks, Hamilton. I really had been hoping for others to do the build at the same time so that we could help push each other along. Having said that, Terry I think you made the right choice. Good luck with the Emma.

 

The bulwark planking on the port side is now done. Everything was done the same as on the other side. As usual, having done it once made the second effort go a little quicker and easier, though I have to admit that knowing that more of it would remain visible probably made me a bit more careful this time.

 

My plan is to now do the stern windows and finish the outer stern planking, and then do the inner stern planking and cabinetry. That will be followed by the gun deck planking. 

 

Bob

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Posted

Hi Bob, I always enjoy your updates and that’s a very nice planking job. It is a shame

you are going at it alone but then your log will be a great reference for all who will

build her once the “issues” are corrected. :) 

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

Posted

Don't rush Sailor.  Plastic is an art form all to itself.  As mtaylor always says, 'the wood is patient'.

 

Bob-  really sorry I didn't join you on Essex but, as it turns out, you're the perfect person to get through this problematic edition.  You're doing her proud and, with Sam's rework, we should see a really fine kit down the road.  Always a pleasure admiring your work.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Thanks guys for the nice comments and the likes. I'm looking forward to the next couple of items of work from the relative monotony of plank, plank, plank.

 

Bob

Posted (edited)

I've done the stern windows and the inner stern planking around the windows. Since I wanted to have something that would look right on both the inside and outside and since the kit provided 10 laser cut frames for the 5 windows, I decided to do something a little different. I decided to build up window "sandwiches", consisting of 2 frames with a piece of clear plastic between them (I'm sure that I've seen this done somewhere on MSW). With some thickness sanding, this created a perfect fit for the depth of the stern frames.

 

As I had indicated early in this log, the width of the stern frames was excessive and this required some careful filing to open the spaces between the frames to get the window frames to fit. The window frames were painted white after they were sanded to fit. I then glued in the outside window frames, placed the the clear plastic behind them and then glued in the inside frames. This was all going well until somehow I managed to have an inside frame jump out of my grasp and become a permanent resident of the ship's hold. As a result, I had to make a replacement from strip wood. Thankfully, it's on the side that will be covered by deck planking and not visible.

 

After the windows were installed, I chose to do the planking around them on the inside. This was done with boxwood, finished with Wipe-on Poly. I've started on the Great Cabin cabinetry. That and the exterior planking around the windows will be the next update.

 

Bob

 

 

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Posted

Bob,

 

Really nice touch on the windows. I lost count of how many of those little buggers I broke durring my build...........

 

Sam

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT 

 

 

 

Posted

I'm really impressed with those windows.  Your craftsmanship is outstanding.  Gives me something to strive after.

Great work.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

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                  Nautical Research Guild

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