Guest Tim I. Posted February 8, 2015 #1261 Posted February 8, 2015 Bob, Well done. They look perfect. - Tim
rafine Posted February 8, 2015 Author #1262 Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks so much Grant, Nils and Tim for the nice comments and also to the "likes". Bob Mirabell61 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Sjors Posted February 8, 2015 #1263 Posted February 8, 2015 Very good work at those crowsfeet Bob !! Good example for me when I have to do it...... Sjors Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
augie Posted February 8, 2015 #1264 Posted February 8, 2015 I'll be checking back here as well. Nice job! Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
CaptainSteve Posted February 8, 2015 #1265 Posted February 8, 2015 They may be a PITA to install, Bob, but they really bring your ship to life !!! CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
rafine Posted February 9, 2015 Author #1266 Posted February 9, 2015 Thanks so much Sjors, Augie and Captain Steve and the "likes". Always appreciated. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mobbsie Posted February 9, 2015 #1267 Posted February 9, 2015 Great job Bob, the Crows Feet are awkward but when done correctly look fantastic. You've done yours correctly. Be Good mobbsie mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
rafine Posted February 9, 2015 Author #1268 Posted February 9, 2015 Thanks so much Mobbsie for the very generous comment and thanks also to the "likes". Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Martin W Posted February 11, 2015 #1269 Posted February 11, 2015 Love the crowsfeet, Bob. Did you set up a jig for the euphroes? They look nice and regular in the spacing of the holes. Cheers, Martin Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel
rafine Posted February 11, 2015 Author #1270 Posted February 11, 2015 Thanks so much John and Martin and the "likes". No jig Martin. As I've said before, I'm the definition of low tech. I drew a line, made some dots and hoped that I drilled on the dots. Bob Ponto, Martin W, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Trussben Posted February 11, 2015 #1271 Posted February 11, 2015 So great work here Bob, crows feet look very good indeed. Ben Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. Completed builds: HMS Winchelsea. ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat. QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
rafine Posted February 12, 2015 Author #1272 Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks so much Ben and the "likes". Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted February 12, 2015 Author #1273 Posted February 12, 2015 Work on the topmast rigging is underway, with the mizzen completed. This involved doing the burton pendants, the shrouds with their sheer poles, futtock staves and ratlines, the backstays and the stay. I had to do the ratlines right after the shrouds because putting the backstays in place would have made it very difficult to to do the ratlines. The mouse on the stay is simulated with a small bead. The lower end of the stay is attached to an eyebolt in the main top with thimbles and a lanyard. I'm now working on the main topmast rigging. Bob Dubz, egkb, CaptainSteve and 20 others 23 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
augie Posted February 12, 2015 #1274 Posted February 12, 2015 Nice idea on the mouse. Well done all around. CaptainSteve 1 Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Sjors Posted February 12, 2015 #1275 Posted February 12, 2015 Let me see if I can found something..... Yep, on picture 2....I see a little dust ! So I know that you have done it by your self Bob !!! Great work ! Sjors Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
rafine Posted February 12, 2015 Author #1276 Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks so much Augie, Sjors and all of the "likes". I truly appreciate your continuing interest. You're certainly right about that dust Sjors. Almost time for the soft brush and the vacuum. Bob Sjors 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Jimz66 Posted February 13, 2015 #1277 Posted February 13, 2015 Looking good Bob. Keep er going. Current/But Not immediate Build Logs I am still gathering the tools I need but starting preliminary work. Nothing to show just yet. Fair American Armed Virginia Sloop.
Gahm Posted February 13, 2015 #1278 Posted February 13, 2015 You are really a master of rigging! Thomas Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
rafine Posted February 13, 2015 Author #1279 Posted February 13, 2015 Thanks so much Jim, Thomas and the"likes". I don't know about being a master, Thomas, but I do enjoy doing the rigging. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
cookster Posted February 13, 2015 #1280 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) All I can say is Damn Bob, this is really nice!!! One of my favorite MSW builds for sure. You guys who know how to rig sure make me jealous... Edited February 13, 2015 by cookster mobbsie 1 Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy
rafine Posted February 14, 2015 Author #1281 Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks so much Wes for the kind words. I have no doubt, based on the precision of your work, that you will "know how to rig" when you get there. Bob cookster 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted February 17, 2015 Author #1282 Posted February 17, 2015 Work on the main topmast rigging has now been completed. This included the shrouds and their sheer poles, futtock staves and ratlines, the backstays, the stay and preventer stay and the middle staysail stay. I also added a thimble seized to the masthead as a lead for the mizzen topgallant stay and cheek blocks to the masthead, one of which is used by the middle staysail stay, which then leads down to a tackle in the main top. The stay and preventer stay lead through blocks on the fore masthead and end in tackles at the base of the foremast. these tackles have long tackle blocks, for which I had obtained a fiddle block kit from Syren. After a couple of tries, I wasn't happy with the result, and ended up making my own from 2 sizes of single blocks. One other thing worthy of some note for those using Syren rigging line. Living in South Florida, most of the time we have air conditioning going, and only very rarely do we ever turn heat on. This past week or two, we had a cold spell (for us ), and turned the heat on a couple of times. The result was thet the rigging line in place on the model relaxed considerably. What was interesting, was that the actual temperature in the house was no higher than it normally would be with air conditioning on. When the heat was turned off, the rigging lines returned to their taut condition after a couple of hours. I can't explain why this happens, but I would say that the line is quite sensitive to environmental changes. I'm now working on the fore topmast rigging. Bob Martin W and mtaylor 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted February 17, 2015 Author #1283 Posted February 17, 2015 Work on the main topmast rigging has now been completed. This included the shrouds and their sheer poles, futtock staves and ratlines, the backstays, the stay and preventer stay and the middle staysail stay. I also added a thimble seized to the masthead as a lead for the mizzen topgallant stay and cheek blocks to the masthead, one of which is used by the middle staysail stay, which then leads down to a tackle in the main top. The stay and preventer stay lead through blocks on the fore masthead and end in tackles at the base of the foremast. these tackles have long tackle blocks, for which I had obtained a fiddle block kit from Syren. After a couple of tries, I wasn't happy with the result, and ended up making my own from 2 sizes of single blocks. One other thing worthy of some note for those using Syren rigging line. Living in South Florida, most of the time we have air conditioning going, and only very rarely do we ever turn heat on. This past week or two, we had a cold spell (for us ), and turned the heat on a couple of times. The result was thet the rigging line in place on the model relaxed considerably. What was interesting, was that the actual temperature in the house was no higher than it normally would be with air conditioning on. When the heat was turned off, the rigging lines returned to their taut condition after a couple of hours. I can't explain why this happens, but I would say that the line is quite sensitive to environmental changes. I'm now working on the fore topmast rigging. Bob MarisStella.hr, Leo-zd, CaptainSteve and 16 others 19 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mobbsie Posted February 17, 2015 #1285 Posted February 17, 2015 You have some great work going on here Bob, beautiful rigging mate. With regard to your slack ropes, I'm sure the rope reacts to humidity, with the heating on the humidity grows and the resulting moisture is taken up by the ropes, when the air conditioning is on this sucks out the moisture and the humidity drops. That's my theory anyway. Keep up this fantastic work and I for one look forward to further updates. Be Good mobbsie KenW 1 mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
Martin W Posted February 17, 2015 #1286 Posted February 17, 2015 Beautiful rigging, Bob, the black accentuates the sharpness of your work. I'll second Mobbsie's theory -- here in Oklahoma we use the AC full blast all summer (roughly 10 months), and the heat in the winter, and I watch my rigging go through the same process. The trick is to rig only during the AC season, to avoid bending spars or masts! But that also tells you what's happening with the wood. Cheers, Martin Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel
augie Posted February 17, 2015 #1287 Posted February 17, 2015 Nice, precise work , Bob. I think we'll all agree that the tautness of our rigging will vary with ambient conditions.....particularly humidity. And it will effect each of us differently depending on the local conditions. I'm pretty sure that once the model is put in a good case, it is somewhat protected from wild changes that can sometimes occur in certain areas. Be interesting to hear from John (Jim Lad) on this owing to his experience in the museum. KenW 1 Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Sjors Posted February 17, 2015 #1288 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm repeating myself......NICE !!!!!! Feels a little bit like tying ratlines.......over and over again NICE, NICE ,NICE ! Sjors Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
rafine Posted February 17, 2015 Author #1289 Posted February 17, 2015 Thanks so much Tim, Mobbsie, Martin, Augie, Sjors and the "likes". The kind words are greatly appreciated. With regard to the rigging line, I have no doubt that you're right about the humidity caused by the heat, but I think that the cotton content of this line has an effect as well. Linen and synthetic line that I've used in the past haven't reacted in this way, or at least not so noticeably. I just passed this on as a caution to future users. BTW, the line is attractive and easy to work with. Bob augie and Martin W 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted February 23, 2015 Author #1290 Posted February 23, 2015 This will update both my progress and the state of the previously done rigging. Just as I was about to become suicidal over the possible need for major redoing of the rigging, the weather warmed up considerably and the heat went off ( hopefully for this year ). Although the lines didn't quite tighten up to where they had been, it has been sufficient to bring me back from the brink. Now on to more pleasant matters. I've done the fore topmast rigging. This involved the burton pendants, shrouds and ratlines, backstays, stay and preventer stay and jib stay. In order to do the jib stay, I had to make and mount the jib boom. After mounting the jib boom, I added the heel lashing and then did the bowsprit horses and netting. The jib stay also required that cheek blocks be added to the masthead. Finally, I seized a lead block for the main topgallant stay to the masthead. Two things of some note: the stay and preventer stay pass through the sheaves in the bees and then set up with thimbles and lanyards hooked to the bows; the jib stay leads through the cheek block and then sets up with a tackle hooked to the fore channel. I'm just beginning work on the topgallant/royal mast assemblies and the flying jib boom, and will then do their rigging. Bob Martin W, Sjors, Remcohe and 22 others 25 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
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