kiwiron Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share #361 Posted October 23, 2015 Thanks Dave,you will do fine you've done a fantastic job already,take your time and only think about one thread at a time. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share #362 Posted October 24, 2015 Good progress today,tighten up the deadeyes tomorrow. UpstateNY, riverboat, cristikc and 12 others 15 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted October 25, 2015 Share #363 Posted October 25, 2015 Beautiful !! Ron......... When I first clicked on to your last post I thought it was a picture of the replica ship....... Very nice work indeed!!! Frank kiwiron and maggsl_01 2 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share #364 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks a lot Frank,ha ha.Just trying to sort out a plan for the carthapins now. riverboat 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share #365 Posted October 25, 2015 Next job is the futtock shrounds then,ratlines.Has anyone got suggestions for ratline spacing,i was thinking 10mm between them might be o.k.Going with Pat's option 3 diagram for the layout.thanks.ron. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 25, 2015 Share #366 Posted October 25, 2015 Hi Ron, I went with 13" actual spacing. Not sure of your scale, but you should be able to sort that - my simple formula is 13 x 25.4 = about 330mm (330.2 actually) then divide by the scale; in my case 1:60 which results in a 5.5mm spacing. 10mm seems to be a bit large unless you are building at a much different scale? cheers Pat kiwiron 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share #367 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks a lot Pat.Mine is 1:54 so i'm thinking 6 or 7mm now. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 26, 2015 Share #368 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Ron, there are a couple of free graph paper apps on line (just Google) that allow you to specify spacing (Major and minor units) and set the associated line weights. I can't recal the one I used at the moment but should be easily found. I simple printed off a couple of A4 sheets then uses these as my background template by using hair clips to temp pin the m to the shrouds. You can see what I mean towards the latter posts in my log. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/400-hmb-endeavour-by-banyan-al-160-circa-1768/page-12 cheers Pat Edited October 26, 2015 by BANYAN kiwiron and maggsl_01 2 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share #369 Posted October 26, 2015 printfreegraphpaper.com is the one I found,thanks a lot Pat.I'll use the quarter inch size that gives me 6mm spacing which is perfect. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsl_01 Posted October 26, 2015 Share #370 Posted October 26, 2015 Hi Ron, different sources say that the distance between two ratlines was about 40 cm with a certain variance (some say it was more than 50 cm esp with spanish or german ships). So our Occres should have about 7.5mm/ 8mm for the ratlines. In my opinion it is also important to have a good appearance so I think about 1 cm. Shrouds and ratlines then make almost a quadratic "field" But this is of course an individual point of view. I am looking forward to see your progress... BTW what do you think about a Change in the order: Would it be usefull to wait with the ratlines until the Yards and the running rigging for the sails are fixed? Perhaps one can work easier with no ratlines... don't know yet... Cheerio Max kiwiron 1 Quote Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted October 26, 2015 Share #371 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Hi Ron This Occre model is the same as the one I am building, and I am positive that the scale is 1:51, and Pat is right royal navy ratlines were usually 13 inches apart. So the spacing should be 13 x 2.54 = 330mm divided by scale (51) equals 6.5mm Re the catharpins, I don't know how fussy you want to be but I served mine all over, but the important thing is to get them all exactly the same length so that they all pull equally tight when the topmast shrouds via the futtock shrouds put tension on them by wanting to spread the lower shrouds. I made the catharpins with an eye at each end then tied them to the futtock staves with thin cotton. Cheers Steve Edited October 26, 2015 by shipaholic kiwiron 1 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share #372 Posted October 26, 2015 Thanks for your advice Pat,Max and Steve.I haven't looked ahead to the sails yet.Thats a good way to do the catharpins,i'll see how mine go when I fix the futtock shrouds on. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share #373 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) I settled on 7mm spacing for the ratlines,i have enjoyed doing them so far.Onto the port side now. Edited November 1, 2015 by kiwiron maggsl_01, BANYAN, GuntherMT and 9 others 12 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted November 1, 2015 Share #374 Posted November 1, 2015 They look good Ron... Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J T Lombard Posted November 1, 2015 Share #375 Posted November 1, 2015 Ron: I'm new to this forum & just found your build log. What a fabulous job you have done. You should be extremely proud of your work. I noticed earlier in your build, when you were just beginning your second planking that some of your thumbnail pictures did not appear. Do you know what happened & did you happen to save those pictures that you could possibly re-post. best regards J Lombard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share #376 Posted November 1, 2015 Thanks Frank and J Lombard and for all the likes.A while ago a lot of peoples photos didn't appear or got wiped out.I managed to add them now using the edit feature,i'll go back and add the other missing ones sometime.Page 6 is the second planking,just give the second planking a very light sanding as they are very thin.Post a build log and you can get great advice on you build.I spend more time looking at others Endeavours than working on mine.ron. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share #377 Posted November 2, 2015 Lower ratlines done.Stays or upper shrouds next, who knows.I don't want to attach the bowsprit yet it got in the way a lot on my last one. DaveRow, maggsl_01, UpstateNY and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted November 2, 2015 Share #378 Posted November 2, 2015 Bet you're glad that's over DaveRow and kiwiron 2 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share #379 Posted November 3, 2015 Hi Greg,By the last one the novelty had worn off.Just the topmast rats etc to go after more deadeyes arrive. DaveRow 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted November 3, 2015 Share #380 Posted November 3, 2015 Good job Ron, still doing mine; port side completed today (lower and upper) - now for the other side. cheers Pat kiwiron 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 5, 2015 Share #381 Posted November 5, 2015 shrouds and ratlines look really sweet Ron. you've gone quite a ways since I last looked in kiwiron 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J T Lombard Posted November 5, 2015 Share #382 Posted November 5, 2015 Ron: Thank you for taking the trouble to adding back in the pictures that were missing from your earlier posts. It really adds to the narrative & just further enhances your wonderful build log. Truly inspirational. best regards J kiwiron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted November 6, 2015 Share #383 Posted November 6, 2015 Novelty what novelty. For the love of god and country we do these crazy things.! kiwiron 1 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share #384 Posted February 11, 2016 Finally got around to doing something.Futtock shrouds done,top shrouds,tie the deadeyes together next.After 5 years we are finally getting the house rebuild after the Chch earthquakes so the present house will be demolished next month. cristikc, BANYAN, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted February 11, 2016 Share #385 Posted February 11, 2016 Nice work on those shrouds Ron.... looking good!!! Frank kiwiron 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted February 11, 2016 Share #386 Posted February 11, 2016 Hi Ron Nice work. Denis kiwiron 1 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share #387 Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks Frank and Denis. riverboat 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted February 12, 2016 Share #388 Posted February 12, 2016 You're welcome!!....... Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #389 Posted February 13, 2016 All the ratlines are done,i find it quite relaxing and easy compared to most other things.I'll attach the bowsprit next much easier doing the rats without it there.Don't you hate it when trimming the ratlines you cut through the main shroud line and yes you do it more than once,oops. maggsl_01, popeye the sailor, Captain Slog and 9 others 12 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #390 Posted February 13, 2016 It's been awhile since I've looked in, Ron. Life and all that. You Endeavour is looking great. Very impressive. kiwiron, Captain Slog and DenPink 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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