Newsworthy updates from Chris Watton

[Keith_W]

Chris, may I suggest that you create an admiralty type model as your next project?

[catopower]

Ah.. found it.. NRG Journal.  Autumn issue, right inside the front cover.   Ages of Sail ad but nothing on their website. 

 

 

My bad!

 

I wanted to make sure the ad announced the kit in time for the NRG Conference, but didn't realize how quickly the ad would show up in the Journal. The kit is coming soon. We were hoping to have a more definitive date by now, but will have to wait for more info. I'll try to get a mention of the kit on the Ages of Sail website, but will have to do a little reorganizing first. Maybe later this weekend.

 

 

Clare

 

[mtaylor]

Clare,

 

No problem from my end.  BTW, congrats on the cover ship for the NRJ. 

[chris watton]

The Revenge should be due for release this year, as I know Amati have been working on finalising the Italian translations of my text. They are still on their Summer holidays right now, though (whole of July and August!)

 

Right now, I am working on the 64th scale Victory plans (masts and spars). I have about another three months (at least) of work for the booklets, plans and instructions, as the model is so detailed (although I am bound to make a mistake, which someone will be only too pleased to point out at some stage... lol)

 

Bellona is a fine looking model, and I think would sell very well, but I need to re-design a lot of the parts, following the knowledge gained while designing Victory (which was an improvement of the Bellona designs)

 

After Victory, I would like Amati to allow me to concentrate on the 64th scale Prince, as I have re designed that in-line with the new hull construction methods I use (like Victory)

 

Not sure about an Admiralty-type model. As much as I would like to design one, I think the perceived complexity may put off all but the most experienced - and those that can would probably be experienced enough to build their own from plans anyway. Plus, of course, the edges of the exposed frames would be black, from the laser cutting....

[Ulises Victoria]

I will wait for the Victory, whenever it comes out!!!

[Jaxboat]

Hi Clare,

Thanks for "fessing up". No Problem. I have always found Murphy was an optimist when it comes to new product intros.

Best

Jaxboat

[Jaxboat]

Thanks for the update, Chris . I hope your wiener dogs are earning their kibble by helping you with your plans or at least lending moral support

Best

Jaxboat

[Keith_W]

Chris, I would give one of my kidneys for a Prince or the 64th scale Victory. At least I know that the Victory is close by, she should hopefully be on the market by the time I finish my current build.

[chris watton]

Cheers Jaxboat The wiener's (or sausage dogs, as we call them) do help in me keeping sane - they're usually up to something that makes me laugh out loud!

 

Have no pics to post, as I have no models here at home at all right now - not one! (Apart from a lot of unopened plastic kits, which I never seem to have the time to start...)

 

Will keep you updated on all the stuff I am doing, especially Victory. If I add less text to the instructions, the quicker the final stages of development are, due to less translating. I know Amati have invested a hell of a lot of money in the development of this model, so I cannot envisage them sitting on this once the plans/instructions/photo booklet have been finalised.

 

Chris

[chris watton]

Chris, I would give one of my kidneys for a Prince or the 64th scale Victory. At least I know that the Victory is close by, she should hopefully be on the market by the time I finish my current build.

 

Prince is my favourite. I re-designed it to allow more lower deck detail - can't wait to start this one!

 

[pirozzi]

H Chris,

Bring on the Prince, please. I am now building the Royal William and want very much to build the Prince since they are related.

 

Vince P.

[NMBROOK]

Hi Chris

 

I think you know my vote goes for Prince Given your attention to detail on Victory,it would make a nice change for me to build something almost out of the box   .I say almost,as I would probably swap the walnut for swiss pear   .No rush,I have umpteen projects on the go for the meantime    

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

 

As we are both members of the European Union,why don't we get the same holidays as Italy?????            

[Kusawa2000]

Chris: Appreciate the update. While it doesn't appear that the Bellona will be making a appearance anytime soon, I hope you don't mind me in asking.. :-) Sounds like you will have your hands full for the next year or 2. Keep the updates and new kits coming...

 

Mike Draper

[RMC]

It seems a bit odd to design and build such a beautiful model as the Bellona and then leave the project fallow. I'm hoping that by the time I finish Vanguard (which will probaly take another couple of years) the Bellona will finally be on sale.

 

RMC

[chris watton]

It seems a bit odd to design and build such a beautiful model as the Bellona and then leave the project fallow. I'm hoping that by the time I finish Vanguard (which will probaly take another couple of years) the Bellona will finally be on sale.

 

RMC

 

Bellona will be released one day, I have no doubt. What I am saying it that it needs a re-design to make the hull assembly easier to assemble, and it needs to be stronger. As it is now, I have no doubt experienced model makers would have no trouble, but for the rest, it would be a nightmare for them (I can only imagine how many emails a day I would get forwarded by Amati from customers asking for help)! I just need to design out the fragility, and once that's done, it should be fine as the rest of the parts are fine.

 

Bellona was designed to try out new ways of building the hull with much more internal detail. from that experience I was able to design Victory with full internal detail. This was part of the point of Bellona - a test-bed for new ideas. If I still had to design the same old boring block-type models, instead of trying out new stuff, I would have gone mad with boredom by now!

Edited August 26, 2014 by chris watton

[RMC]

Fair enough. I look forward to the finished (and sturdy) product- and  hope this makes some small contribution to your future sanity.

 

RMC

Edited August 26, 2014 by RMC

[Kusawa2000]

Chris: I do appreciate the work you are putting into the Bellona. It will definitely be a treat to have a different approach to kit construction. More internal detail would be a interesting addition to a kit. Most of us add that through "kit bashing". My Agamemnon has slowed in its progress with all of the extra "add ons" (as well as all of lifes interruptions). As you know from my posts in the past, I am keen to see this model released as a result of your work and if there is anything us lads and lasses can do to help please let (me) us know! :-)

 

Mike Draper

[Leo-zd]

Hi to all
I have some question about Lady Nelson
on kit is idicated that the scale is 1:64

OK.. but..
in building instructions is indicated that the original vessel was 52' 6" long (aprox 16,03 m) and 17' 6" large (aprox 5,34m)

the model's hull is 29,7cm long that indicate the scale of about 1:54 ?

someone can help ?

Thk a lot
Leo

Edited September 12, 2014 by Leo-zd

[ccoyle]

Leo,

 

It depends on how the original is measured. The term 'length' is tricky in the nautical world. It could mean length overall (LOA) or length on deck (LOD) or length between perpendiculars. Chris will be able to tell you for certain how the scale was determined.

 

Cheers!

[pirozzi]

Hi Leo,

While I am not familiar with that kit, it does not surprise me about the scale being off. It is common for kits of many makers to be off considerably from the published scale on their kits. Not sure if the problem is with original data on ships or poor measurements, but it is seen frequently with kits and plans.

 

Vince P.

[Leo-zd]

thk for answers

But in the instructions is indicated the Lengh and the Beam
As the lengh is biggher dimension it is easier to calculate.

So the model lengh of hull is 29,7 mm , the only elements which are longher but mutch longher are bowsprit and boom, so these don't enter in measurement. From other side aren't any element on the hull which could modifi the lengh.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Leo-zd

[Leo-zd]

here is the measurement

I am interested to built the model in 1:100, that is the reason of my question

Edited September 12, 2014 by Leo-zd

[amateur]

As Chris states: 'length' has various meanings.

There are a couple of options:

1. length overal (i.e. including bowsprit etc)

2. length between the perpendiculars (which is what you indicated in your sketch)

3. length over deck, which is more or less the length of the deck (between the sterns)

4. length over the waterline, which is the the distance between the points were the sterns 'hit the water'

5. keel length. Sometimes only the lenght of the keel is mentioned, which is consierably shorter that the other lengths.

 

One of these lengths corresponds with your stated length. As Lady Nelson is a hypothetical ship, modelled to a more or less standard design, there is no reason to be 'off scale'. I suspect that the 16 meter refers to something else than the length between the perpendiculars.

 

Jan

[Leo-zd]

Maybe... I don't know
but on what is in that case refered the beam?

Anywhere I have a intention to made LN in 1:100 or something similar because I like small boats in small scalas.
 

I have another question , anybody has idea about sails for LN ?

Edited September 13, 2014 by Leo-zd

[Shura]

I thing 16 meters much more for cutter "Lady Nelson", but normal for brig "Lady Nelson".

Edited September 14, 2014 by Shura

[teloo]

Hello MSW Great stuff this build log . What I would like to see is an aftermarket upgrade - or let us say a "downgrade" - for the Victory to build her in an older configuration before 1800 with the balconies on the stern and so on as seen on some pictures. just an idea regards ludger

Edited September 16, 2014 by teloo

[tracey odd]

does anyone know where i can buy photo etched king monogram for the canons and depth markings for my 1/72 victory build 

Edited December 11, 2014 by tracey odd

[mtaylor]

Tracey,

 

Have a look here:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2713-dafi´s-photo-etch-set-for-hms-victory-1100-heller-and-other-ships/

 

I'm not sure who else sell such items for that scale (or close to it).  

[tracey odd]

thank you for your quick response, ill give them a try

[Leo-zd]

Hi to all

I have some question about Lady Nelson

on kit is idicated that the scale is 1:64

OK.. but..

in building instructions is indicated that the original vessel was 52' 6" long (aprox 16,03 m) and 17' 6" large (aprox 5,34m)

the model's hull is 29,7cm long that indicate the scale of about 1:54 ?

 

someone can help ?

 

Thk a lot

Leo

I think that is correct admit own mistakes, and this was my mistake.

After I had controlled other dimensions and for last also the cannons (3 ponders) I realized that the scale of Lady Nelson is 1:64

The reason for all this is that I started the scratc build of the model, I was convinced that the scale is 1:100 but in fact I am working in 1:119 .