GLakie Posted February 11, 2016 Share #541 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) That's a really good likeness of the carving in the pic Dave. Is that one that needs a duplicate also? Edited February 11, 2016 by GLakie WackoWolf, Canute, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #542 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) That's a really good likeness of the carving in the pic Dave. Is that one that needs a duplicate also? Yep.... Just finished pouring the mold.....it will cure out overnight. Note that the finished plastic casting will have considerably sharper and cleaner detail. I just came in from detailing the first casting from the "birdman" mold, and it really cleaned up nicely. Should be able to post pics from both pieces tomorrow. Thanks Frank, and Greg.....always great to hear from you guys. Edited February 12, 2016 by SawdustDave Canute, Angarfather, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 12, 2016 Share #543 Posted February 12, 2016 Cool... not only are you an excellent carver, you're fast. I can't wait for the update, but I will... <twiddles thumbs><whistles><looks innocent> JesseLee, Canute, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted February 12, 2016 Share #544 Posted February 12, 2016 Hi Dave, Wonderful work and as Mark says really fast! I can't believe how rapidly you are able to create these lovely carvings. As for the item in his left hand...my 2c is it looks like a royal orb so perhaps it really is the king himself! Cheers, Nigel. mtaylor, WackoWolf, CaptainSteve and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #545 Posted February 12, 2016 Hi Dave, Wonderful work and as Mark says really fast! I can't believe how rapidly you are able to create these lovely carvings. As for the item in his left hand...my 2c is it looks like a royal orb so perhaps it really is the king himself! Cheers, Nigel. Royal Orb....Knew I could count on you Nigel. Thanks CaptainSteve, GLakie, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #546 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) New carvings finished and placed..... The clean-up of the two new carvings went pretty well.... actually a little more detail than I expected, considering the scale. And here's the image of the carving I'm choosing to fit into that last panel. Unfortunately, I expect to lose a lot of these amazing details once I scale it down to fit in the 1/2" x 1-1/4" panel. I may have to go back to Sculpy for this one.... we shall see. Edited February 12, 2016 by SawdustDave michael mott, mtaylor, JesseLee and 10 others 13 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted February 12, 2016 Share #547 Posted February 12, 2016 Just Amazing Dave, Beautiful work Best Regards, Pete SawdustDave, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #548 Posted February 12, 2016 Dragons roughed out in Sculpy.... Think I will try something new with this one because of the delicate nature around the necks and heads of the dragons. Taking this to the oven on the glass used to sculpt it. After baking it to a cure, I'll build a mold box onto the glass around the figure and pour the rubber mold compound. I'm afraid to try to transfer this particular piece from the glass to another mold box. JesseLee, CaptainSteve, Jack12477 and 8 others 11 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted February 13, 2016 Share #549 Posted February 13, 2016 Nice work Dave - - - ummmm, two carvings in one day???? Getoutahere already Here I work 5 hours and am not even half done with my carving. Must be something wrong with me Like those dragons Dave! Cheers, mtaylor, Omega1234, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #550 Posted February 13, 2016 G'day Dave Great work on the two dragons. Amazing detail! Question: do you do the work on glass and let it harden before you place it in the oven or what do you do? Havagooday mate Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #551 Posted February 13, 2016 G'day Dave Great work on the two dragons. Amazing detail! Question: do you do the work on glass and let it harden before you place it in the oven or what do you do? Havagooday mate Greg Good question Greg.... The Sculpy clay doesn't begin hardening until placed in the oven..... a thin piece like this only requires 15 min at 275 degrees. mtaylor, Piet and GLakie 3 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #552 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Every ship modeler knows and appreciates these little moments of celebration..... last plank of a hull or deck, last clove hitch finishing up ratlines, last cannon rigged of a major war ship..... Here's the last carving to fill in all the broadside hull carvings of my SOS.... Edited February 13, 2016 by SawdustDave usedtosail, UpstateNY, JesseLee and 12 others 15 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted February 13, 2016 Share #553 Posted February 13, 2016 Congrats Dave! All that carving had to be a daunting task to say the least. Piet, SawdustDave, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #554 Posted February 13, 2016 It's just a good start George Omega1234, Piet, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted February 13, 2016 Share #555 Posted February 13, 2016 All I can say is WOW! Jesse Piet, Canute, SawdustDave and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #556 Posted February 13, 2016 G'day Dave I didn't explain my question in the correct manor. Before you place the dragons in the oven, did you remove it from the glass or waited till it dried a bit then placed them in the oven, or what did you do? I think trying to remove the dry, unovened piece it would brake up. On the other hand the ovened piece would stick to the glass and would brake up when removed. Hope tht you understand my question now. Thanks for the temperature info on your previous post. Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #557 Posted February 13, 2016 G'day Dave I didn't explain my question in the correct manor. Before you place the dragons in the oven, did you remove it from the glass or waited till it dried a bit then placed them in the oven, or what did you do? I think trying to remove the dry, unovened piece it would brake up. On the other hand the ovened piece would stick to the glass and would brake up when removed. Hope tht you understand my question now. Thanks for the temperature info on your previous post. Greg I think I understand your question more better now Greg.... This particular piece was so delicate, mainly because of the long skinny necks of both dragons, I chose to bake them on the glass without trying to move them. Then, even though the clay was fully cured, I was afraid to try to remove them from the glass.... so I simply built a mold box around the clay piece while still on the glass. You're right....a piece this fragile cannot be moved from the glass without great risk, even after baking. Sure enough, after removing the perfect silicone rubber mold, I very carefully attempted to removed the clay figure from the glass....THREE PIECES! That help? mtaylor, Piet, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #558 Posted February 13, 2016 Thanks Dave Just an idea from Doris. She makes her figures on the back paper of contact sheeting, and it works for her. Havagooday mate Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #559 Posted February 13, 2016 Great looking carvings, Dave. I think Jesse summed it up nicely.... WOW!!!! SawdustDave, WackoWolf, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted February 13, 2016 Share #560 Posted February 13, 2016 Every ship modeler knows and appreciates these little moments of celebration..... last plank of a hull or deck, last clove hitch finishing up ratlines, last cannon rigged of a major war ship..... Here's the last carving to fill in all the broadside hull carvings of my SOS.... aa.JPG Hi Dave I really don't know what to say, apart from "bloody incredible"! Congratulations on completing the carvings. Cheers Patrick Canute, Piet, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #561 Posted February 13, 2016 Thanks Dave Just an idea from Doris. She makes her figures on the back paper of contact sheeting, and it works for her. Havagooday mate Greg Doris is an incredible artist, as you know Greg. Her SOS just may be among the finest in the world....created in paper, by the way. Have also used waxed paper.... but, now I must give away another personal secret.... The "glass" I use for sculpting is actually a 5" magnifying lens taken from an old shop light fixture. The radius surface allows me to spin it around as needed, and the size allows me to hold it in my hand when I go in really close for extremely fine details. I also usually work over a solid black mat for the background in order to see the sharp contrast of the edges. Then, there's the advantage, that the finished piece can be taken directly to the oven without risk of distortion. Works great for me. Many thanks again for your interest, and thoughtful comments my friend. Dave Piet, mtaylor, UpstateNY and 6 others 9 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 13, 2016 Share #562 Posted February 13, 2016 No problems mate and thanks for your secrets, it will only be among us! Ok. Lol Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted February 13, 2016 Share #563 Posted February 13, 2016 Congrats Dave, fantastic achievement. Quite a variety of figures you have, makes it the more interesting to look ogle at. Cheers, Canute, SawdustDave, WackoWolf and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted February 14, 2016 Share #564 Posted February 14, 2016 Congrats Dave on celebrating this milestone...it must be a great feeling to see your SOS coming to life. Also... many thanks for sharing all your different carving techniques. Cheers, Nigel. Piet, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted February 14, 2016 Share #565 Posted February 14, 2016 Every ship modeler knows and appreciates these little moments of celebration..... Dave !! That is far more than a " ... little moment" !! That is an OMG moment !! toms10, GLakie, SawdustDave and 6 others 9 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted February 14, 2016 Share #566 Posted February 14, 2016 I agree with Captain Steve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GLakie, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted February 14, 2016 Share #567 Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) So do I. Celerbration day, indead! Edited February 14, 2016 by Nenad mtaylor, GLakie, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted February 14, 2016 Share #568 Posted February 14, 2016 Kudos great idea and wonderful carving using Sculpy. I remember going to an artist's fair and saw several carving techniques. One of them that is similar to your method but different material. He used hard wax then placed it in a resin mold and cast it. David B Piet, SawdustDave, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share #569 Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) My respect for a few "Masters" of the art of ship modeling is so high, I tend to read their teachings like the gospel of truth. This comment by my personal favorite Master of all, EdT, kinda put me in a personal quandary.... "We are modelers, not designers. Sometimes design is unavoidable due to lack of definition, but in the case of the single brass rail, I think it is reasonable given the evidence." As much as I intended to take a pure modeler approach to building the SOS, I quickly discovered that the plan sheets were so flawed, I had to completely abandon them and seek other graphic resources. Then, finding, among every SOS BUILD I have studied..... They are all different in so many ways, I concluded that there really isn't a truly "correct" interpretation of this great ship. While Bill Short seems to have approached it most closely following the only painting in existence,, there are still many ways to approach much of the structural architecture. So, rightly or wrongly, I do find myself, out of necessity, being a "designer" in this particular build. Would much prefer having a complete set of historically accurate plans. Edited February 17, 2016 by SawdustDave Piet, GLakie, Canute and 7 others 10 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 17, 2016 Share #570 Posted February 17, 2016 I agree 110% Dave. Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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