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Just one note as while working on the friezes I have several photos of Minerva out for inspiration. Its one of the reason I have decided to go with a lighter toned frieze. The Cedar is light and anything darker would be too much. But I wanted to point out a few things. Note the unpainted roof shingles of the quarter galleries.... Note the painted interior of the qgalleries...I dont like that its a weird color. But I will be making a second roof as a test with the top painted the same blue as the frieze while leaving the shingles natural. There are plenty of choices out there and looking at the way contemporary builders did this is great for inspiration. The Minerva model in the Naval Academy is much more refined and built with more expertise than the Winnie contemporary model. The Winnie model is a bit crude in its details by comparison. So examining both makes for good study!! Also note how you can see that the contemporary builder painted his frieze on paper and glued it on the model. There is a bit of lifting in one of the images I posted.
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The reason why I havent just completed the quarter gallery is simple. I want to make a nice clean edge between the quarter gallery roof, rail and the painted frieze. This means the frieze along the hull needs to go on first. I am still testing and tweaking that. But first...the 3/32" wide fancy molding must be scraped and glued on the hull. This will be our guide for the friezes. I am just talking about the middle molding. Once glued in position, you will be able to sit the frieze on top of it as shown. The thinner frieze can be butt against it along the bottom as well. Then to finish it off the you will be able to use the friezes as a guide to place the remaining molding in position. This is the next step for me. Once this is completed I will then get back to finishing the fancy rail on the roof of the quarter gallery. Once this is done on both sides of the hull, I will then start finishing the stern transom with all of the carvings and columns. When that is all done it will complete chapter three. But there is a lot of work involved with all this stuff so it will take several weeks at least. I have stop work this weekend though because I am leaving for New Orleans yet again!!! Second attempt at some fun and relaxation. Here is a look at the testing so far!!! The friezes are not glued on yet as I am still tweaking them. They are just resting on the molding.
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You could paint the interior but i rather like just leaving it natural wood. The interior on the contemporary model is just left natural although the paneled walls that sep the cabins are painted off white. Yes i added facilities in both galleries.
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Yes I agree, I dont think that would work or even look good. I just spray it with some fixative and it looks good to me. If you wanted to, you could always use it as a paint by numbers sort of thing and just paint on top of the printed frieze. But I think the printout looks better than anything I have seen short of just painting it from scratch. I did finish the roof today... The roof is laser cut and 1/4" thick. It has a laser etched reference line to show you where to bevel it to the "sloped" shape needed. Then I used some laser cut shingles and added them to the roof. Three rows as is typical. After each row starting with the bottom, I sanded the shingles very thin....paper thin almost. The tops were sanded flush with the roof to accept the next row. Then I repeated it....until completed. There are marks on each shingle to help you position the second and third rows. Then the roof and tiles was painted black. But the tiles are more of a dark slate gray. So I weathered them a bit so it wasnt a stark black. Then I added a thin molding on top as you can see. This is also laser cut but it also needs to be sanded thinner. 1/32" is too thick. I sanded it to about 1/64" thick. At this stage I still havent glued the shingled roof in position. So resist the urge. Before finishing up this quarter gallery I want to now start on the one on the port side. Once that is completed up to this stage I will finish the both of them. The fancy rail along the roof still needs to be added. But that is better done after the friezes are glued to the sides of the hull. So I have to finish those up first. And finally some inspiration and reference which you can compare to my interpretation. Although I used the draft to correct any differences with the contemporary model. Chuck
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That looks really good. Well done indeed!!! Chuck
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Math isnt my thing....I will leave it to one of the other guys to give you that percentage!!! Keep in mind none of the stuff will fit that is offered as a laser cut package and also the carvings. You will need to build it all at that scale. Chuck
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Yes there would be but they are seldom shown on ship models. You could of course add one. But its a bit "kitchen sink" for my tastes.
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Yes that was all straightened out, thanks. The tissue paper didnt work. I used plain paper and it worked well. The friezes you see are glued on permanently now. More to add soon.
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Thank You!!! I added the columns to the QGalleries. The top and bottom of the columns were done using a scraped strip of boxwood. Basically you scrape the strip like you would make a molding. Then cut off tiny pieces that become the top and bottom of each column. You still must file the sape on each side to finish it off. This was a 3/32" x 3/64" boxwood strip. Then the fluted column was added between these two pieces to complete each column. These are laser cut from .025" thick boxwood. They have laser etched flutes. Note how just a small strip of blue remains on each side of the columns. I will start working on the other side so now so I complete the galleries at the same time. Then I will put the shingled roof on each qgallery.
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I hope so. I actually have three resin sets of figures right now. Jack is almost ready with his so you can order them. The friezes will be available to download. But you guys still have a long way to go!!!! Theres a lot planking ahead you guys. Dont rush through that....this stuff will be ready when you are ready. 😃
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To close up the Qgalleries, I started by adding the top. This is laser cut (1/16" thick) It is important to create the same angle as the bottom. This was marked with the paper template earlier. You can see my tick marks in pencil. Getting this angle correct is crucial just like the bottom of the Qgalleries. Otherwise your windows wont fit well. The aft edge needs to be beveled to sit flush against the transom. Next we need to put in the uprights between each window. These are two layers of 3/64" thick laser cut strips. One layer is slightly wider than the top layer. This forms a rabbet on both sides when glued together as shown below. You will need four of these on each side. Clean the laser char off each layer before you glue them together. You should also paint the top face of these blue before you start shaping them. Yes you will need to touch these up later but this helps. I am using cerulean blue acrylic paint. It is a pretty good match to the friezes. You can see these four pieces glued into position below. One note.....the two outside pieces dont have a rabbet on the outside edges. They were sanded away. The rabbet is used to catch the windows when they are inserted later. In fact, how do you know where these should go so they are spaced the proper distance apart. Use the laser cut windows as a guide. I started by gluing the two outside pieces on first. Then I positioned a window temporarily so I knew where the next one went. Do this carefully so all your windows fit. Its good to do a dry fit first. Use rubber cement to temporary hold the uprights in position. Another important note....the forward upright has a very drastic bevel on its forward edge so it fits snug against the planking. I also left each upright a bit longer and once glued in place, I sanded them flush with the top. It should look like this when you are done...but the windows are NOT glued in at this point. Dont do that yet.... You will also notice that these uprights stand proud of the transom edge....that is OK and by design. It should stand proud by one layer or 3/64" along the transom. Then we had to insert the top above each window. There are two layer remember? But you seriously only need to put the outside layer on. Its OK to leave a gap because the roof (with its shingles) will cover those gaps. I used 7/32" wide x 3/64" thick strips. This is wider than you will need. But after getting the angles correct and they are glued in position, you can sand the tops down flush like the uprights. Lastly....we need to add the fancy molding along the top edge of the Qgallery. It is scraped like the others and is also 1/8" wide and 3/64" thick. You will need to bend this to get it to lay against the surface properly. I also had to file out the aft edge of the molding so the figure would fit. I used a sharp miniature chisel actually after the molding was glued into position. I think you can see what I did so the shoulder of the figure would fit. To finish it up I will have to add the fancy fluted columns in between the windows next...but I ran out of steam and will do that during the week. 😊
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Thank you so much, that is very kind of you to say.
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Just a small update...I have put the seats in the galleries. This means I can start closing them up next. The seats are made of two laser cut pieces that are 1/32" thick. The front panel and the top. You still need to bevel and tweak the edges for the best fit.
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Why would i do that? They used them.
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Here is what the frieze with the name looks like tested on the model. Its a little crooked but this is just a test...its not glued on yet. I think this one is the winner. Thank you David for helping me with the font. It looks very good and much better than my attempts.
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I actually just use a glue stick....the kind for paper. It has never failed me.
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I have used regular copy paper in the past. It works fine. But I am toying around with the idea of experimenting with acid free tissue paper. Its the same stuff that I use for flags. In theory it will be easier to hide the cut edges and fold it in place. Then trim off the excess. But that is just a theory. I will try it out tonight. This test was just done with plain old copy paper. You can see how the edge turns white after cutting. I usually use a soft pastel pencil to color this edge....but I am thinking this wont be needed with the tissue paper. Chuck
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Yes its freaky although Im not that fat yet....but maybe after some turkey and stuffing and pumpkin pie. 😀
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Happy thanksgiving guys!!!! I woke up this morning and hit the head. Took a selfie with my phone. Then I started working on the model, Here I am inspecting the quarter galleries. The 1/4" scale figure was painted by a friend of mine in my local club. He made it look like me.
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Indeed it is something to think about. But as I prefer not to offer “everything in the box kits”, its important to me to at least discuss the possibilities. Then each builder can decide fir themselves. Leaving some details to “bash” gives everyone the opportunity to make the model more unique. Hopefully with so many graphics software packages out there, folks will have some fun with the frieze. Import my file and play with it.
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