-
Posts
9,259 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Everything posted by Chuck
-
Part One - PartOne.pdf Part Two - PartTwo.pdf Part Three - PartThree.pdf Part four - Partfour.pdf Part five - Partfive.pdf Medway rigging plan - no sails - medwayrigging.pdf Medway sail plan - medwaysailplan.pdf Medway Flag - ensign.pdf Planking fan for Longboat....large planking fan.pdf Bow and stern Lining off templates.....line out templates.pdf Friezes...freizes.pdf Planking - external planks just in case.pdf 7-10-7 templates for yards and mast - 7-10-7medway.pdf Furled Sail Tutorial...Sails for a Cutter Rigged Long Boat.pdf 😊
-
You will notice a few "pinned topics" at the top of this group project area. These pinned topics were set up as an area for all of you to discuss those related subjects as it pertains to the Medway Longboat project. If you have a question or comment related to them please post within those topics so everyone can easily find them later. For example, There will be a pinned topic on planking your longboat. Please post any questions you have about planking in that pinned topic or in your own log for "your" longboat model. Other than those pinned topics, we ask that you only create a build log of your own. Please title it similar to the example listed below. "Chuck's Medway Longboat (1742)" This will make it easier to read if at any time in the future we have to move these build logs somewhere else. It will work just like any other build log. This forum should not have any topics in it other than the properly named "longboat build logs" and pinned topics. Should you want to ask a question or post something, make sure it is posted in either a log or one of the pinned topics. Dont start a new topic. If for whatever reason you guys feel there is a need for a new pinned topic because your discussion doesnt relate to the ones already there....just let me know and I will start another one for you. You know the drill....this basically works like all of the other group project areas. Feel free to ask any questions about this group here. All questions and comments are appreciated and very helpful. To join this project, you must purchase a longboat kit. This group project will have a two parts. First there is the hull. Then there is a secondary mini kit for masting and rigging available should you want to add those details. Add link here
-
Thanks....yes I am not a big fan of those brass and/or bulbous wooden belaying pins. Easy enough to make them myself and you only need four for the longboat. The knees are all finished now. I will add the roller and fixed block sheave on the stem next.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Its this......instead of the sanding drum you see in the photo, I insert the 1/16" x 1/16" strip. Its only abut 1" long so it wont wobble.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thanks No photoshop here!!!! Just go slow and be careful. And keep your hands clean and workspace clean. Thats the secret. Sloooowwww and STEADY. 😊
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Moving along to the mast thwart... The ironwork was fairly straight forward. I used 1/16" x .025 brass strip to make the three straps needed to hold the mast in position. I of course drilled the three holes for the two bracket straps while the brass strip was flat (#74 drill bit). I used the plans to find their placement. Then I bent the two brass straps to shape around some scrap wood the same thickness as the thwart. The final iron strap was bent around a 3/8" dia. drill bit because that is how big the mast will be. Then I bent back the ends so I had a half circle remaining. Then the three pieces were blackened and glued into position. Once glued into position below....I drilled through the holes in the straps part way. Then I inserted small lengths of 24 gauge black wire into each hole. I carefully filed them down so they stood proud of the straps and looked like bolts. Then I touched up the blackening a bit. I turned the four belaying pins from 1/16 x 1/16 boxwood strips in my dremel. I use the flex shaft with the small pen-sized head while I turn the belaying pins to shape. Here is a photo of Mike's belaying pins from Cheerful which are done the same way. And this is what they look like finished on the thwart. Next I will complete the knees along the sides of this thwart and the forward -most thwart. That will complete most of the interior work before rigging starts. Although I will make some oars and a grapnel too. 😄 That will leave the rudder and tiller and a few last details and the hull will be completed. and ready for rigging.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Just under the thwarts but on most cont. models one is shown in place and the other rests on top of the thwarts. The mast was portable and not permanently stepped remember. They would unhook the rigging and store that as well. Everything about the rigging and masts were portable so the boat could be brought onboard the frigate and stored at the waste.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
The Windlass is completed and installed. All I had to do was reduce the ends of the windlass until they were cone shaped and able to fit into the slots of the brackets. I just dis this by hand a little at a time with some sandpaper. I constantly tested and adjusted the cone shape until it slid into the slots easy enough. This meant shortening each side slightly. The brackets are laser cut. I removed the char and added the bolts while off the model. I used black fishing line as usual. The brackets are glued directly to the riser between the thwarts but actually under them. This left a space on the bottom edge between the frames and the bracket as expected where it hangs below the riser. So before gluing it into position, I added a 1/16" x 1/16" strip to the back, bottom edge of the bracket first. This made it so the bracket was seated firmly against the frames and riser. Before adding the bolts I held the bracket against the riser so I could mark the locations for them. You can see how some line up with the frames. While others are just into the riser. This detail is shown on the plans. The two windlass bars were shaped from a 1/8" x 1/8" strip. I just rounded off one end as you see below by chocking it in my hand drill. Then I squared off the other end as shown on the plans so they would fit in the square holes of the windlass. I will only show one in position and just rest the other atop the thwarts. But in the photos you see both installed just for the fun of it.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Ok Guys.....put your thinking caps on. What if any type of flag (1742) should we fly on the mast? Lets see some images... Chuck
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
I ship almost anywhere in the world. Except for China, LOL
- 1,784 replies
-
- winchelsea
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Nope....you will always need to buy at least the starter package and the plans will NOT have any drawings for the bulkheads and other parts. This is being done to prevent folks from stealing the design and pirating the project. You wont need those templates on the plans because you will have the laser cut parts. It also prevents people from posting the plans on their websites and forums as a download which is unfortunately all too common. It has happened with my Cheerful and I only need that to happen once before I find a way to prevent it. Chuck
- 1,784 replies
-
- winchelsea
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
I currently offer milled sheets and strips at Syren. I dont know many other who do. But most exotic lumber places stock it in larger billets. The Medway longboat posted below is made entirely from AYC except for the molding strip which is boxwood. https://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com/milled-lumber.php#!/Alaskan-Yellow-Cedar-Ship-Model-Wood-from-the-Syren-Woodshed/c/28580529/offset=0&sort=normal
-
FYI.....as some have asked for dimensions of rigged model. Rigged, this model will 23 1/2" long and 18 1/4" tall. 😊 This is the rigging plan for those that wont want to add sails...
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thanks Allan. Anyone can join in. I will say once more though, this is not a beginner model project. It is very challenging. But its hard for me to judge because I designed the thing. Having said that, I am sure that within a group environment there will be much encouragement and many ideas and suggestions to help you problem solve. That is the power of a group project. I learn things every day from folks and many of those tricks and tips were used while I built the prototype. Chuck
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thanks guys. Its time to make the windlass. Some people may get nervous about shaping a piece of wood like this. But if you just take your time and go slow it will go well. I created templates that will be glued to all four sides of a 3/8 x 3/8" stick of cedar. I used a glue stick to attach the templates. Note how the stick is left a bit longer than the templates. The ends will be rounded eventually to a cone shape. I will wait to check its fit before I do that and trim each end to fit the space. Then the corners were removed and sanded down to match the template as shown below. I used a sharp #11 blade initially to remove the material quicker. I shaved off the corners carefully and stopped just short of the line ob the templates. Then I finished it up with 320 grit sandpaper. I also drilled the holes for the windlass bars. I used a #40 drill bit. The templates were removed easy enough by wetting them down and then they come right off. I cleaned up the edges a bit by sanding and tweaking the edges until it looked nice and crisp. Then I used my #11 blade again to carefully square up those holes. The finished windlass up to this point is below. Remember that I still have to reduce the ends to a cone shape so the windlass fits inside the brackets along the risers inboard. That isnt a finished handle for the windlass. That is just a 3/32" x 3/32" strip test fit in each hole. I used a boxwood strip which is a hard wood. It helped to make the square holes nice and crisp. Just push them into the holes gently. You can use any square strip this size even a brass strip which I didnt have handy. You can see the windlass in the contemporary model below.....next I will be shaping the ends and adding the brackets so it can be installed.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
That will just be a PDF to download like every other kit monograph/instructions I write. It keeps costs down. Chuck
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Yes......more or less. For a complete kit of all of the parts you will need to complete the hull (including friezes) it would cost $170 - $175. That is all cedar with boxwood accents. I am not sure what the starter package will cost which I originally stated would include the keel parts and frames along with the plans and base board. That was originally going to come in at around $110. But then folks wanting to scratch the remaining parts including the planking would still need to buy the cedar sheets to complete the hull. It doesnt make economical sense to have a starter package because after you buy the additional wood sheets you will need, it would end up costing about the same anyway. But if you guys still want it, I will provide one. I thought most would see that it doesnt make economical sense and instead would rather have all the laser cut parts anyway. I am not pricing this kit to far beyond the materials and laser costs. I want to see more people join the group and build the kit together. The kit has about 25 laser cut sheets and additional strip wood, brass strip, wire and fishing line etc.....and the printed friezes. What do guys think? I think its quite affordable considering the new 1/2" scale MS kit which is basswood will cost you about $125. I think its well worth an additional $50 considering the differences in the two kits. The rigging package will follow but in all honesty you guys can get that stuff anywhere....I am thinking another $30 - $35 or so but it depends on the sail materials or silkspan. But you guys can pick that stuff up anywhere. Rope, blocks, wire, brass strips, Deadeyes and sail material with a flag. The original hull kit will come with the rigging and sail plans. Chuck
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Erik....Does this help? You should join the group. What would be better to get your ship model juices flowing again. The new model is abut 15 -16" long for the hull. Then you have to of course add the mast ...yards and rigging. 😊
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thank You gentlemen!! Just a quick comparison as the new larger and improved longboat is far enough along. You can see how different and more elegant the shape is on the newer version. It has a much fuller bow and as you proceed to the stern the newer version has a more pleasing curve. You can see many other differences as well. The floorboards and other features are more detailed and true to the Medway contemporary model.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thanks guys. Nothing has changed. There will be a full hull kit (everything you need in one box) followed by a smaller mini kit with all of the rigging and masting stuff. Just like the barge, virtually every part of this hull you saw me build so far is made of laser cut parts. In fact, I already have 10 kits already made up. But those are reserved for the guys in my local club. I literally just finished cutting the last sheets today. I am awaiting a new batch of milled cedar which should come in a couple of weeks. I will make 10 more right away. Each kit has about 25 sheets of laser cut parts. Thats just for the hull. As soon as the hull is finished and I finalize the plans, I will be ready to get this group started if there is still any interest. Once I get to that point I will ask again for a comitment in the online group before I start setting up a new forum area. All I really have left to make on the hull is the windlass, some metal work on the mast thwart, the thole pins, the roller at the bow....rudder and tiller. Thats really it. Then its time to rig it....first without sails.....then with sails. We need a minimum of 8 to start a group....but ten would be a real nice round number to start with.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
I finished painting the cockpit seats. I also added the knees atop the last thwart and the knees and bracket along the inside of the transom. The knees on the transom were tricky but not too bad. They need to be beveled along the sides and back to fit the angles of the bulwarks and transom. Also note that the center bracket or panel on the transom was added to the top of the stern post and sanded flush. But before doing so, the stern post was reduced in height about 1/16" first. This allowed the top of the panel to sit flush with the top of the transom. Once this was glued into position and the knees added on either side, they were all sanded flush with each other so you couldnt see any seams. I used some wood filler for this too. Once painted it looks nice and clean. The notch on the center of that panel is used as a guide to file that same notch through the transom as well. You can see that in the photos. I hope that makes sense. Next up working my way forward will be the windlass.
- 421 replies
-
- medway longboat
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
About us
Modelshipworld - Advancing Ship Modeling through Research
SSL Secured
Your security is important for us so this Website is SSL-Secured
NRG Mailing Address
Nautical Research Guild
237 South Lincoln Street
Westmont IL, 60559-1917
Model Ship World ® and the MSW logo are Registered Trademarks, and belong to the Nautical Research Guild (United States Patent and Trademark Office: No. 6,929,264 & No. 6,929,274, registered Dec. 20, 2022)
Helpful Links
About the NRG
If you enjoy building ship models that are historically accurate as well as beautiful, then The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is just right for you.
The Guild is a non-profit educational organization whose mission is to “Advance Ship Modeling Through Research”. We provide support to our members in their efforts to raise the quality of their model ships.
The Nautical Research Guild has published our world-renowned quarterly magazine, The Nautical Research Journal, since 1955. The pages of the Journal are full of articles by accomplished ship modelers who show you how they create those exquisite details on their models, and by maritime historians who show you the correct details to build. The Journal is available in both print and digital editions. Go to the NRG web site (www.thenrg.org) to download a complimentary digital copy of the Journal. The NRG also publishes plan sets, books and compilations of back issues of the Journal and the former Ships in Scale and Model Ship Builder magazines.