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Good morning Valeriy, and welcome aboard,
I also love steamships and so I just could`t skip to dig into the Ergenstrasse as a model.
Nils
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Today I started with the planking (one layer only, 2 mm thick planks) in 8 and 10 mm width, I`m waiting for the ordered 50 mm dia. brass propellor to arrive per mail, for adequate fitting into the aft area prior to continuing wit the underwater planking.
The bulwarks in the welldeck areas will be made later on from 1,5 mm thick 3 layer beechwood ply, and the frames will be cut away there flush with the well-decks in those places.
After planking the starboard side to the same degree I think I`ll remove the raw-hull from the building base for better handling. The hull will be stiff enough then to avoid any twisting during planking.
Nils
the fine trimming will be done by scraping the outer skin and with a light sanding
all the frame contours are straking very well with the skin planking
planking the midship island sides is also part of this sequence as well as forecastle- and poop sides.
The stringers are a great help for attaching the preliminary holding clamps during glueing
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Amalio, congratulations your model is breathtaking !
it is a beauty
Nils
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you`ve chosen a beautiful model Keith,
I`ll be following the journey ...
Nils
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6 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:
Nils, I have a book about the freighters built by the Manitowac Shipbuilding Co. ( the company that built the Corsicana). Manitowoc built 38 Lake class three Island tramp steamships.
Hi Roger,
thank you so much for your input here. I googled "freighters built by the Manitowac Shipbuilding Co." and found the two pics that show what you and also Andy had mentioned in the post before.
Both about the same tonnage and looking like the Ergenstrasse before the changes. This surely will help to get the masting right on my model
This is the "Norna"
and the "Rio Pastaza"
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11 minutes ago, realworkingsailor said:
Many thanks Andy, good answer,
yes I think youre right, compared with the Corsicana pic only mast # 3 was left standing and the aft derrick booms reach over the entire aft welldeck. Having this in mind I found another movie pic (looking aft) wich proves that. It can be seen that the derrick booms are being supported just before the poop. It also shows 2 extra lifeboats upside down on hatch # 4
Nils
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I an a bit confused about the arrangement of the masts (it is probably not representive for a Laker steamer) and the previous mounted four masts had been removed anyhow.
Acc. to the movie pic below the first mast may be between the two front welldeck hatches, thats OK.
Acc. to the same movie pic the aft mast is directly aft of the superstructure, with the load beams serving both aft welldeck hatches, why not also between the hatches?
Does anyone know why this is so ?
Nils
strange arrangement of the masts, but it seems to be perticular for the Ergenstrasse
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8 hours ago, Jim Lad said:
You're making good progress, Nils.
John
Thank you John,
I`m putting on the last stringer on the port side today. The heel with the outcut for the 4-blade prop is in work as well as the rudder arrangement.
Nils
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2 hours ago, bruce d said:
Hello Nils,
I'm a little late but will try to keep up.
A nice subject, it will be impressive at this scale.
Bruce
hello Bruce, welcome and its nice to have you on board
Nils
1 hour ago, Blue Ensign said:Always a pleasure to follow your projects Nils, you select such interesting subjects.
Regards,
B.E.
many thanks B.E.
I read the German version, der Seefuchs of "The Sea Chase" a couple of weeks ago, and was looking if anyone had ever built a model of the Ergenstrasse, but in vain, no results.
What I found on the web was the original Laker steamer which transfered into the movie ship. I also remembered some drawing data I had filed some years ago of the Ferris typ wooden steamer.
What came out is now my new project
Nils
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very nice fisher boat Maurino and painted in mediteranian colors, well done
Nils
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1 hour ago, FriedClams said:
A nice sturdy beginning. Looking good.
Gary
Thank you Gary and stay tuned
Nils
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7 minutes ago, Ian_Grant said:
Ian, I am myself surprised how fast it goes to date with this build .....
Nils
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update
made the bilge keels, the raw standplates,and the pedestals
Nils
the raw standplate prior to staining and the two pedestals. Am again using brass parts of a candle holder and made a 5 mm center boring
the bilge keels are from aluminium flat 2 x 15 mm. Here in the pic the alum. strips are appr. 12mm wide, but that was too narrow, so they wii be rejected
am experimenting a little how to get the prop / rudder area. The upper aft area (poop sides) will be vertically planked
Nils
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very nice model Lecrenb, very nice progress
Nils
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do`nt worry Grant, your good in time for watching the logs begin,
thanks for looking in .....
Nils
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9 hours ago, Jim Lad said:
John
I´m happy that you like it, stay tuned
Roger
many thanks for your information .......
Nils
I started with the stringers yesterday, 6 on each side, it takes a little tuning on the position of the frame outcuts, but in generell it fits good.
There are now 2 out-cuts in the lower part of the keel and press-in counternuts in the squarebar (topside) for taking up the M5 pedestal spindles for the standplate
the stringers are relatively thin planks but get there strength through the bending. They provide (after sanding) a good surface for the later planking
The press-in nuts .....
where spindles go through
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excellent work Sascha,
I love all those details for example the funnels, and others, great work
Nils
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56 minutes ago, Ian_Grant said:
Looks great! There's nothing like scratch building.......
Thanks Ian, you`ve said it......
Nils
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3 hours ago, druxey said:
A nice and sturdy start, Nils!
Many thanks Druxey,
I`m following a certain pattern of sequences but now and then there are some slight necessary changes depending on how the progress works out, as this is completely a scratch build
Nils
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Dear fellow builders,
I`m pleased to find all this nice response with my Ergenstrasse introduction, and shall be posting the first available pics of the log herewith.......
Gary
the Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse was my most detailed model to date, I`m pleased that you liked it
Mark
thanks for looking in and further enjoy the build
Paul
I`m very pleased you like it
Roger
thanks very much for your kind and interesting to read input on this behalf
Andy
Yes, I remember it was a waterline-model kit from the webs homepage of Sylvan models. The pic in my introduction was just to give an idea what a Laker steamer would look like
Nils
dimensions / data
hull, frameplan and lines taken from wooden Ferris design steamer (Emergancy Fleet)
frames adopted to transparent paper glued onto 3 layer birch plywood
frame set up on the base building board
a lot of jigsaw work.....
the raw cut tiles for better handling
the hull shape is coming on with every frame, the edge outcuts are for placing the stringers
here to be seen, the square bar "backbone" of the hull. This will also take up the mounting spindles for the stand pedetals
an additional keel bar is placed underneath the square bar
next in progress will be the mounting of the stringers and check of the lines staking
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Cyclone-Class Destroyer 1902 by Valeriy V - scale 1:45 - Russian Imperial Navy
in - Build logs for subjects built 1901 - Present Day
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Great diagonal Karweel plaking
Nils