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Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I don't know if this will help, but on the Mamoli Yacht Mary, the bowsprit is set up to the side of the stem with gammoning going to a metal fitting that should be easy to fabricate. I will get you a shot of the plans later where it will be easier to see. -
I really can't say much more than has already been said.. You have made an attention to detail that I am not ready to tackle yet, but I will be referring to your methods often, in an effort to improve my skills. Something that caught my attention is the grain detail on your planking. It wasn't as obvious on the long shots of the hull, but now with the closeups of your channels, it really pops. It reminds me of curly maple. Beautiful !
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Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
See my edit! You are correct. Mondfeld obviously has an error in the print.. -
Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
OOps.. Let me recheck my work! You sound right. I have it now.. Its not .166 percent, its .166 period.. You are absolutely correct. I apologize for questioning you.. -
Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Are you saying the mainstay would be 498 inches in diameter? That doesn't sound right.. Whereas 5" sounds about right.. Even 49 inches ( 1.66% ) doesn't sound right either.. -
Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Mondfeldt says that the thickness (diameter ) of the mainstay shall be .166% of the diameter of the main mast at the deck . ( which deck? ) The percentages in the tables are a percentage of the mainstay as measured. So if the diameter of the main mast at the deck is 2'6" ( 30" ) then the main stay should be .166 x 30 = 4.98 ". The bowsprit gammoning should be 40% of this = .40 x 4.98 = 1.992 ", and so on. Obviously you can't proceed without the main mast measurement, and the confidence that it is correct. Someone else would have to establish if Mondfeld has a reliable basis for making these claims. I think someone could give this a go on a few ropes and see if it looks good as discussed above.. -
Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
@shipman You are a far braver man than I am, but I guess I am exposing myself to unpopularity as well; but how bad can it get? I am fully with you when it comes to " how it looks ".. " Establishments " were established so that government contracts would have a basis for going forward, and being audited at a later time. Civilian contractors would also need to meet similar requirements. They didn't want to be billed for 2 inch cable when half inch cable would have got the job done.. The size of the rope depends on the job being done, and in many respects is intuitive; this applies to the blocks as well, however, the size of the rope will determine the size of the block.. I may be oversimplifying, but maybe someone else will have more to say. I think if the builders here take a good look at the models; good ones and bad ones, they will get a good sense of what looks right.. -
Formula for the thickness of rope on any scale ship
Gregory replied to flying_dutchman2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I'll have to look at my Mondfeldt later, but meanwhile here is something that may help. At a scale of 1:37.5 your scale rope will be easier to determine than some smaller scales. Most of the tables you find will be in inches rather than metric, so you may find yourself with another level of conversion, however, to determine the size ( diameter ) of the scale line I am working with I wrap the line around a dowel of about 8mm diameter for 10 turns. The diameter of the dowel doesn't matter in this case . Make sure the 10 turns are touching but not compressed. I then measure the length created by the 10 turns. You then dive the distance by ten, and you will have the diameter of your scale line. Example: 10 Turns of your scale line = 8.5mm. Divide by 10 = .85mm. The diameter of your line is .85mm = approx. .03 inches. Obviously, if you are using very small line, like for ratlines and lanyards, you may want to use 15 or twenty turns and divide by the appropriate number.. I use a calculator like this: Length calculator , for my conversions.. Depending on your resources, getting scale rope in the exact size you need may be a challenge. You will have more control if you are making your own rope, but it will still take a lot trial and error to get the sizes you are satisfied with. -
That looks like it is what you want! For application, depending on the surface, I keep it in a plastic squeeze bottle and put a little directly on the surface and spread it around with a soft cloth, eventually wiping off all the excess. For smaller parts, and stuff like masts and spars, I will brush it on and let it sit a few minutes before wiping off.
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Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Some models are good examples of how people can turn lousy kits into beautiful objects.. ( Eye of the beholder, and all that...) You could spend all day for the next ten years pointing out the shortcomings in thousands of build logs. I don't think that is what we are here for. It's not very becoming to come into someone's log and lecture them about the futility of their efforts based on your superior knowledge. I'm looking forward to the piece of art that Henry makes out of this salvaged model.. It has been really interesting so far. Perhaps a moderator can tidy up the log and get it back to the excellent subject it is.. -
Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Why? Forgive if I sound contentious, just continuing the discussion; but the worse that can happen is you have to re-glue, and it may have been a weak joint in need of strengthening.. -
I wouldn't worry about getting a perfect match beyond having the two pieces in a straight line. I assume there are going to be some trestle trees or other fittings covering up or hiding most of the joint. If you can, use a small wood dowel instead of the brass rod.. This will give you some play while setting up and a better joint when the glue dries. The seam does not have to be perfect or invisible. Once you build up the rest of the mast and add rigging it will not show. You can also do some fine tuning of the appearance after the glue dries. I often use this method to build up a mast from smaller pieces. Here is a mast I am working on but haven't glued yet.. The joint will not be visible when I am done. I hope this is what you are referring to.. If not will try to clarify.. Gregory
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Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
When I suggested stripper, it would be for small painted areas, with a lot of testing; say on an out of sight area, and definitely avoid glue joints. Paint thinner and even water, if left to soak, might compromise glue joints. -
Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Clean up is looking good. Take your time. You might consider using some paint stripper. Just make sure there is wood under the paint. Use sparingly and maybe several light applications instead of a heavy one that sits for while.. -
You may have to hand-make the shackles with wire and such, but Syren may have some blocks that would work.. There are several sizes of these types of blocks.. Internally Strapped There are several build logs where members are making detailed metal work.. Here is a good place to start.. Build logs for subjects built 1901 - Present Day Meanwhile I will be looking for some links for you.. Cornwall Model Boats has a lot of these types of fittings, but searching for them may take some maneuvering. Here is my search for shackles But other words might produce results for other fittings..
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Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
You might browse some of the other restorations to get ideas about cleaning techniques. Remove as many loose parts as you can and clean them individually. A mild soap solution is always a good start. Alcohol and q-tips are another option. For loosening old glue, you might try a hair dryer after you are sure there are no loose parts to go flying away. -
Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
Gregory replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I would remove it just to see if there is some hidden treasure inside..🙂 I would enjoy seeing updates as you restore this.. It looks like a nice decorator model with an antique look .. -
HM Cutter Alert 1777 by muratx - scale 1:48
Gregory replied to muratx's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Chris, Did you overlook this? -
Le Coureur by PC52 - Mamoli - 1:54
Gregory replied to PC52's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Here is an image where walrusguy ( skip down past the ship's boat ) used tissue paper to make hammocks.. Just roll up tissue paper. Wetting it may help to get a wrinkle effect.. You might use some light coloring if you don't wan't it to look too bright white..
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