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Frankie, I think there's something wrong with your link, as it comes up as 'page cannot be found' on my computer, however your clue to the site's existance led me to it and to the article to which Bruce originally referred, so thanks very much for that. The relevant part of the long contemporary description of the ship states, "She has bumkins for the four tacks, and swinging bumpkins for the clews of the mainsail, to spread the sail when going free in light winds. Her lower studding sails are triangular, consequently she has no swinging booms" Bruce, From that megre description I think I'd be inclined to fit the bumpkins, as you suggested, at the fore end of the main channels. The photo below is from a prior period, - the frigate Trincomalee of 1817 - and of a swinging boom - but it may be useful to you in showing one method of attaching the heel to the channel. John
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Sherry, His real secret is that the Admiral and the dog also sectretly help with the model making! John
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Looking forward to seeing your serving machine, Andy! Hmm, the weather must be odd; it's pretty cold over here too - oh, yeah, it's autumn, isn't it? John
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Hello Jakob, and a very warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. One of your problems may be that your planks are too wide for your scale. For true to scale plank widths, your planks should only be about 1.5 mm wide at as scale of 1:200. Have you read any of the articles on planking in the articles/downloads section? there are several articles on planking to choose from. You can find them here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-framing-and-planking-articles.php John
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She's looking very neat and tidy, Popeye, as befits a top class yacht. Good on yer, mate - nearly there! John
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Aha! That's interesting information, Bruce. If she traingular lower studding sails, then the bumpkins roughly where the lower booms would usually be would work well. John
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Delightful work, Danny! John
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Bruce, I've been having a look at Kipping, Biddlecombe and Lever and none of them mention your boom (that's easier to write than bumpkin)! I've also had another random thought. If the booms were where they would presumably have had most effect in spreading the mainsail when running free, then where were the lower studding sail booms? They should have been in the same area - if she carried them. John
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Frankie, Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong or to put you down. The information that you've provided on Bruce's thread is quite correct, but the source that he's found is talking about a bumpkin being used in a very different way to what we're used to, and is of an earlier period than Underhill's particular area of expertise. I find that the mid 1800's is a bit of a 'black hole' with regards to rigging as it was a time of very rapid development in rigging practice and is not nearly as well documented as the periods before and after. I think it would be really helpful to Bruce if you could use your expertise to help us to understand this apparently particular and unusual use of a bumpkin to spread the foot of a sail when running free. I, for one, have never heard of this use before. Do you know of any other examples? John
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Andy, I remember many moons ago our chief engineer sailing past our anchored ship in his dinghy, shaking his fist at us and yelling, "Those newfangled stink boats will never catch on." Strange people, engineers! John
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Lovely as usual, mate! John
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Bruce, Is it possible for you to give us the source of the information you found and the exact quote regarding the swinging bumpkins? That might help in tracking down other information. John
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Just catching up, Ilhan. She's really looking beautiful. The subdued colours you've used really set her off well. John
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So, as you say that your fleet has expanded by one, we are to assume that you still own the 'stink boat'? John
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Yes, Frankie, I agree with all that, but the contemporary article that Bruce is talking about specifically mentions swinging bumpkins for the clews of the mainsail - a horse of a very different colour! John
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Ho, hum, just another bulkhead! Sorry, Danny, but you make it look so easy to come up with that beautiful wotk. John
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Thanks for the input Frankie, but Bruce is looking for information on a different bumpkin - one used to spread the foot of the mainsail. It's a new one on me, and very interesting. John
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Pulley sheaves out of plastic hangers
Jim Lad replied to Walter Biles's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Sounds like a good idea, Walt! John -
Looks like you've made a nice job of her so far Rowand. John
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Bruse, She would be 'running free' when she wasn't obliged to brace up the yards - either running on a broad reach or with the wind right aft - that would add weight to the thought that the swinging bumpkins were back near the main mast to stretch the foot of the sail out as much as possible. John
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Ain't what it's made of, Mark, it's what it looks like! John
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Ouch! She looks like she hit an oceberg, Kats! Nice fix though! John
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Wefalck, o'm just catching up with your work after not looking in for a while. Your model is looking first class - a great job on bith the construction and painting. John
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Nice looking blanks, Mark. I hope you're going to use the one that you've marked - sort of a blood sacrifice for the model! John
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