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Drafsight v's Autocad LY2002
Jim Lad replied to michael mott's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
At least you can use CAD, Michael. I look at it and just get confused! John -
Michael, If you're going to sail her, is stainless steel wire a possibility? John
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Final details, Popeye! Don't rush the last bits, now! John
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Thanks, Michael - perhaps I should up the scale a bit to make it easier on the tiny pieces! John
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It's certainly no simple task you've taken on, Kats! By the way, without sails, you won't have to worry about any jib or staysail sheets - they'd be sent down with the sails. John
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Ummm, I thought you were cutting down on the number of builds you were doing at once, Popeye? John
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Kats, Let's go throiough them in some sort of order" Spanker Sheets - on the Cutty Sark these were double - ie one on each side of the ship - and were twofold purchases (2 double blocks). Head Outhaul etc. - This will be wire - not hemp. Runs from the sheave in the peak of the gaff to a lead block at the lower cap and then down to another single block, to which it is shackled. This is the upper block of a gun tackle (two single blocks) and the running part leads to a pin on the port rail. There is also an inhaul (you need to be able to furl the sail as well). Also of wire. The outer end if the inhaul could be shackled to the end of the outhaul if there are no sails. It then runs to a lead block at the foot of the gaff and then to a gun tackle as for the outhaul. The inhaul is also made fast on the port pin rail. With no sails rigged, remember that the outhaul/inhaul connection should be in by the mast! Foot outhaul etc. - For the Cutty Sark, the foot outhaul is rigged as you describe, however it would be more usual for it to lead down to the spider band. The foot inhaul is also made fast to a boom cleat on this ship. Vangs - On the Cutty Sark these were twofold purchases (2 double blocks) with the running part being made fast to cleats inside the bulwarks. Spencer Outhaul etc. - There seems to be very little information on the rigging of this sail, but it would be safe to rig an outhaul and inhaul as per the spanker. Vangs - These are also rigged as per the spanker, but the tackles may well have been lighter - a handy billy or gun tackle. The lower blocks of these tackles would be set up to eyes on deck, not to pins. That's the setup 'according to Hoyle', but you'll no doubt have to modify the rigging a bit to fit in with the confines of the kit structure. Have fun! John
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Of course you can make it work, Popeye! You're being drawn inexorably into the gaping maws of the (shudder) DARK SIDE!!!!!!!! jOHN
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Robbyn - call it a draw with your shrouds at the moment. The trick is to make sure that your lower deadeyes are really well secured (which one of mine turned out not to be ) and to use a spacer to get the distance between the deadeyes even - a length of hard wire bent at bothe nds is sufficient for this. Augie and Aldo - thanks for the engouragement gents Frankie - I agree that cutters must have been beasts to sail - and very uncomfortable - but many of these seamen literally grew up at sea. When last in the U.K. I was talking with some people from the Norfolk Wherry Trust about the sailing of those craft. They are very different craft, I know, but they informed me that they were sailed by a man and a boy. The crunch was that a 'man' could be as young as 14 years old and a 'boy' as young as 6! John
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Glad to see the wood secured by a clamp this time, Mark, and not by a bloody finger! John
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Kats, Both the spencer and spanker gaffs are standing and their spans are sucired aloft, not coming down in deck. The spencer span is thought to have originally been shackled to an eye on the after end of the main top (Nepean Longridge), but I don't know where it is on the ship currently. The spanker span is shackles to the after side of the mizzen topmast crosstrees. I'm not sure what you mean by the 'upper sheets' of the spanker gaff - do you mean the outhaul? The upper sheet blocks (on the boom) are shackled to the sheet iron under the boom and the lower blocks will be shackled to ringbolts on deck on either side - probably abreast the wheel box. The running parts are secured to cleats on the poop bulwarks port and starboard. John
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Congratulations on finishing a stunning piece of work, Karl. I can hardly wait to see what's coming next! John
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Gentlemen, this is a family show and you're starting to sail very close to the wind!! John
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Dave, You might find this drawing helpful. It's from "Plank on Frame Models Vol.1" by Harold Underhill - an excellent book, by the way! John
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Thanks very much, Sherry! John
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She's starting to look very 'submarine-like', Piet! John
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Very nicely fitted, Danny, but would the doors have had glass panels, or did you do that for effect? John
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Replica of the schooner 'Enterprize' under construction in Melbourne some years ago. In this view the spiling of the planks is very obvious. John
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Take it from one who's been there and who knows - please do that - it'll save a lot more of 'those' words! John
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Thank you all for your encouragement! I have to say it wasn't a nice feeling to see that pair of deadeyes just dangling in the air! The situation wasn't helped by one of the security blokes wandering past while I was trying to fix it and having a look. "What's happening?" "The pin somehow came out of this deadeye strap." "Hmmm. Obviously a totally incompetent model maker." Grins and walks off while contemplate the penalties for 'securitycide'. John
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Oops! First thing I did this morning when I got the Stag out at the museum was to start 'sweating up' the shrouds prior to finally securing them. Blow me down if the lower deadeye strap pin on number two starboard didn't carry away when I put a bit of pressure on it! I've no real idea what happened as it was fine last time I touched it, and when I went to try and drill the old pin out of the upper end of the chainplate there didn't seem to be a pin in there. Very strange!! Oh, well! A bit of fiddling with some copper wire for a strap and another piece for a pin and I was back in business. A little black paint and all was well again - just don't tell the foreman rigger or there'll be hell to pay! Once the shroud was back on and they were all tensioned correctly on both sides, I put in some time making a start on the ratlines. Hopefully I can finish them off next time I'm in. John
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Bruce, How wide was the main yard? If it was very wide then I'd imagine that the bumpkins would be somewhat like lower studding sail booms, that could be rigged out when needed. John
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Great stuff, Popeye - almost there!! John
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I've never seen it at the Town Hall. Danny. This model and the Supply used to be near the entrance of the old Tech. museum in Harris Street. John
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