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Thanks for the info HOP. Definitely have to think the rigging approach out. I'll have to IM you about how you rigged your model when the time comes. I'm planning on rigging stem to stern, and inside to outside.
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George, Nenad, Grant, Popeye, and Jules, Thanks for the kind words! It was neat to see all of the pieces coming together. It was also very useful to find issues (ladders that obstruct blocks, etc) as well as how in the world will I be able to belay certain pins and rig dead eyes. I know that lots of people have built this ship and have worked out the same issues. Since I want to rig it with sails, I've had to add the belaying pins into the side rails and build the poop pin rails, as well as add numerous blocks, eyes etc. Now it's trying to figure out how to rig it (I'm using Campbell's plans). some lines will have to go backwards I think, especially some of the lines that either originate or terminate on the masts spiders. Right now I'm trying to make sure that I don't paint myself into corners.
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
I think that the poop house looks good! I wouldn't sweat any of the heights. no one is going to look at them from the side of the bulwarks anyway. Most likely the viewer will be above looking down, like your photos. Also the deck houses are short. If you see someone standing beside them you can see how short they really are. I Like the card stock mock ups. I use the same process and also small sculptures of sailors: one figure 5 foot tall and one 6 foot tall in scale. lets me make sure of the heights. Real ships are kind of odd in the scales of items like doors and ladders. I've measure doors ranging from 3.5 foot to 6.6 feet on the same ship and ladders only half as wide as my body. if you didn't know the actual sizes, you could go crazy thinking that the heights of the doors were all the same. The Cutty is like this, the door sizes are drastically different between the deck houses and the heads. If you didn't know that you would think that something is wrong with the dimensions - either the deck houses were off or the heads, or the poop - could drive you crazy! Marc- 4,152 replies
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Michael, I was just catching up on the build. Beautiful work, great eye to detail! What a beautiful model. Marc
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Nenad, Your decks and dead eyes look great! Sorry i missed the garden party. I love BBQ! Marc- 4,152 replies
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I've been gone on travel. But before I left last weekend, I did a dry fitting of some of the deck details and took photos. I'm not planning on putting this stuff in place until I've done the rigging for that area. i'm planning on rigging from the stem to stern one mast at a time. I can't see how I would be able to belay the lines if the deck houses etc. were in place. No access or room. So here are some photos of the dry fit
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I rebuilt the forecastle pin rails. The rails were wide/deep to accomodate the size pins that matched what came with the original kit. I felt like the pins were too large for the type of lines and the rails were too deep. The starboard before I used alcohol to remove the rail The new And the port and the new The ladders were only used when in port. I'm thinking one the jib lines are belayed to the pins with the coils belayed, I can't see how I can put the ladders in place. We'll see Thanks Marc
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Michael, HOF, Nenad, and George, Thanks for the input and comments! I can't wait to start sewing on the bolt rope and the reef gaskets!
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keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Sorry to hear about your mother in law. I'm glad that your mother in law has you to help take care of her. I've been very fortunate to have loved ones help me when I needed it and I'm glad when I can help my family when they need me. It's just one of the wonderful aspects of having a family. As you take care of everyone else, don't forget to take care of yourself. You've had a hard year and need to stay healthy as well. Make sure you take time to lower your stress. All the best to you and your family! By the way the work on the ship looks great! Marc- 4,152 replies
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Thanks George, The sails aren't from a kit. They are aftermarket from Radek. Check out his site www.radekshipmodels.cz, He has sails for a lot of different ships and scales. Also, the price was very reasonable. I don't think that I will be weathering the sails. If it were a war ship, I probably would. But I think that the clean sails on the Cutty is appropriate. Maybe I'll change my mind. Also, I would be scared that I would end up ruining these beautiful sails. I would be devastated If I changed their dimensions! They fit perfectly. I'll try to take a shot of all of them laid out on a table when I get back in a week or two. I have go out on travel. I have been working on the ship and have photos. I'll post when I get back. Thanks
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Thanks for the feedback HOF. nice to know I wasn't alone on dealing with those dead-eye issues! More updates to posts that i made somewhere else in the site about sources of blocks and sails. I found a great source for both: www.radekshipmodels.cz The owner is Radek and he is great to deal with. Through emails, I've found him to be very concerned about the accuracy of his products and care for the customer and their models. He has shared with me several discoveries in his research for understanding more of the historical construction of the sails. He produces blocks (very clean and available at very small sizes) as well as his sails using CNC machines. I received my sails and they are great! The material is thin and the sewing is dead straight (where it should be). night and day difference between the Mantua sails that I purchased. This is the Mantua mizzen sails These are Radek's Difference is amazing Here are the mains The jibs A couple of detials Beautiful work!
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Nenad, Longridge provides more info. The forward companion way is 3 feet 9 inches wide and 6 feet 6 inches high. It extends aft for 4 feet 6 inches. I can't find where he provides measurements for the aft companion way.- 4,152 replies
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keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
That chimney moves around some! When it does appear in your photo it isn't in the same position as it is in woodget's photo and campbell's plans! Isn't the part on the deck in the see me photo the bottom of the poop rail where the buckets fit. If so they must have removed it and had it just sitting there while they were working -maybe?- 4,152 replies
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keelhauled replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi Nenad, The alterations to the aft deck house were done under the Portuguese when she was owned by J. Ferreira and Co. Longridge's book has her with this configuration. Her original front was removed and replaced with a taller entrance with doors on both sides. Also the rear entrance was added. I'm not suprised that they didn't restrore the original entrance. It wouldn't have been good for visitors - only one entrance/exit and not very tall, you would have had to keep the booby hatch portion open so people wouldn't hit their heads and I'm sure that it wasn't as water tight during rain as the solid top with side doors. My Mantua model plans have the current hatches for the aft deck house. Here are images from the plans Using known measurements versus the plan and using ratios, it appears that the height of the forward structure from deck to the top is approximately 6 - 6.5 feet high and approximately 3 - 3.5 feet wide. The aft structure is approximately 5 - 5.5 feet high from deck to top and approximately 2.5 feet wide. I'll check Longridge's book and see if he provides a better description of dimensions Hope this helps Marc- 4,152 replies
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Beautiful work Grant! like everyone has said, The joints are almost invisible. I can't see them without enlarging the photos and wouldn't have thought anything of them with out you pointing them out. Keep up the work, Master. Marc
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Congratulations on another beautiful build! Thank you for sharing and providing hours and hours of fun! marc
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You have beautiful children! You must be very proud Looks like you had a great time. Nice work on the windless pump. Really a great job. Marc- 4,152 replies
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Grant, I'm so sorry to hear your loss. As you can see by my avatar. My girl loves sitting in the sun as well. I'm just catching up. You build is great! Very impressive. Marc
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Beautiful work. Love the beauty of the wood and the mastery in the execution! Marc
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Working Comfortably on Upper Rigging
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Bryan, I'd love to see your table. Thanks Marc -
Harry, Thank you for the complement. You really did a beautiful job. I appreciate you going back and creating the build for us to enjoy and learn from. You have a keen eye for detail. Marc By the way, awesome case! really nice work!
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