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Can anyone tell me if there were in fact

1) individual copper plates, or

2) one long plate per side, or

3) no plates

on the top at the slotted holes for the deadeye shrouds?

Looking very impressive.

How well do the white couplers fit?

Have you tested  the glue to a sample of the PLA?

Thank you Druxey.

They are attached now.  If they are found to be a pain to rig I will remove them as you've suggested.

Mr. Beef W.

I find my scale allows me the option to include quite a bit.  And painting does hide more than just blemishes or errors.  I am growing quite fond of being able to see the little details... hope I feel the same way next summer 😉

Today I worked on my CAP  and the JEER CLEATS.

I followed TFFM for the JEER CLEATS, made in three pieces, glued and shaped, assuring there will be adequate clearance to install each sling.

If you look just forward of the BOLSTERS you will see a hint of the iron wear or bearing FID PLATE on the top of the TRESTLE TREE for the Top Mast Fid.

I almost forgot these.  I'll need to review the whole assembly to make sure I haven't forgotten anything else.

There are plates on both of the two trees.  The Fids were said to be Iron or Wood with holes at both ends so I envision them being secured to the mast with a single lanyard.

I followed a number of sources to complete the CAP.

The cap is made to look like two pieces bolted through the sides as described by Steels.

The most time consuming part was fitting the chamfered or bevelled head into a chamfered or bevelled hole, but I managed!

A nice snug fit.

The LEATHER COAT was added to both the top and underside of the CAP at the Top Mast hole.

The leather was simulated with natural brown shipping paper from Amazon, free with delivery... I keep a bit of everything!

Nails were simulated with a soft sharp pencil.

Once again everything looks better from a short distance.

I have not made my four eye bolts and they will need to be blackened before being installed under the CAP.

I have drilled the holes and added monofilament line in the top to simulate the ends of the Eye Bolts.

I'm not quite sure when I should do the eye bolts as it might be easier to do them with the blocks that are suspended from them.

Any suggestions from those who know!?!

The CAP is not glued down.  It will not be glued until the Top Mast is ready to be installed... quite some time from now.

Depending on how long and how your filament has been stored it my be brittle now so cannot be used.

PLA should be kept dry, stored in a zip lock air tight bag, with the air sucked out, and a dessicant baggy in it to keep it dry.

If the filament snaps when bending it over about 90° due to brittleness... being old... it is no good.

I use a drinking straw to suck the air out while sealing the bag, then put it back in the box it came in.

Thank you Peter.

As a novice myself I really appreciate connecting with other modelers to discover how others do stuff... and I am always happy to share.

There is no video demonstration.  The link below is to our local club web page BLOG section for May 2019.  John gave a live presentation and the blog (with a few photos) explains what he showed us.

https://modelshipwrightsofniagara.weebly.com/monthly-meeting-blog/archives/05-2019

So here is the test with weld bond glue to simulate bolt heads with a thank you to John Cairns of our local Niagara Region club for demonstrating this technique to create shapes on small parts (i.e. insignia like a royal cypher on a gun barrel)

Test wet and dry...

Here it is on the rudder ... up close and personal.  It looks much better from 12 inches away!

Rudder wet and dry and full view.

The great thing is I can wipe it off when wet and do it again, or when dry (hours or weeks later) I can easily add to it.

and to continue...

Main Caps

Length = 4 x the diameter of the Top Mast plus 3"

Breadth = 2 x the diameter of the Top Mast plus 2"

Depth = 4/9 x the Breadth

Fore Caps

Length = 4 x the diameter of the Top Mast plus 2"

Breadth = 2 x the diameter of the Top Mast plus 1"

Depth = 4/9 x the Breadth

Mizen Cap

Length = 4 x the diameter of the Top Mast plus 1"

Breadth = 2 x the diameter of the Top Mast

Depth = 4/9 x the Breadth

so I am ready to make my Main Cap.

I was called away... so to finish the last post:

Trestle Tree

Length = 1/4 the length of the Top Mast

Depth = 1/2 the Top Mast diameter

Thickness = 2/3 x the Depth

Undersides snaped (tapered) at each end

One end 1 and a 1/2 x the depth; other end 1 x the depth, within the ends

Snapes are lined to 1/2 the depth of the trestle tree and rounded to a sweep at the ends

The lower outer edge is chamfered the full length

The lower inner edge is chamfered to the cross trees

Chamfered on the undersides

The longest snapes are the foremost ends of the main trestle trees and the aft ends of the foremast trestle trees

(nothing mentioned about the mizzen mast!)

Cross Trees

Length = 1/3 the length of the Top Mast less 6"

Breadth = thickness of the Trestle Trees

Depth = 2/3 the Breadth

Tapered (snaped) at each end on the underside to 1/4 the length of the cross tree, from the end to 1/2 the depth, and round the ends with a sweep

For those interested... My main mast platform and trees were made from measuring images found on steels plate 3.

I searched high and low to find information on the size of the foremast and mizzen mast platform (tops).

On Saturday, at the Chicago NR&MS club virtual meeting I was told to look in Steels Mast Making Vol 1.

This was where I found the plates and I had looked before but could find nothing on the platform (tops).

It ends up I simply could "see the forest for the trees"!

There on page 25/26 was a description of the sizes of the timbers for the trees.  The platform sits on the trees and so would be made to suit them.

I was searching for the platform when I should have been looking for the trees!

Did a few different things yesterday.

Got two more frames glued, I'll be sanding the chocks down to be flush with the timbers, drilling the bolt holes and adding the bolts today.

Made my main mast top rail and stanchions.  I've seen support stanchions square with fancy turned parts, or square with flutes, or square with chamfers, or round iron bars.  All had iron grips at the top that the wooden rail slipped into.  I decided to do the latter.  I used bamboo and a draw plate to get them down to size.  The rail grips were blackened bond paper glued to the three sides (not the top).  The stanchions were also blackened with black permanent marker.   Both the platform and rail were drilled.  I sharpened the top end of each stanchion with my tiny mechanical pencil lead sharpener so they would poke into the glued drilled pocket on the underside of the rail, and put a dab of glue on the foot end of the stanchion.  They were assembled and held for the longest time until the glue held up.

The tops are not glued to the trees in the above picture.  I won't be doing that for some time yet.

I'll be marking the mast bolt locations, drilling, and adding the bolts to the mast assembly today (monofilament fishing line).

I then pulled out my rudder that I'd made some time ago and added pintles and banding to it.  Once again using blackened bond paper.

I used 0.04" copper wire for the pintles.  Drilled snug fit holes in the forward face of the rudder just above the pintle/gudgeon pockets (where the banding goes).  Filed a point on one end of the wire (nail like) and inserted it (pointed end) into the  rudder.  Gave it a few gentle knocks with a tack hammer to set it, then bent it over with miniature pliers.  These were blacked with permanent marker.  The banding was added which covers the hole.

Today I will do a test to add faux bolt heads with drops of Weld Bond glue applied with a pointed applicator to the blackened paper.  As it dries clear I imagine the black colour will come through but a "bolt head bump" will be visible.  I will post photos after the job is done.

From what I've learnt so far (liquid) resin which involves dipping into a liquid bath requires washing and rinsing.  PVA filaments do not need to be washed or rinsed.

OMG

That was hiding in your closet?

I've got to go check mine!   😁

I haven't followed plastic models, but I think I'll join you.

This looks interesting.

Over 20 hours!

very nice.

8 hours of printing concerns me as  I've had failures occur part way through.  I hope you never experience those.

My intention was to not paint anything but possibly the Wales, Figurehead, and a few other embellishments.

I guess we will need to keep that door cracked open!

🤔

Very nice prints!  BZ

I see the section is a good thickness, I imagined thinner and thought you might have a problem.

Should be easy to glue the pieces but I would test your plastic glue on some scrap if you've not used it on PLA before as it might melt the part.  That was my experience.  I ended up using a 2 part epoxy.

I found the PLA a pain to finish (sand smooth).  They say a wet sand paper should be used.  Have you done this before?

Can't wait to see this come together.

I am very interested in your Corvette build.

May I ask....

Are you using PLA material in this printer.

What size nozzle will you be using?

How thick is the hull?

I am a novice 3D printer.  Using an JG Aurora A5 3D printer with a full set of nozzles.

I tried printing 1:64 scale 18th century gun barrels with black PLA filament, and gun carriages with PLA/Wood filament.  The barrels were impossible but the carriages were a success.  I had a friend from our local club print my barrels in his liquid resin printer.

I had success with a 1:12 scale gun barrel.

Alan

Below is a photo of the holes and slots done.

The fore part of the deck is not quite as pretty as I had hoped for as I moved two battens and alcohol swabbing and scraping to remove the glue residue didn't quite clean up as nicely as I had imagined it would.

I'll get the aft railing done next and attempt a repair up forward.

Yes.

I read that in TFFM and after rethinking drilled 23 holes.

Main mast platform shroud deadeye slots.

As no sources seem to agree and having chewed this over for days, and looking at it logically, I've made a decision.

Four.  Exactly what Steels tables read.

I looked at the distance the deadeyes were spaced between, then divided this by 3, 4 and 5 to get the possible interval distance for 4, 5 and 6 deadeyes.

I then subtracted the size of the deadeye to get the physical gap dimension between deadeyes.

Thought about how much space a sailor might need to climb up.

Took my pencil template and penciled in the location of 4, 5 and 6 deadeyes.

How did they relate to the location of my stiffening battens.

Considered how a greater number of shrouds would reduce the footing clearance at the dead end of the shrouds.  This last bit was brought to my attention by a member of our local club as I reviewed my thought process with him.

Six was too much.  Five was a possibility.  Four ticked all the boxes.

Now I need to figure out the number of holes for the crowsfeet.

I've seen 20 and 18 for this platform... and just now 30!

I've decided on 18 simply because when laid out the spacing works and the look of it is pleasing.

I'll be drilling these holes and making my stanchions now.

I did that when I saw the word from TFFM

😮   😉

Seen this word in the TFFM.

We called it a cut splice.

I'd also noted in Steels what the "valley" between twisted strands was called.

I'm too much of a gentleman (in my own mind) to repeat the word in public or on a forum.

Those crazy sailors.

I see on the original rigging warrant for HMS Monarch (1765), a 3rd rate, 74 guns, main top mast had 6 pairs of shrouds and 12 dead eyes (both hand written in the columns).

YIKES 😮