michael mott Posted May 5, 2016 #61 Posted May 5, 2016 Hi Jim I just found your thread and what a wonderful project, I used to work at a science centre and planetarium in Edmonton, where special projectors were custom built before they converted to a digital projector. I spent many hours working out the gears for a Jupiter only Orrery with all its moons. I never got farther than doing the gear ratios. I love the look of your one. Michael popeye the sailor, jim_smits, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
jim_smits Posted August 3, 2016 Author #62 Posted August 3, 2016 Hi, I'm rapidly nearing the end of the build now. Had a two months of magazines delivered in one go and this has brought to within one issue of completion. All the planets/dwarf planets/minor planets are now in place with the final addition of Eris after Pluto. Also received the motor and gearing system, brass casing and three legs. The only piece now missing is the adapter and plug socket to actually get the unit powered up. It looks cracking though at the moment even when it isn't moving. I will probably disassemble the entire thing and tweak fitting of the plastic washers and gears to ensure smooth operation. Once I have received the adapter in a week or two I ill upload a video for your viewing pleasure. pshrynk, RichardG, GrandpaPhil and 18 others 21 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo
bhermann Posted August 4, 2016 #63 Posted August 4, 2016 Sweet - I can't wait to see the operating model. Very nice indeed. Bob popeye the sailor, Canute, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd
Landlocked123 Posted August 20, 2016 #64 Posted August 20, 2016 Hi Jim, You're Orrery is beautiful. Do you know if anyone will be selling it as a kit? Thanks. Best, John Omega1234, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you”
druxey Posted August 20, 2016 #65 Posted August 20, 2016 That orrery looks brilliant, Jim. I hope you will add a case to protect the mechanism. Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
jim_smits Posted August 21, 2016 Author #66 Posted August 21, 2016 Thanks for likes everyone. I'll post a video tomorrow of it working, just go back from my stag. Also just received the first new parts for the second model in the series, which is a luminary and looks excellent. John - not sure where you are but often kits are sold on eBay in partial or complete sets. Druxey - it will eventually have its own dedicated shelf put up but I don't think a case will be made as the circumference of the model is enormous! Omega1234, Canute, cog and 3 others 6 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo
bhermann Posted August 22, 2016 #67 Posted August 22, 2016 Thanks for likes everyone. I'll post a video tomorrow of it working, just go back from my stag. Also just received the first new parts for the second model in the series, which is a luminary and looks excellent. John - not sure where you are but often kits are sold on eBay in partial or complete sets. Druxey - it will eventually have its own dedicated shelf put up but I don't think a case will be made as the circumference of the model is enormous! There's a second model in the series? They are killing me! Looking forward to seeing the video. Bob popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd
jim_smits Posted August 23, 2016 Author #68 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Sorry for the minor tease but no video for a couple of days. I stripped the entire model to sort out any loose fittings and my cheap nasty Allen key stripped slightly and so I can't fit the planet arms back on. Most of the mechanism can be made with the decent screwdriver Allen and torx adapters that I have but they are simply to short and fat to reach the inner mechanism to fit the planets. Mail order on its way...... Edited August 23, 2016 by jim_smits druxey, Omega1234, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo
jim_smits Posted August 23, 2016 Author #69 Posted August 23, 2016 In the meantime here is a picture of the second model that will be made. Canute, Omega1234, druxey and 5 others 8 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo
cog Posted August 23, 2016 #70 Posted August 23, 2016 That's an interesting object, Jim. Should be fun to build, and get it working!! Omega1234, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
jim_smits Posted September 1, 2016 Author #71 Posted September 1, 2016 Finally received a replacement allan key to refit the planetary arms. Pugged the orrery into its power source and presto! www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRJ2Gw2hY8g michael mott, cog, bhermann and 7 others 10 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo
bhermann Posted September 2, 2016 #72 Posted September 2, 2016 Very nice, Jim. Love watching the inner planets and Moon whipping around while the outer planets plod through their orbits. Nice build of an interesting project! Bob Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd
druxey Posted September 2, 2016 #73 Posted September 2, 2016 Very satisfying to watch! Well done. Canute, Omega1234, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Omega1234 Posted September 3, 2016 #74 Posted September 3, 2016 Hi Jim Thanks for sharing the vid. It was marvellous to watch! Cheers Patrick Canute, popeye the sailor, bhermann and 1 other 4 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
John Levine Posted February 21, 2021 #75 Posted February 21, 2021 Hi Jim, I know This is an old topic here, but I found it when Googling for help with a problem I’m having in the first stages: It seems I’ve gotten things assembled properly, but there is NO WAY to get the Venus gear “sandwich” to go on as directed. If I turn it upside down, it engages with the gear above it. You can see what I mean in the attached photos. Any help would be greatly appreciated! thank you, John yvesvidal, Jack12477, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote
michael mott Posted February 24, 2021 #76 Posted February 24, 2021 The first picture looks correct from a gear meshing point of view, I am not sure what the problem is? Michael popeye the sailor, Egilman, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
John Levine Posted February 24, 2021 #77 Posted February 24, 2021 That’s the thing. In the top picture, the “gear sandwich” is upside down. The larger of the two gears is what is supposed to mesh with the smaller gear above it. Please understand that the photos were taken with the entire unit upside down. Perhaps that clears it up? Or makes it more confusing? 😉 In the second two pictures, the gear sandwich is placed on the central shaft correctly, and, as you can see, they do not mesh. I have checked with other photos of the assembled orrery, and rechecked the instructions and all of the steps to get to this stage, and I can’t figure it out. Very frustrating. I’m going to contact Eaglemoss, I think. Thanks for having a look and replying. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted February 24, 2021 #78 Posted February 24, 2021 Want to see an ancient Greek Solar System earth-centered model? Try Googling the Antikythera Mechanism and see what comes up. There have been reproductions of this incredible device that account for all observed lunar and planetary motions as seen from Earth. The main 'flaw' is that the models accuracy for Mars can be off at times by as much as 30 degrees, The other planets are very close and the moon is 'spot on'. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
Egilman Posted February 24, 2021 #79 Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, John Levine said: That’s the thing. In the top picture, the “gear sandwich” is upside down. The larger of the two gears is what is supposed to mesh with the smaller gear above it. Please understand that the photos were taken with the entire unit upside down. Perhaps that clears it up? Or makes it more confusing? 😉 In the second two pictures, the gear sandwich is placed on the central shaft correctly, and, as you can see, they do not mesh. I have checked with other photos of the assembled orrery, and rechecked the instructions and all of the steps to get to this stage, and I can’t figure it out. Very frustrating. I’m going to contact Eaglemoss, I think. Thanks for having a look and replying. I went back in this thread to the point where he mounted the "Venus" drive parts... it appears to me that they mount to a large gear/disk that provides the earth drive before they mount to the shaft.... Never having ever seen this before that's all I've got...... Of course I have no way of knowing if he's showing the complete steps either..... EG popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
gjdale Posted February 24, 2021 #80 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) John, Do you have the complete instructions for this? I ask because I too have built this Orrery and had no difficulty with getting things to go together correctly. If you do not have them, I can send you a PDF copy of them. Edited February 24, 2021 by gjdale Egilman, Blackreed, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
John Levine Posted March 3, 2021 #81 Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Hi Folks, Thanks again for looking, and your responses thus far! I have taken new, correctly oriented photos, which I hope will articulate the problem I’m having a bit better. Photos #1, #2, and #3 are the spreads of the instructions provided in issues #1, #5, and #8. I am stuck at Step #2 in photo #2. If you peruse the illustrations on that spread, and photo #4 (“Detail of Sun, Mercury, Venus & Earth”), you can see that the larger 41-tooth gear disk of the Venus gear set is supposed to engage with the small 19-tooth gear disk on the underside of the Mercury gear arm (above it). Photos #5 through #9 are just different views of my assembly, with the Venus gear set placed correctly on the central column. The Venus gear set has been placed upside down on the central column in Photo #10, simply to show the peculiarity of the smaller 39-tooth gear disk’s ability to mesh perfectly with the 19-tooth gear disk. The first three pics are the only instructions I’ve gotten with the parts of the Orrery (Issues #1, #5, and #8) Do you have other, more complete PDF instructions, gjdale? I really don’t see how more detailed directions would help. I’ve counted the teeth on all the gear disks. It’s quite baffling! <shrug> Lastly, I just wanted to give Jim a “thumbs up” for the shoe polish suggestion, to colour the etched markings on the base plate. I’m going to use Kiwi Cordovan, since burgundy is a favorite colour of mine, and will nicely compliment the bright brass finish of the engraved plates! So, there it is! I apologize for this being a bit long-winded! Again, any thoughts and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! I’m really quite excited to just “get on with it!” Jim’s finished piece is beautiful! I can’t wait to have my own! Thanks again, all! John Photo #1 Edited March 3, 2021 by John Levine mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote
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