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On 7/12/2017 at 5:36 AM, 8sillones said:

Another pics. Works in May

Question? your work is beyond reproach and it is obvious your a master modeler. I've had this question with many other models on the ships decorations (yours are fantastic). When mounted they cover moldings on all I have seen please explain why the moldings or planks are not inletted so it does not appear to have open gaps? Please this is no way criticism just curiosity.

 

John

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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38 minutes ago, John Allen said:

Question? your work is beyond reproach and it is obvious your a master modeler. I've had this question with many other models on the ships decorations (yours are fantastic). When mounted they cover moldings on all I have seen please explain why the moldings or planks are not inletted so it does not appear to have open gaps? Please this is no way criticism just curiosity.

 

John

Thanks for your interest.
The truth is that I do not quite understand what you mean. Could you clarify it? Thank you

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Your is not the only model I have seen this on I want to be educated on the procedure of placing decorations. You have carved some beautiful rings painted gold when placed on your ship they appear to be put atop moldings, my question is should the molding be cut at either end so the medallions lay totally flat against the hull instead of on top of molding or planks. I will be doing some simple carving soon and want to be correct:) Please I am just curious and this in no way should be taken as criticism

John Allen

 

Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli

On deck

USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build

 

Finished

Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine  Model Co. 


 

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Hi John,

 

I scanned some pics in the net and in my books, and I thinkg the rings should be placed against the aouter hull, so the wales and profiles are to be inletted in the mouldings.

So: in principle no open space behind te mouldings. (but perhaps I'm wrong, as I am by no means an expert on English ships)

 

Jan

 

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Any decorative work would have been hollowed to fit over the wales: these strengthening strakes would not be cut into and weakened. However, you are correct that there would not be spaces between these pieces.

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Magnificent internal detail and carvings. Very impressive.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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Hi John - 

 

Truly magnificent carvings and interior framing.  I am enjoying reading your build log very much.

 

I agree with Druxey and Jan that the carvings should be set back against the hull.  Other decorative moldings can be cut around the wreaths, but the wales and other structural members should not be cut.  The wreaths should have channels cut into their backs so they set back against the hull.

 

The only other thing that catches my eye are the deck beams of the poop deck.  I think they may have too much camber (round up).  They look much more arched than I see in Dr. McCardle's book.  Hopefully they can be carefully removed and replaced.

 

Otherwise, just wonderful work.

 

Dan

 

Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser

 

Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS OneidaSwan 42 racing yacht  Queen Anne's Revenge (1710) SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914),  James B Colgate (1892),  POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration

 

Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas

 

"Take big bites.  Moderation is for monks."  Robert A. Heinlein

 

 

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What an extraordinary carving job. Verry impressive!

Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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A very beautiful ornamentation and decoration 8sillones,

 

a real "gem of the seas" your HMS Sussex

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Just amazing and beautiful work. I am in awe.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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