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On 3/7/2021 at 10:50 AM, Backer said:

Van de Velde (Peter) was born in 1654. Suppose he only started painting ships when he was about 20 years old, then we are in 1674.

Willem van de Velde (father) was born in 1611 and died in 1693. The son was born in 1633 and died in 1707.

Peter van de Velde was born in Flanders and lived from 1634 till 1723/4.

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On 4/24/2021 at 2:42 PM, Hubac's Historian said:

Ondras, you are moving at a fast and furious clip, without any sacrifice in quality.  I love all the detail - particularly the scarfing of the stem - NICE!  Thank you for bringing to my attention this Barent’s ship replica project.  I will look that up - looks fascinating.

 

I’m not sure what to say about the pinrail issue on early 17th century vessels, other than perhaps Vasa is your best guide.  When in doubt, personally, I like to fall back on the Van de Veldes for the clarity of their drawings. 

 

On 4/24/2021 at 4:17 PM, Ab Hoving said:

Willem van de Velde (father) was born in 1611 and died in 1693. The son was born in 1633 and died in 1707.

Peter van de Velde was born in Flanders and lived from 1634 till 1723/4.

 

Thank you. I already know that a ship from this period will not have many credible sources and images. But I enjoy the building!:rolleyes:

 

So far, I've just waxed the balcony..

 

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I prepared beams for catheads. I will be the first to make the most demanding. Faces on foreheads..:default_wallbash: The first is rough. He starts to smile..:D

 

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Ondras.

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Greetings and thank you!!!:)

 

The production of ornaments began ... My plan was to first try to sculpt the wood and, if that didn't work, to create the sculptures out of clay.
I started with wood and ....... it works.:36:

 

Catheads foreheads first created. Here's the face.

 

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And when it worked, I continued with the already prepared Chesstree posts..

 

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Ondras.

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Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thanks for the like.:imNotWorthy:

 

Catheads done..:36:

 

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Not everything went well, I had to create a new face ..:default_wallbash:

 

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Almost half of the ornaments placed on the ship ..

 

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I wonder if I will shade the faces. Features would stand out ..:stunned:

Ondras.

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Catheads supported by knees..

 

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And I'm starting to prepare a lion statue ... made of hard beech wood..

 

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Just start shaping..:unsure:💥

 

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Ondras.

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I finally found time to shape a lion. I studied carving a bit, a little lion anatomy. And he started.
Workplace supplemented with photos of a Lion replica Batavia..:stunned:

 

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Beech is probably not an ideal wood for carving, but the figure will be painted, so maybe it doesn't matter so much. I had no other hardwood.

Gradual shaping of anatomy by milling machine..⚒️

 

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There will still be a lot of shaping, but the proportions fit..🤯

 

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Ondras.

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Ab,

Your step by step carving photos are great.   I love my micro chisels, but prefer to start with carving burrs as you show, then get the tiny details with the chisels.    I FINALLY purchased a mill and have seen so much on your build where it can be used. 

Thanks for sharing.

Allan

 

 

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I'm not familiar with beech (we don't have many beech trees in Oz). I use pear wood and have good results. But the best is supposed to be boxwood - I can't say from personal experience because I've never used it.

 

Having said all that, you're doing very well with your lion, so I don't think there's a problem anyway.

 

Steven

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Thank you very much Allan and Steven.:imNotWorthy:

 

The lion has a shape..

 

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..in base color..

 

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..polished, now I have to fine-tune shapes and details..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thank you very much Patrick and Gary. Thanks for the like..:imNotWorthy:

 

The fight with the lion is still ongoing. Gradually in several steps the shape is rounded and slimmed ..

 

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Now comes the spray with a primer, followed by red..🎨

 

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And a test on a ship..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thank you very much Patrick..:imNotWorthy:

 

The words of a sculptor I read still ring in my ears. He said he had not created the statue, it was inside the block he was working on. Just removed the excess material ...😇 I tried to create even more details, now it's done ..👌

 

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Basic white spray..

 

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And now red..🎨

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Beautiful carving.  I do like the words of the sculptor about just removing the excess material.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Those words on sculpture are attributed to Buonarotti -  “The sculpture is already complete within the marble block, before I start my work. It is already there, I just have to chisel away the superfluous material.”  Most know him more by his first name, Michelangelo.   

Allan

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Thank you all..!!:imNotWorthy::imNotWorthy:

 

I sprayed red. Varnish for that. Next in line will be a retouch to highlight the details..

 

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Glued Knee of the head..

 

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Added clinkbout ..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thanks for the like.:imNotWorthy:

 

I decided to keep the lion statue only in red, that's how I found it..😎

 

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historical picture..

 

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model R.L. from the Gdańsk Museum..

 

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replica Duyfken..

 

I finished the head deck frame. Again, I came across different dimensions of the drawing of a lion statue on the plan sheets ..😵

 

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I had to lower the lion's back..

 

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This is the size of a lion statue ..

 

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Now the statue will fit under the head deck..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I work on the sides of the head deck..

 

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The ship gained a new image..🎨

 

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Ondras.

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Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thank you very much Steve and Patrick!!:imNotWorthy: Thanks for the like..

 

I fixed an old bug where the Catheads pulleys were not in a vertical position..

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Now I'm creating a head deck grate..

 

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Head deck side pillars..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thanks for the like..:imNotWorthy:

 

Grate head deck pinned pins 0.5 mm..

 

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Sidewalls glued ..

 

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I'm creating a decorative head deck ..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
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After a really long break caused by many "circumstances", I start working on the galion again..

 

Galion spikes..

 

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Another will be the production of gallon railings..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
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I continue on the galion. Making head rails...

 

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The years of wood betrayed me while sanding. It could be glued ..😵

 

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I carefully place ..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

Member of the organizing clubhttps://wchs-c-2023.klom-admiral.cz/en

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1 minute ago, Ondras71 said:

I continue on the galion. Making head rails...

 

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The years of wood betrayed me while sanding. It could be glued ..😵

 

1692975190_litagalionu(headrails)(6).JPG.d8b54979f25b93342affd745f0986e86.JPG

 

I carefully place ..

 

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I wish everyone a lot of success until the new year 2022, peace of mind modeling and especially health!

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

Member of the organizing clubhttps://wchs-c-2023.klom-admiral.cz/en

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