maggsl_01 Posted October 18, 2014 Share #1381 Posted October 18, 2014 Hi Matti... all the mates said it before: A GREAT Job on the Wasa so far. The planking and now the ratlines - you are a master of this work. And I really love the Kind of photography you do on your ship. The natural light gives he hull a more realistic view than any artifical light can do. Cheerio my friend Max NAZGÛL and dragzz 2 Quote Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share #1382 Posted October 18, 2014 Thank you very much dragzz and Max for the kind words! I now painted the ratlines with flat varnish, it gave them a flat rope look again. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted October 18, 2014 Share #1383 Posted October 18, 2014 Nice job Matti... Frank NAZGÛL 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted October 19, 2014 Share #1384 Posted October 19, 2014 Hi Matti I'm not going to heap praise on you mate, it's all been said and it's justified to. Your eyeball didn't let you down did it, I tell you, if eyes were transferable I'd be the first in the in line. Keep it up mate your doing a superb job. Be Good mobbsie NAZGÛL 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyguy Posted October 19, 2014 Share #1385 Posted October 19, 2014 Hi Matti I am half way through the planking of my Vasa and have realised that I have no idea where or how I am going to fit the gunports or dummy cannons. My instructions are so vague that they are not mentioned can you help me please ? Andy NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share #1386 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Thank you so much Frank, Lawrence and mobbsie! Andy, the gunports location is on the big 1:1 plan. If you like me want to try to make their locations more wonky and irregular, look at reference off the real ship, the official plans and of the 1:10. If I remember correctly the BB has a few gunports missing on their setup. Will you replace the kits fake gunports with open ones? (Recommended) /Matti Edited October 19, 2014 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyguy Posted October 19, 2014 Share #1387 Posted October 19, 2014 Thanks Matti I am definitely going to open the gunports and fit dummy barrels I wish I had thought about it before I planked I now have to find a way of fitting them soe careful measuring to avoid the bulkheads and try to fit some sort of support Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share #1388 Posted October 19, 2014 Glad to help Andy! What's your plan for the inside of the gunports? /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyguy Posted October 19, 2014 Share #1389 Posted October 19, 2014 I haven't thought about that yet I will probably make small boxes that will line the gunports with a solid back to fix the cannons to Any other ideas ? I am open to suggestions Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share #1390 Posted October 19, 2014 I did the "interior" pre planking. Check out Karleops build, he also have open gunports. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share #1391 Posted October 21, 2014 Hey Law! I'm doing the mainmast ratlines on the portside. Thanks for checking the build buddy! /Matti canoe21 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 21, 2014 Share #1392 Posted October 21, 2014 nice progress Matti, very nice shroud work. I'll look forward to your next update......sounds like your really busy! NAZGÛL 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share #1393 Posted October 21, 2014 Cheers pops! Yeah, well work's hectic now, and doing the ratlines are relaxing to do. I thought it would be tedious as there are so many knots, but when one line is done, it's done. After applying some varnish that is. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar3kl Posted October 22, 2014 Share #1394 Posted October 22, 2014 I recall from my previous model 14 odd years ago that the ratlines became a meditative experience after a while. I suspect my fingers still remember how to do a clove hitch. Yours look very nice - I agree arranging them by eye is the way to go. mark maggsl_01 and NAZGÛL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsl_01 Posted October 22, 2014 Share #1395 Posted October 22, 2014 Hi... I agree completely. When I did my first model, the Half Moon, I wanted to be as exact as possible. So I tried various methods to get them ratline in a line. At least I did it also just by eye - and was not dissapointed by the result. And yes - its some kind of medidation Cheerio Max NAZGÛL 1 Quote Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottRC Posted October 22, 2014 Share #1396 Posted October 22, 2014 Matti, Just checking in on your progress and all I can say is that it is beautiful. Scott NAZGÛL 1 Quote Current Builds: Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch Marine Models USF Essex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share #1397 Posted October 22, 2014 Thanks guys! I've had less time to work on the ratlines, but I seem to have picked up speed so I'm soon getting done with the other side of the main mast. So much more enjoyable part of the build compaired to what I thought before starting. Cheers for all the likes! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share #1398 Posted October 23, 2014 Sorry to hijack into that log, but I found an interesting post. Wasa museum is building a small section of the hull, historically correct. It is under construction, and the latest info is here: http://www.vasamuseet.se/sv/Skeppet/Skeppsbloggen/Hakan-Altrock/Nyanser-av-gratt/ Looking forward to see it! Here they shoot a replica cannon at that section. Beautyful stuff! http://www.svtplay.se/klipp/2419510/efter-lang-vantan-vasakanonen-avfyras /Matti mtaylor and themadchemist 2 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted October 23, 2014 Share #1399 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I wonder how they patched that holes while being in the sea.. How the ship looked like after a first battle. And here is a good slo-mo of the hull damage: Edited October 23, 2014 by Mike Y mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Vivian Galad and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted October 23, 2014 Share #1400 Posted October 23, 2014 Its no wonder that wood splinters killed more sailors then lead. Amazing slow-mo. I can not even imagine the fear of living through such battles. The Chaos of battle must have been horrendous. Research like this really helps envision what it must have been like, to a point. NAZGÛL, CaptainSteve and Vivian Galad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share #1401 Posted October 23, 2014 Yeah, life must have been hard, and all the diseases that killed huge numbers... Repairs must have been difficult. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 23, 2014 Share #1402 Posted October 23, 2014 I don't have the site marked but there's a film of the Niagara (mockup) being shot at with a carronade and using Styrofoam dummies. The damage from splinters is incredible. edit: found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfsuIaTU92Y Mike Y, CaptainSteve and NAZGÛL 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share #1403 Posted October 24, 2014 Nice vid Mark! I remember that Mythbusters did their own test like this. And after some googling here is a compilation of their test: http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery/6542-mythbusters-pirate-pig-splinter-test-video.htm And yeah the pigs makes it all feel... well bad taste. But if I remember correctly their experiment had the right velocity and thickness of wood, and the pigs does show how a human would be affected by the hit pretty well. /Matti CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clipper Posted October 28, 2014 Share #1404 Posted October 28, 2014 Hi Matti, nice progress on the rigging mate. Are you going to put a lantern at the stern? I have seen other manufacturers have included one with their kits but is there any evidence to support this Tony NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share #1405 Posted October 29, 2014 Cheers Lawrence and Tony! I don't plan to use the lantern and didn't prepaire for any lighting for it. We can't know how one would look, but after seing lanterns on Vasa models like Marks, I got an urge to do one so I may change my mind later on. /Matti canoe21, clipper and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share #1406 Posted October 30, 2014 Hey all, here is an update finally. I've done the other side of the mainmast and made the portside of the mizzen mast. I found it difficult to imitate the sagging curves of the original, but it was easier on the mizzen as the shrouds are angled straight up. First a reference pic I took at the museum: /Matti canoe21, mtaylor, Farbror Fartyg and 18 others 21 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted October 30, 2014 Share #1407 Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Did you consider to use a mixture of the white wood glue with water (50/50%) and then fix each knot with a small drop of this mixture using a small old brush consider that CA might break after several years and this is a very hard glue connection which can also break after touching once you are finished. this is my experience as well from several experienced builders in the Netherlands, we try to not use CA on shipmodels except when all other glues cannot be used I am using CA only to make a needle from the beginning of a rope so this makes it a lot easier to have the rope in small openings from blocks etc. What I have used with excellent results is flat clear varnish. It dries flat, invisible, no shiny spots as with CA and is just strong enough to do the job. Edited October 30, 2014 by Ulises Victoria NAZGÛL 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted October 30, 2014 Share #1408 Posted October 30, 2014 As always the photos are as much a part of the beauty as the Wasan herself. The last 2 photos of the port bow and stern are perfectly angled for maximum effect of the sculpture viewing and the Wasan's great tumblehome shape that is so strikingly beautiful. The photo of the rat-lined shrouds reaching to the sky, makes me think of a favorite Zeppelin tune... and she's climbing a stairway to heaven.... Beautiful work. Just stunning! NAZGÛL, mtaylor and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 30, 2014 Share #1409 Posted October 30, 2014 Excellent job Matti! I read on the Vasa forum that the shrouds may need to be configured differently according to Fred at the museum. Are you going to continue with yours or wait until the rigging book comes out? Have you heard any news as to when the book is due out? /Mark NAZGÛL 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted October 30, 2014 Share #1410 Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Hey all, here is an update finally. I've done the other side of the mainmast and made the portside of the mizzen mast. I found it difficult to imitate the sagging curves of the original, but it was easier on the mizzen as the shrouds are angled straight up. First a reference pic I took at the museum: What a wonderful comparison! Love it, Daniel Edited October 30, 2014 by dafi NAZGÛL 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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