Zeesboot by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:24 - wooden fishing vessel c. 1876 - small

[Mirabell61]

Status :

I shortened the side deck supports and fitted the inner cockpit liner. Some days ago I found these openable porthole from brass castings, they will suit the cabin walls above deck...

 

Nils

 

I`m using beechwood flexible strip 8 x 1,5 mm for this job, it easily follows the bending curve, without breaking

 

even narrow bends are no problem, large diam. 15 mm, lid with glassing 12 mm

 

3 part brass casting porthole

 

 

here the modified laundry pegs come handy again

 

 

 

cockpit space now increased

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Mirabell61

[Peter Cane]

Nils.

I like the beech liner.

It sets it all off.

The boat is starting to look busy now which is all good news.

I like the sliding hatch within its brass runners.

Neat job there.

Re the brass cast port holes.

If I were to say I liked them, I would be a hypocrite.

So I must be honest with you.

I do not like them.

I like the principle of brass port holes and have seen some lovely examples of turned port holes in brass that look splendid.

The ones I saw are made by a guy in the UK who has all the CNC machines to do them.

He is reasonably priced as well.

They are non opening .

You have spent so much time,thought, energy and expert modelling techniques on this wonderful model I think those particular port holes are not up to your standards!

Oh dear...i think i have just lost a friend by telling the truth about what i think?

Pete

[G.L.]

I do not quite agree with Peter. I suppose that you prefer to use self-made portholes rather than bought ones, Nils. Brings me to my question: Did you cast yourself the portholes?

[Mirabell61]

Hello Pete and Geert,

 

in fact these are from Ebay bought ones.... When ordering them from a picture and the description, they looked like something real special, as openable glassed, and cast ones, and like Geert I found them atractive. After reception I was a bit disappointed though, due to the not so good quality and appearance. There I`m with Pete and I thank you Pete for the open opinion and comment on them. (do`nt worry, I love honest comments)

I trust that the porthole would have been made by investment castings. The positive is, that I could purchase only the 3 of them as needed. There wo`nt be portholes on the port side of the cabin, as there will be an outcut for viewing inside it.

Because I`m myself not very happy with them I will probably replace them by turned brass ones, with flange, glassed,  and drilled rivet holes in the flange. Have a nice relaxing Sunday.....

 

Nils

[wefalck]

Don't know what your workshop's machining capabilities are, but you may be able to disassemble the portholes and work them over - just as in real life such castings would have been machined. Assuming, of course, they were brass.

[Mirabell61]

Eberhard,

thanks for your suggestion, but unfortunately I have zero machining capabilities (no milling !). The portholes were sold as brass material, and after scratching off some chips from the rear side, it still looks like brass cast.

 

Nils

[Peter Cane]

13 hours ago, Mirabell61 said:

Hello Pete and Geert,

 

in fact these are from Ebay bought ones.... When ordering them from a picture and the description, they looked like something real special, as openable glassed, and cast ones, and like Geert I found them atractive. After reception I was a bit disappointed though, due to the not so good quality and appearance. There I`m with Pete and I thank you Pete for the open opinion and comment on them. (do`nt worry, I love honest comments)

I trust that the porthole would have been made by investment castings. The positive is, that I could purchase only the 3 of them as needed. There wo`nt be portholes on the port side of the cabin, as there will be an outcut for viewing inside it.

Because I`m myself not very happy with them I will probably replace them by turned brass ones, with flange, glassed,  and drilled rivet holes in the flange. Have a nice relaxing Sunday.....

 

Nils

Hi Nils.

I find being able to speak openly increasingly difficult especially with these days of political correctness but my overuling instinct is honestly.

I absolutely cannot say I like something if I do not as that is against my ethos.

If I do like something I tend to over praise but that is just me as I have been immensley pleased by something or someone.

Yes I criticised the quality if the brass castings because as soon as I saw them my instinct said "Ahhh no!!!"

I think I have critisised in a positive way as you are now thinking of going for turned brass port holes and to be honest i do not think you will regret it.

I am pleased you took what I wrote in the spirit it was intended and that is...." How your boat looks when finished ".

 

Geert.

It is absolutely okay to disagree and I am really pleased you do.

Hearing all points of view opens up the mind to different concepts and solutions and creates interest.

My solution is but only one idea.

 

Pete

 

 

 

[G.L.]

7 hours ago, Peter Cane said:

It is absolutely okay to disagree and I am really pleased you do.

Hearing all points of view opens up the mind to different concepts and solutions and creates interest.

My solution is but only one idea.

 

Pete,

This time I fully agree with you😄.

As long we express our point of view honestly in a polite way this forum remains a valuable learning school for us all.

[Mirabell61]

status

 

the stb. half of the base deck (without planking) is now on, clear to be seen  is the curvature of the deck in two dimensions....

The 0,8 mm ply has been cut out acc. to the card template. The little rectangular gaps at the outside edge will be filled out with little ply plates, prior to planking

 

Nils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Peter Cane]

Wow!!!

I love the curves over the beam.

I bet you are smiling now Nils.

I want on . I want one !!!

Got the book and thats a start.

Pete

[Mirabell61]

Thank you very much Pete,

 

you seem to feel my present attitude, yes I am realy smiling, also for relief, that the deck side could fit quite well without fractures. The ply is so thin and there are so many small outcuts to be transfered from wood to card to ply, and all to be brought into alignment.  I did`nt want to do it (except for two halves only, stb. / port ) in smaller sections...

 

Nils

Edited October 2, 2019 by Mirabell61

[Mirabell61]

Status :

Raw deck is on, new glassed portholes with rivet holes, openable cabin hatchway, outcuts for viewing cabin  and chain pan, deck and cabin roof and will be planked sperately...

The cabin will be mounted permanently when the deck is planked. A water can and two mugs will be stowed in the little locker between the berths. As soon as I find some waste-cloth with checkered blue white decore, the pillow cases will be made, and last not least the small iron oven will be set between ladder and portside berth, perhaps with a kettle on the top...., the oven exhaust will be led over the cabin roof....

 

Nils

front view engine, flywheel, waterpump, generator and transmission V-belts

 

view of working cockpit and rudderstand for helmsman, also access to mizzen mast and its sail lines

 

 

outcut in cabin and deck for cabin inside view

 

cabin hatch closed, with removeable slide pannel and slide hatch cover

 

cabin hatch opened

 

open hatch with access to the ladder on the innside. The main mast slides into the 8 mm square socket

 

the ladder will be shifted a bit, in order for the drawers under the berth to be opened. if access is required there

 

view to chain pan in front compartment. Access to the chain-and storage compartment is through the hatch in the openable front cabin bullwark under deck

 

ladder down to cabin floor

 

 

[Mirabell61]

Status:

cabin roof and slide hatch both planked and varnished. For the two crew members I made two mugs from brass tube and a big jug for fresh drinkwater (made from wood dowel)

The porthole flanges are pinned to the cabin walls.

I`m intending to fit an oven with a waterkettel on it, also inside the cabin, as well as a fire exstinguisher and a fire axt for safety reasons

Have meanwhile also received the textile for making the berth pillows, unfotunately there was no old shirt I could sacrafice for that job...

 

Nils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2019 by Mirabell61

[G.L.]

Beautiful!

Nils, you take well care  of your crew. I am sure they will like to work for you.

[Mirabell61]

Many thanks Geert,

your remark. is much appreciated...

 

Nils

[Martin W]

Hi Nils -- It's been a while since I checked in, and I have to tell you that I'm mightily impressed with your workmanship, and with the many fascinating details you've added.  Those coffee mugs made me laugh with pleasure.  Wonderful!

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

[Mirabell61]

Hi Martin,

 

thanks for your check-in, and for your nice comments...

For further fitting out gadgets I was searching for an oven (Cabin heating and boiling up water for tea / coffee). I was looking for doll house furniture or so, etc... but these were all in wrong scale 1:12

Then by luck found one in brass  at Ebay in scale 1:24, did a bit of modification, painting to it, built a setz off tube over the cabin roof leading chimney tube, and here we are... Even found a small waterkettel in scale 1:24..

the fire extinguishers and the ax are also in the correct scale. I`m also looking out for some red/brown polyester or dralon cloth (surplus rest bits from an actual sailmaker) for making the sails from.

Also many thanks to all who clicked the "likes"

Nils

 

 

 

 

one fire extinguisher near to the engine and gasoline storage

 

 

 

the chimney top will be modified

 

 

this view into the cabin is from the outside, here without the ladder

 

 

[KeithAug]

I love all the detail Nils. A busy but fascinating model.

[Mirabell61]

Thank you for your words Keith,

i`m pleased you like the details....

 

Nils

Edited October 16, 2019 by Mirabell61

[Peter Cane]

Hi Nils.

I have not forgotten you but for some reason my answers did not get through.

Now I am answering direct on the forum it should register okay.

I like all your fine details.

The stove was a good find.

All the other details are glorious.

Some while back you had some etched fish.

Will you use them do you think?

Pete

[Mirabell61]

many thanks for catching up Pete,

 

thanks for commenting the oven and other details...., and yes the etched fish will be used, I will try to pad them up a bit with Fimo clay and bake it over if it works, to get them a bit more flechy 3D looking. I also wanted to do some eels wiggling in the fish boxes.

I have ordered some reddish (bordeau colored) cotton cloth for the sail making, but may also try a more brownish tinted color, perhaps even two colors on the 5 sails, like some of the actual Zeesboots have

 

Nils

waterkettle (scale 1:24)  for tea or coffee making

 

oven chimney tube

 

 

revoveable chimney-tube rain cover

Edited October 20, 2019 by Mirabell61

[Peter Cane]

Nils I like your chimney very much.

It was well worth the effort.

Because I am as enthused as you about your boat , I have an idea ( again )

As you know I am into rc sailing versions of boats and have come across some you tubes of rc boats with sound and smoke.

After some research I have found some brilliant sound and smoke modules.

One in particular is programmable to make the sound of a host of engines and on one of the settings it would sound near on like a tuc tuc boat engjne.

There is also an Australian design smoke unit which runs off cheap baby oil instead of the expensive stuff.

The unit is favourably priced.

I was thinking.....

With a little bit of your " boat stand " redesigning you could make the stand say 50mm higher and mount both units and batteries underneath and run two tubes.

One to the stove and one to the exhaust.

The speaker unit of course will be built into the stand.

You coukd also run leds to have lights where you want them etc etc.

Sorry to interfere but it would make the model more exceptional than it already is!.

Pete

[Mirabell61]

Good morning Pete,

many thanks for your words, and your nice idea ref. to smoke and sound... much appreciated...

I will save it up in my mind, just as for the oily cloth you once mentioned.

My next activities will be to carry on with the decks planking, I`ve been postponing this for quite some time already, but need to "jump into the cold water now", before concentrating on rigging and sails

 

Nils

[Peter Cane]

I sit with my coke and pop corn awaiting the decking Nils!

Pete

[Mirabell61]

thanks for catching up Pete...

 

I`ve been tied in with so many other things the last days, so the decking of the Zeesboot was cooking on small flame. Now on stb. are fitted the edge planks and the first regular plank, beginning from stern. It looks a bit untidy in the moment, due to the cured out CA used, because of the tensions through the curving, but sanding and scraping will be done at a later point in the process. I have to work around the flat brass members sticking upwards from the ply deck, and I have a good feeling that they are safely anchored to the supporting deck structures below. Caulking is done with a soft HB pencil

 

Nils

the blackened Fittings hold the shrouds, the ones momentarily still in brass hold the foot-rails leaving a horizontal gap to the deck, to hawse the overcoming water quickly

 

 

 

the 3 mm wide edge planks (1,5 mm thick) are from beechwood, they come out a bit darker after varnishing, and the 3 mm wide deck-planks will be of 0,7 mm thick pine

 

 

The little gaps in the deck, next to the brass fittings are closed with little ply bits

Edited November 5, 2019 by Mirabell61

[Peter Cane]

Its coming along nicely.

Pete

[Blue Ensign]

It’s a pleasure to follow your builds Nils, you choose such interesting subjects and apply such innovative skills, great job.👍

 

B.E.

 

 

[Mirabell61]

Many thanks Pete and B.E.

for your nice comments... 

also thanks to all the "likes" for pressing the thumb up icon...

 

Nils

[ESF]

Nils,

Your work is an ongoing feast for the eyes, made even more wonderful by your creativity with what appears to be all hand labor with a minimal set of tools.  You've probably done it before but would you mind sharing what, if any power tools you use and what are your favorite hand tools?

Thank you

Steve

[archjofo]

Hello Nils,

a very nice model, what you have created there.
I love these little details.