mtaylor Posted August 23, 2014 #151 Posted August 23, 2014 NIce work, Chris. And great progress. So it's too late to drill and then epoxy in the rods? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
kscadman Posted August 23, 2014 #152 Posted August 23, 2014 Beautiful work ChrisLBren!! Have you looked into the model shipways pedestals? They have wood screws and work really well. I used them on my Syren. I did pre-drill the holes but it wasn't too much trouble. Richard Quote Current Build - U.S. Syren 2nd Build - HMS Bounty Launch When organizing your thoughts, never use the Dewey Decimal system.
michael mott Posted August 23, 2014 #153 Posted August 23, 2014 Chris I am sure that given your great skill you will be able to find a way to drill the keel and add bolts to enable you to mount her on the brass pedestals. Michael WackoWolf and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
ChrisLBren Posted August 25, 2014 Author #154 Posted August 25, 2014 Thanks for the feedback everyone - my first preference is to do brass pedestals on an ebony stained display board. I think it can be done - Ill just need an assistant to hold the ship steady on the work table while its partially off its building board. Ill have to duck under the table and drill each hole in the keel from the underside with a pin vise. I've ripped out the fenders and am re working them - i wasn't happy with the angle on the hull and one of them got a bit blotched by some Fiebings dye at the rail on a touch up. I'm going on 5 years now on this build - might as well not compromise now. i have built a jig on my vise to make bending these parts easy and hope to have both sides wrapped up and on to gunport lids after Labor Day. druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote
yancovitch Posted September 18, 2014 #155 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) i used solid brass door knobs or cabinet knobs ....flattened at the bottom....just an idea....... .....starting the confederacy shortly.....ordered pear wood.....gonna be fun, and thanks for all your sharing..... Edited September 18, 2014 by yancovitch mtaylor, JerryTodd, Timmo and 4 others 7 Quote
ChrisLBren Posted September 18, 2014 Author #156 Posted September 18, 2014 Great idea - thank you !!! Quote
ChrisLBren Posted October 13, 2014 Author #157 Posted October 13, 2014 Hey Group, Still plugging away on the fenders and I'm about finished with them - photos soon. I'm considering finishing the WVH - she has sentimental value to me. The first step would be to sand off the wipe on poly - paint the hull tallow below the waterline, and apply my tung oil/ bitumen mix to age the planking that will be not painted. I've changed my mind so many times about my next project - so who knows (smile). Chris Ponto, NMBROOK, tarbrush and 8 others 11 Quote
Rustyj Posted October 14, 2014 #158 Posted October 14, 2014 She looks wonderful Chris. I like your thoughts and it would be a shame not to finish her. Go for it! ChrisLBren 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
ChrisLBren Posted November 18, 2014 Author #159 Posted November 18, 2014 Fenders installed - gun port lids just about finished - photos in next couple days. All I have left on this one is the channels/deadeyes and wrapping up the head rails. Five years into this build as of Thanksgiving.... Rustyj, mtaylor and Landlubber Mike 3 Quote
Trussben Posted November 18, 2014 #160 Posted November 18, 2014 Glad to hear your are near the finish line on that beautiful model. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
mtaylor Posted November 18, 2014 #161 Posted November 18, 2014 I guess it's almost time to have the quartermaster roll out the appropriate barrel as a toast in the offing. ChrisLBren 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
yancovitch Posted November 19, 2014 #162 Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) hmmmmmm.....i keep wondering if you have documented the major part of your build....which is absolutely gorgeous by the way.......i've got the skeleton done and am waiting for the pearwood i purchased from jeff -such a nice fellow-...................... one thing.....did you use a pencil to simulate caulking? it doesn't look like it.. i was pondering whether or not to do it, because of the darkness of the pearwood...maybe not as effective.....also wondering about treenails and how to accomplish this on the pearwood..i thought just drilling and pear dust with tung oil, or satin wipe on poly as an adhesive, depending on which i'll use.........and did you glue the planks to each other, or just to the bulkheads?...boy....if i could do as good a job as you, i'd be very pleased indeed!.................thanks, vic Edited November 20, 2014 by yancovitch Quote
Rustyj Posted November 20, 2014 #163 Posted November 20, 2014 Hi Chris, I can't wait to see you finish her up. I doesn't seem like it's been five years either. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
ChrisLBren Posted November 20, 2014 Author #164 Posted November 20, 2014 Thanks Ben, Rusty and Mark - here are the updated photos. I will be adding the channels next in boxwood and dye their inverted knees with Fiebings black leather dye. I will scratch the deadeye strops and chain plate assemblies (hoping to get a torch for Xmas), then its finishing the head rails and adding the stump masts/anchors and mounting her to a display board. Yancovitch - I did not simulate caulking on the hull planking - not really a fan of that look - and most museum models do not show this detail. You can see from the photos that the Tung Oil finish I used did accentuate the lines of the planking slightly - which was the effect I wanted. I used a number 2 pencil to simulate caulking for the deck planking. As far as treenailing - at this scale i didn't want to bother with it - I do think think the drilling and saw dust method would work well though if you want to go for it. All planks were glued to each other and the bulkheads to try to get as tight of a result as possible. Hope that helps - and thanks for the kind words! Happy Thanksgiving ! Chris yvesvidal, Mike Y, yancovitch and 30 others 33 Quote
Trussben Posted November 20, 2014 #165 Posted November 20, 2014 She really is a beauty Chris. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
yancovitch Posted November 21, 2014 #166 Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) thanks so much for your response chris......i'm with you there regarding the caulking.....i feel better with your confirmation....i will do the treenails though, it tends to really show up the graceful lines.......just got the wood today......starting to feel my teeth itch ......so happy to see your lovely shots ......cheers, vic oh, what glue did you use for the planking?...yellow?white?ca? Edited November 21, 2014 by yancovitch Quote
Rustyj Posted November 21, 2014 #167 Posted November 21, 2014 Oh that is so sweet! Well done Chris. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
WackoWolf Posted November 21, 2014 #168 Posted November 21, 2014 Beautiful work. Nice and crisp. Keep the updates and pictures coming. I have been watching this since you started back when it was MSW 1, I also remember when you almost quit, glad you didn't. She has turn out Excellent. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
ChrisLBren Posted November 21, 2014 Author #169 Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks guys ! I've been searching Ebay/Etsy for vintage drawer/cabinet hardwood knobs to mount her on - thinking that would look sweet along with an ebony stained/dyed display board. That's the next step - as most of you know there is a slight warp on my hull of about 1/16th inch which I think I can mitigate when I mount her. Then I can warp up the channels/chain plates, stub masts, anchors and head rails. WackoWolf 1 Quote
ChrisLBren Posted November 29, 2014 Author #170 Posted November 29, 2014 Back from Thanksgiving and thinking the next move is to instead finish the head rails/head. I'm going to change my approach on the head timbers this time - rather than the rear one - Im going to start with the forward most one first. That way i can get the angles right and just merely shrink them and then be able to slot them into the correct position. At least thats the plan now.... Quote
ChrisLBren Posted December 2, 2014 Author #171 Posted December 2, 2014 So after another frustrating session with the head timbers - thought of a bright idea - rather than burn through boxwood - Im going to make templates out of basswood and transfer to box. Lets see if this works.... mtaylor 1 Quote
yancovitch Posted December 16, 2014 #172 Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) at this rate, not being as meticulous as you, i may catch up with you ...but no, you're inspiring me to slow down, curb my impatience, and take my time.........sorry, but do you really have twins?..... Edited December 24, 2014 by yancovitch Quote
Mirabell61 Posted December 22, 2014 #173 Posted December 22, 2014 beautiful work Chris, lovely color scheme and warm Wood tone, I love it Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
ChrisLBren Posted January 14, 2015 Author #174 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) I've got both a Byrnes table saw and disc sander on way...... Cant wait to use the sander on those head timbers that have been giving me fits - pics soon !!! Edited January 14, 2015 by ChrisLBren Remcohe, Trussben, Rustyj and 2 others 5 Quote
yancovitch Posted January 15, 2015 #175 Posted January 15, 2015 looked up the byrnes table saw, and it looks fantastic....never heard of it......good for you!... Quote
ChrisLBren Posted February 7, 2015 Author #176 Posted February 7, 2015 Only the forward most head timbers left - and then its on to installing the rail and hopefully some pictures. The Byrnes disc sander has come in big time for making these rapidly (as my scrap pile grows). Id advise anyone building her to use a hardwood for these - I'm amazed Chuck was able to pull it off with basswood considering how fragile this structure is. Trial and error is the only way I've found to make these vs using templates etc... This is by far the most challenging part of this build - Confederacy builders you are warned...LOL Stuntflyer, Trussben and Rustyj 3 Quote
Trussben Posted February 7, 2015 #177 Posted February 7, 2015 Glad the sander is getting a work out, I don't know where I'd be without mine. Ben Rustyj 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
ChrisLBren Posted May 7, 2015 Author #178 Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Hey Group I've moved into our new house - I've attached photos of my new workspace (which needs to be set up - I also have a three car garage and a large deck for workspace) and my study where I have a big wall to house a ship model (you can see the profile of the plans of the 118 Commerce de Marseille which would easily fit in this space at 1/48). Its either this ship or the 74 - funny aside - I bought a smaller Weber gas grill this past weekend - the Spirit - and I'm trading up for the Genesis because the wife said it was too small. So maybe I should go for the 118 built as the 120 L'Orient - since she says go big or go home ! Chris Edited May 7, 2015 by ChrisLBren Chuck, yancovitch, Wishmaster and 7 others 10 Quote
Chuck Posted May 7, 2015 #179 Posted May 7, 2015 Great space Chris....Set up a card table and break out the tools!!!! mtaylor 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
mtaylor Posted May 7, 2015 #180 Posted May 7, 2015 Go for the L'Orient... :D However, will you have room for anymore models after that one? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
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