svein erik Posted August 26, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 26, 2019 hi . its now time to start the build log for the us coast guard cable steam boat. a wil write more soon how its going to be built ! here ate some photos of the frame for now! svein erik hexnut, paulsutcliffe, druxey and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted August 30, 2019 The pequot was built in 1909 by the New York Shipsbuilding company in Camden, New Jersey with the name General Samuel M.Mills and first commissioned as an Army mine layer. She was driven by two compound- expansion 2 cylinder coal fired steam reciprocal engines which generated 900 horsepower. the length was 166' and beam of 32' with a draft of 13' she displaced 1106 tons. October 12, 1908 the keels for the Mills and Schofield where laid on the same day, My build wil be based on the Mills/ later Pequot from 1908/1909 and the hull is constructed of wood with wood planking, later i wil make simulated steel plates with the bolts etc ( hull) the main deck cabins wil also have simulates steel plates , but the upper cabins wil be in wood as constructed in 1909. some photo of the building of the Mills /Pequot, and my frame work as it are now . i need more wood filling at the stern an some more fairing of the hull befor planking. svein erik. druxey, coxswain, Nirvana and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cane Posted August 31, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 31, 2019 I like the lines of this model. It is brimming with character. Nice building. Pete Vladimir_Wairoa, druxey, Mirabell61 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted August 31, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 31, 2019 Quote Svein Erik, That is a very elegant Coast Guard cutter, a bit like a steam yacht. I wish you much pleasure with the build of it and just signed in to follow. Nirvana, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted September 1, 2019 thanks for the likes and coments😊 i have bin testing som material for the simulated steel plates . i first used some alu foil , but i think te seem was not thick for the scale, so i have to go and think out some thing again🔧🔩🔨🚀..... i did find some card stock , cutting it in some peases (not in scale yust randum) used some pva glue om the back and glue it to some wood , i think this is it!! nice seems and teksture . Is low cost and i can cutt it in any way i want! the test is not painted yet, but after this is glue on the hull and painted i thing this is going to be very nice😊 svein erik FriedClams, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted September 1, 2019 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2019 A very interesting subject and you're off on a good start. I will follow along. Gary Nirvana and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted September 4, 2019 thanks for te likes and coments... am in my cabin and doing some planing for the pequot prodjekt in the rain!! (am inside.. 😉) so how do i say it😲...... i just descover that am are a knokelhead , i think i have to re do the hole frame work and start all over , how did it happen! i have so many plans that i have some wrong plans inside some of the right one it dident get in the trash 😖 so i did some re masuremant and come up with , the bulkhead frames are in 1:50 the backbone is in 1:45 (this is buildt) the righte scale is 1:48 , i have the plans for this scale (OMG, how stuped i am) when am home again a have to look at this more, now am yust mad at my self... but the prodjekt is on hold not stoped, it just going to take more time . need to order some ply for new frame😨 svein-erik KeithAug and Nirvana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted September 5, 2019 Share #8 Posted September 5, 2019 Don't feel bad. It is easy to mix up plans and cause yourself confusion. Hopefully you can save and use some of the parts you have cut. druxey and Nirvana 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 2:35 AM, mtaylor said: Don't feel bad. It is easy to mix up plans and cause yourself confusion. Hopefully you can save and use some of the parts you have cut. Mark i do not feel bad , so am now good to go..... i got some new ply 5mm (ligt ply) 8 sheets . 33cm×66cm and a new tool 😲 proxxon so am starting to make a new frame😊 svein erik G.L., GrandpaPhil, Nirvana and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted September 26, 2019 am ready for round 2 on this prodjekt😊 am planing the bulkhead templates and trying to understand the curve / deck curve, so i can cut out the templates correckt ?? here are some photo of wat i have dunn , am i on the right track here?? svein erik hexnut, Ondras71, Nirvana and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted September 27, 2019 Share #11 Posted September 27, 2019 It looks like you are on the right track. Nirvana, svein erik and mtaylor 3 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted September 28, 2019 thanks for the likes am now finish with the templates and its been drawn to the sheet ready to cut out, this time i dont have all the bulwark extension, this wil be made later! also the bulkhead former is ready to be cut out. after my mistake with the first hull i did learn a hole lot and the 2 hull is going to be a better one😊 (learning by doing, its yust wood )LOL.... svein erik G.L., Tigerdvr, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted October 1, 2019 finish cutting out bulkhead former and bulkheads and for now its yust dryfitted , next is to trim the BF a little and chek it against the plans .......... Then glue it together😉 when all the stern/bow filler are glued on am at the stagde where i was on the first hull!! am back on track😊 svein erik mtaylor, Mirabell61, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted October 6, 2019 thanks for the likes, i have glued everything together and started to shape the hull / fairing the hull the stern is going to take some time because of the round shape that needed from the dekk to the keel .... i think its going to be fun to see the lines and compare it to the plans .... svein erik GrandpaPhil, Tigersteve, Sea Hoss and 16 others 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted October 8, 2019 Some progress on the hull, (the New one) soon its time to glue the false dekk , some sanding and some wire rigging in the hull for lights before planking, I took some photo of the first hull beside the New one... a huge differents all the way. and also thanks for the likes , its going to be more interested later on with this build 😊 Svein.erik coxswain, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted October 8, 2019 am thinking of using blocks on all the bulkheads, insted of wood planking, i then wil cut out all the section for the steel plates using soft copper sheet , roll the rivitts on the back side then glue it on the hull peace by peace . i think this is going to be faster and more realistic when airbrushed, i never try this metod and i do not know if anyone has? Mirabell61, Tigerdvr, Nirvana and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 9, 2019 Share #17 Posted October 9, 2019 That should work as wood hulls with copper cladding aren't that rare around here. Nirvana 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted October 9, 2019 Share #18 Posted October 9, 2019 Am looking forward to your copper plating results Svein Erik, and wish you good success with it.... Nils Nirvana and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted October 9, 2019 Share #19 Posted October 9, 2019 Stein, There is an active about similated rivets below on the forum under the “modeling tips” category. What adhesive a re you planning to use to glue the copper to the. Hull? Roger Nirvana and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted October 9, 2019 hi Roger wel ..... i do not even now yet... i feal like thomas Edison , there is 20.000 thousand wrong right way to do this but only one wil work.... i wil test this when i have the soft copper roll😉 svein erik Nirvana and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted October 10, 2019 Share #21 Posted October 10, 2019 At an NRG conference several years ago there was a presentation from the US Navy’s David Taylor Hydrodynamics Lab about building a model of one of the steam powered cruisers built by the US Navy during the Civil War. This vessel had a copper sheathed bottom. The model’s builders used 3M transfer tape to stick the plates to the hull. This transfer tape comes on a waxed paper backing. When the backing is peeled off only the adhesive remains. There are many different strengths of adhesive available. I tried this technique on the hull of a Great Lakes freighter model except that I used brass instead of copper. The adhesive from the tape was not strong enough to prevent the brass from curling up and I set the model aside. The idea is interesting enough for me to try again with softer copper. Roger Nirvana and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted October 11, 2019 thanks for the coments and likes, a bit more work has bin dunn, the wire for lightig is install, i block up the hull and sanded it to shape/faired.... dusting... dusting...😲 The false dekk is glued on also but need to be sanded a bit on the edge around the hull. propell shaft need to go in /the hole has to be drilled out . the next task is to make the bulwark/rail, the keel has to get glued on, so after all this the hull is going to have some layers of filler so it can be smoot before the steel plating task! svein erik Dubz, G.L., druxey and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted October 21, 2019 thanks for the likes moving farword , the bulwalk is glued on and am now shaping the hull with some filler , when am happy with the result, i wil mark /lining off the hull for the steel plating of the hull. the bow keel is my nex task .... so next time i think the hull is ready for some plates... svein erik Nirvana, coxswain, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted October 23, 2019 yust resive a test sheet of soft copper to make all the steel plates for the pequot hull, am going to make some plates so i can see how it work with the rivitts and the thickness . this sheet is 007 thick .... this copper has been burned so it can be bendt in any way you want! svein erik mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, Nirvana and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted October 23, 2019 Share #25 Posted October 23, 2019 Svein. A very interesting subject which I will be pleased to follow. Just one observation - With the balsa being soft and easily damaged are you sure that copper wont get damaged (badly dented) during the construction process. FriedClams, mtaylor and Nirvana 3 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share #26 Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, KeithAug said: Svein. A very interesting subject which I will be pleased to follow. Just one observation - With the balsa being soft and easily damaged are you sure that copper wont get damaged (badly dented) during the construction process. hi keith, wel.... i dont think so the hull has some strength filler over the balsa, wen dunn it wil get some primer on to get more strenght before the copper, i have also tested the soft copper and the sheet i have is way to thick (007) it has to be thinner 002/003 so i may have to get back using tape.. (snaile tape ... its copper and its 4cm wide and 5 m long) Nirvana, coxswain, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share #27 Posted November 1, 2019 tanks for likes! and some more update , am about to get the hull over spryed with some paint before i get to the task of the simulated hull plating. a the model is beginning to look like a ship.. LOL😊( propell on the photo is not for this model.. am using smaller with 4 blades ) svein erik Nirvana, Blackreed, Dubz and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted November 4, 2019 Testing some copper foil for simulateing the steel hull plates, I also simulere the rivits from the back of the teip/foil you can jugde for your self...😊 Svein.erik Tigerdvr, Nirvana, Mirabell61 and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted November 5, 2019 Share #29 Posted November 5, 2019 Looks very good, Svein Erik. Mirabell61, Nirvana, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted November 11, 2019 thanks for likes and coments. finish... most of one side of the hull (some more detalj needed later) for now its a big bling bling but when the paint etc is coming on i think is going to be different😉 so thanks for now and here is some photos... svein erik yvesvidal, tarbrush, TOM G and 17 others 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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