bruce d Posted November 16, 2019 #61 Posted November 16, 2019 Many thanks Toni for de-demonizing planking. Lovely job, attractive model and simple steps. Well done. Bruce Canute, Saburo, EJ_L and 1 other 4 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
Maury S Posted November 17, 2019 #62 Posted November 17, 2019 Nice result Toni. Back to the question about 1500 grit sandpaper. Why do you think it necessary to go beyond 320? Maury Canute and EJ_L 2 Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/
tlevine Posted November 17, 2019 Author #63 Posted November 17, 2019 Maury, with the softness of the basswood I find the surface visually smooth but when I rub my hand along it there is still some roughness. With hardwoods I usually stop at 400. It only takes a few minutes to sand it further because I am only sanding the lower hull, not the wale or bulwark planking. bruce d, Saburo, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Maury S Posted November 17, 2019 #64 Posted November 17, 2019 Got it. I mistakenly thought it was being made with Alaskan Yellow Cedar (AYC). Same issue I imagine because it's soft like Bass. Maur mtaylor, EJ_L, Canute and 1 other 4 Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/
Blue Pilot Posted December 1, 2019 #65 Posted December 1, 2019 Thanks for this great project. I think I may order one. I have always wanted to do a half hull and I still have so much to learn about planking. I wonder if there would be any interest in this being a group project . It seems like this could be a great option for beginners or first time molders in addition to people like me are novices and looking to improve skills and knowledge. Ryland Craze, Saburo, bdgiantman2 and 3 others 6 Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
tlevine Posted December 1, 2019 Author #66 Posted December 1, 2019 Mark, I developed the kit with the idea of turning it into a group project. As soon as a few people start build logs we will get things started. Canute and mtaylor 2 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Heronguy Posted December 2, 2019 #67 Posted December 2, 2019 Toni, where do recommend build logs go. Is it a kit? Is it a scratch build? Perhaps if it is going to be a group project like the Winchelsea then it seems to be in a completely different part of the forum. Canute and mtaylor 2 Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600
Blue Pilot Posted December 2, 2019 #68 Posted December 2, 2019 Ok Toni I am in. I will get a kit ordered and start a log...........here I go again 😀. It looks like a fun and educational project. Saburo, mtaylor, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
kurtvd19 Posted December 2, 2019 #69 Posted December 2, 2019 It is a kit. Start a log in the kit builds. When several are started we can set it up in the group build area. Nirvana, Heronguy, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 2, 2019 #70 Posted December 2, 2019 Hi all, I know, that you have prepared some kits, but I like to ask, if it is possible to make the drawings and description available for members out of the US (for me Germany) . I like to give this small project a try but with shipping costs and tax it will become to expansive for me for a training project Canute and Edwardkenway 2 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Heronguy Posted December 2, 2019 #71 Posted December 2, 2019 I've added a build log. mtaylor, Blue Pilot, tlevine and 1 other 4 Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600
Edwardkenway Posted December 2, 2019 #72 Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, AnobiumPunctatum said: Hi all, I know, that you have prepared some kits, but I like to ask, if it is possible to make the drawings and description available for members out of the US (for me Germany) . I like to give this small project a try but with shipping costs and tax it will become to expansive for me for a training project That sounds like a good idea. No prohibitive shipping costs. Canute, mtaylor and JeffK 3 Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
Ab Hoving Posted December 2, 2019 #73 Posted December 2, 2019 Thank you Toni for this wonderful tutorial. I hope everyone who still thinks long straight strips will do to plank a hull has understood that it is totally impossible. Maybe some of your readers are withhold from buying worthless kits for outrageous prices. You did a great job. mtaylor, Ryland Craze, tlevine and 3 others 6
Blue Pilot Posted December 2, 2019 #74 Posted December 2, 2019 I just placed my order. Looking forward to this, I am sure I will learn a lot. Now I need to clean the garage and set up a place to work. mtaylor, Canute and Ryland Craze 3 Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
tlevine Posted December 3, 2019 Author #75 Posted December 3, 2019 Christian and Ed, the NRG Board has discussed your situation and we had decided not to make the plan and instructions available as a stand-alone without the kit components. We can talk about it again. mtaylor and Canute 2 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
kurtvd19 Posted December 3, 2019 #76 Posted December 3, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 1:58 PM, Blue Pilot said: I just placed my order. Looking forward to this, I am sure I will learn a lot. Now I need to clean the garage and set up a place to work. Mark: I just dropped off the kit at the PO. Says it is due for delivery on Saturday. Have fun. Kurt mtaylor and Canute 2 Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
Blue Pilot Posted December 3, 2019 #77 Posted December 3, 2019 Sweet! Thanks for the update. mtaylor and Canute 2 Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 3, 2019 #78 Posted December 3, 2019 Hi Toni, sorry to hear that, but I respect your decision. Blue Pilot, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
tlevine Posted December 4, 2019 Author #79 Posted December 4, 2019 The Board discussed your request again last night, Christian and Ed. We will not be offering the kit in a plans and manual only version. There were several issues raised but the most critical is the fact that this is aimed at the novice model builder. They would not be expected to have the necessary equipment and skill to be able to accurately cut out the components. Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Edwardkenway Posted December 4, 2019 #80 Posted December 4, 2019 I completely understand the reasoning, that fact never crossed my mind. Thankyou for your replies, and considerations on the idea. Cheers Canute, EJ_L, kurtvd19 and 3 others 6 Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
kurtvd19 Posted December 5, 2019 #81 Posted December 5, 2019 The Planking Kit is now available in the NRG Store. Please note the 3 options to buy - US, Canada, Other . Please click on the correct link for where you live. Remember NRG members get 20% off. https://thenrg.org/half-hull-planking-kit.php Kurt Canute and EJ_L 2 Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS
bdgiantman2 Posted December 8, 2019 #82 Posted December 8, 2019 I have my kit of this little boat, and I am looking forward to starting construction. However, because of my work schedule, at this time I will not be able to start the construction until after Christmas. Brian Blue Pilot, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4
tlevine Posted December 9, 2019 Author #83 Posted December 9, 2019 Looking forward to seeing it in the New Year. mtaylor, Canute and EJ_L 3 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Moab Posted December 30, 2019 #84 Posted December 30, 2019 Toni; thank you for posting this great build with great photos. Have a peaceful new year...Moab tlevine, EJ_L, Canute and 2 others 5 Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways
VTHokiEE Posted January 22, 2020 #85 Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) On 10/10/2019 at 5:57 PM, tlevine said: the wale is a thicker run of planking that adds strength to the hull. It will be located on the plans of whatever ship you are building. It is marked on this plan with two blue lines. Use a square to locate the top of the wale on the frames. Toni - I have a question regarding marking the wale. It maybe due to my fairing but when I attempt to mark the lower edge of the wale of Frame G the result is very wide. My thinking is that the wale would be a semi-consistent width and I may be better off marking the top of the wale from the plans and then using the thickness from the plans to finish the lower edge or would I be better off leaving the wale as shown in the plans but having a pretty thick wale by the stern. I keep remeasuring but marking off the wale is giving me fits for some unknown reason, especially the lower edge 🙂. Thanks! EDIT: Doh I found my answer in the directions (going to sit in the corner now). The wales are a constant 0.28" it took me a while but i think i finally have them lined out reasonably well, or at least as well as I can do for now :). Edited January 23, 2020 by VTHokiEE Canute, Voyageur, bruce d and 1 other 4 Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
tlevine Posted January 24, 2020 Author #86 Posted January 24, 2020 We all have those moments. We simply try to hide them! VTHokiEE, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Moab Posted January 24, 2020 #87 Posted January 24, 2020 I'm concerned that "those moments" are happening more often. I'm starting the Planking kit in about a month or two. I hope I remember to start...Moab Canute and mtaylor 2 Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways
Marshall Posted April 22, 2020 #88 Posted April 22, 2020 I just finished your kit-----about 6 weeks-----on the whole quite enjoyable but I think I will stick to solid hulls!!!!!! I did learn a lot. Some picture below---Marshall Chuck, tlevine, LyleK1 and 6 others 9
dvm27 Posted April 22, 2020 #89 Posted April 22, 2020 Very nice job Marshall! Planking a solid hull should be much easier after this exercise. GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
tlevine Posted April 22, 2020 Author #90 Posted April 22, 2020 Looks very nice, Marshall. Spiling is the same whether the model is POF, POB or a solid hull. Thanks for posting your pictures. What wood did you use for the wale? Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
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