Egilman Posted May 5, 2021 #61 Posted May 5, 2021 Yep the green is very well faded... then you also have that oily dirt staining reflecting in the sun, (traffic pattern, probably combined with some paint wear) It appears on all the aircraft in the pic... and the same oil staining along the horizontal stabilizer, (where they would push the aircraft on the ground when backing it up) Looks like you are a long ways to replicating the faded green paint, but that traffic and handling pattern is going to be a bear.... Very nice work.... Edwardkenway, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
oneslim Posted May 5, 2021 Author #62 Posted May 5, 2021 Thanks Egilman. Part 9a Here are two shots I missed posting last night. This shows the 'Poster Putty' used to mask a feather edge of the RAF Dark Green over the RAF Medium Gray. Masking tape was added to give full coverage. The white tape is to simulate the sealing tape applied to the panel seams for sea shipment. A water proof paper was applied to all seams of all panels to keep out the sea air while on deck of the transport. A 'Par-Al- Ketone was painted over the tape to seal the edges of it. The sun and weather caused the ketone to damage the paint and left a dark stain where it was used. The wings and tail parts were not effected because they were removed and sealed in wooden crates. Here is a shot of Dick Bong in a early P-38 G, it shows the staining. More to Come, BobW lmagna, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
Egilman Posted May 5, 2021 #63 Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, oneslim said: The white tape is to simulate the sealing tape applied to the panel seams for sea shipment. A water proof paper was applied to all seams of all panels to keep out the sea air while on deck of the transport. A 'Par-Al- Ketone was painted over the tape to seal the edges of it. The sun and weather caused the ketone to damage the paint and left a dark stain where it was used. The wings and tail parts were not effected because they were removed and sealed in wooden crates. If I remember it was a fabric tape over wax paper The Ketone would liquefy the wax which penetrated every thing and left the stains you see, it worked a lot like cosmoline once it dried, and left darkened paint especially on flat paint... They could wipe it off with gasoline, but that would damage the paint adhesion which would require a complete repaint.... They eventually realized that it was easier to use carriers to transport aircraft as they could be immediately used when delivered and it didn't change the time before repainting... So they ended the practice.... Old Collingwood, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
oneslim Posted May 6, 2021 Author #64 Posted May 6, 2021 Egilman, I have no personal experience with sea shipping of aircraft. My info came from the "Aircorps Library". They have the manual from Lockheed dated September 1944 titled: "Preparation of Aircraft for Overseas Shipment". This manual only mentions a waterproof paper. Thanks for the info on just how it worked. https://aircorpslibrary.com/ Many Thanks, BobW Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
mtaylor Posted May 6, 2021 #65 Posted May 6, 2021 The P-82 had some roots in the P-38. As kid, a buddy and I took 2 P-38's and started modifying them. A neighbor set us straight so we bought 2 P-51's. and actually had a model of the P-82. I know where I get my kit bashing from that turned into scratch building. LOL....... P-82 article: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-82-twin-mustang-crazy-jet-fighter-you-never-heard-184389 Edwardkenway, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
lmagna Posted May 6, 2021 #66 Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) Another plane that could have influenced the F-82 was the BF109Z COG has made a pretty interesting version of this plane. Edited May 6, 2021 by lmagna Papa, Canute, RGL and 8 others 10 1 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
oneslim Posted May 21, 2021 Author #67 Posted May 21, 2021 Part 10 I've been applying decals, 169 of them in all. A good portion of them were so small that they measured less than 1/16th of an inch. Every panel on this bird has a data decal. Here is a little jig I made to line-up the prop markings. This is a overhead view. She is still in gloss coat for the decals to set down. The bottom view, one can just make out the data blurbs in the small removable panels. Port side view. "PUDGY" was McGuire's wife's nickname. This is "PUDGY III', Roman numerals were not applied until 'PUDGY IV" which was a P-38 J. Starboard view, the white decal on the nose side under the windshield lists the ground crew. More to Come BobW marktiedens, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 13 others 14 2 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
Old Collingwood Posted May 21, 2021 #68 Posted May 21, 2021 Gorgeous work. OC. BLACK VIKING, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
lmagna Posted May 21, 2021 #69 Posted May 21, 2021 That is a lot of decals! Looks like it will pay off in the end though. Very nice build! Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
popeye the sailor Posted May 21, 2021 #70 Posted May 21, 2021 the turbos are missing........thought you put 'em on already ...... splendid looking aircraft......the paint is interesting. very nice work! Canute, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
oneslim Posted May 22, 2021 Author #71 Posted May 22, 2021 Thanks Guys for the comments and 'Likes'. Popeye, the turbos were only painted at that time. They may be the last parts added. Now the bird is only held together with double sided tape. BobW popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
Egilman Posted May 22, 2021 #72 Posted May 22, 2021 Coming out very nice, the upcoming blending is going to really make it stand out.... Wear patterns over aluminum are difficult to reproduce in scale..... But I think I see where your going.... Excellent work Bob.... Canute, Edwardkenway, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
oneslim Posted July 15, 2021 Author #73 Posted July 15, 2021 Part 11 Here is the bottom after a coat of Alclad II Lacquer Klear Kote matt. The weathering was applied before the Klear Kote. Wheels were added along with the radio antenna. Starboard Bottom wheels and boarding ladder. Aft view of the weathering streaking back on the booms from the turbo-superchargers. The heat quickly damaged the paint. The effect was a freehand airbrushing of tan followed by a light dusting of buff. Then the heavy staining was applied powders using a brush, followed by Klear Kote. Port quarter view. Focus stack of the business end. Cockpit. Turbo-superchargers. Antenna mount. Starboard Prop. Starboard side. Port side. More to Come BobW Landlubber Mike, lmagna, Baker and 21 others 21 3 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
Canute Posted July 15, 2021 #74 Posted July 15, 2021 Superb job, Bob. 👍 Old Collingwood, mtaylor, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
yvesvidal Posted July 15, 2021 #75 Posted July 15, 2021 Superb model. The P-38 is truly a special bird. Yves Egilman, oneslim, Ryland Craze and 6 others 9 Quote
Baker Posted July 15, 2021 #76 Posted July 15, 2021 Great work 👍 Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Matt D Posted July 15, 2021 #77 Posted July 15, 2021 Beautiful, Bob! You've done an amazing job! How did you know how to simulate the worn paint next to the cockpit? It looks so realistic, but I can't imagine how you did it. mtaylor, lmagna, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41
Old Collingwood Posted July 15, 2021 #78 Posted July 15, 2021 Excellent work - truly a stand out piece of work. OC. Egilman, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
oneslim Posted July 16, 2021 Author #79 Posted July 16, 2021 Thanks everyone for the comments and likes. Matt D, I used Bare Metal Foil on the wings, ( in a early Post ). Then sprayed a coat of AK Chipping Fluid, followed by the color. After a few days i used a sharpened tooth pick to scratch off the color. BobW Baker, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
Red Rhino Posted July 16, 2021 #80 Posted July 16, 2021 Congrats Bob! I believe that is the finest example of the Tamiya kit I have ever seen! The rivet detail in particular is outstanding. Dave oneslim, Egilman, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote
popeye the sailor Posted July 16, 2021 #81 Posted July 16, 2021 amazing job on the plane........the weathering and added details really stand out! looks awesome! Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Javlin Posted July 17, 2021 #82 Posted July 17, 2021 Bob Nice Crate!! Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, oneslim and 5 others 8 Quote
oneslim Posted July 17, 2021 Author #83 Posted July 17, 2021 Thank You Gentlemen for the wonderful comments and the Likes. BobW lmagna, mtaylor, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Bob Wescott South Jersey
lmagna Posted July 17, 2021 #84 Posted July 17, 2021 Truly a unique model of a unique aircraft. Congratulations Bob Canute, Edwardkenway, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
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