ancre Le Rochefort by No Idea - 1/24th Scale - First POF Build

[Dziadeczek]

You'll have to shape this piece from a bigger piece of wood, if heat bending doesn't work.

Edited October 2, 2022 by Dziadeczek

[No Idea]

At last I have an update on my build!

 

Thanks for all of the advice given as getting this right has proven to be quite a challenge for me.  Firstly I tried carving a plank and it did not go too well and I find that using this method wastes quite a lot of wood.

 

So in the end I used lamination to get around the tightest bends but I also had to spile the planks too.  The first 3 strakes underneath the deck clamp had to be made this way before I could revert to solid wood.

 

This plank was made up of 3 layers to get to the correct thickness of 2.8mm

 

The next two planks were made up of 2 layers of lamination the first being 2.5mm thick and the second 2.8mm

 

Now this is my first attempt at ceiling planking and I soon realised that I had made an error earlier in the build.  The first lot of planks that I had placed coming away from the keelson had been tapered too much towards the stern.  They did not go far enough up the sternson which meant that with my remaining planks I really had to make up some space between them and the new planking on the transom.

I had a choice I could either fit a stealer to bridge the gap or exaggerate the flair of the planks on the transom.  I decided on the latter and here's the result.

 

Its been a really good learning curve for me and whilst the planking is hardly uniform it is very tight on the frames and transom.  Next time I will look at this planking from a completely different angle and get it far more pleasing to the eye.

 

I now need to replicate my mistakes on the starboard side so that it looks symmetrical but I think this will be ok for me to do.

 

Lastly a couple of pictures hopefully showing the planking thickness decreasing from 3mm to 1.8mm as it moves down the frames and across the transom.

 

Cheers Mark

 

[giampieroricci]

Beautiful work!!

 

[Tonphil1960]

So great to see an update !  I'm still up in the air if I should start mine soon or not.  Still have to buy the lumber.  You were wise to go to 1/24 I think. more material but easier of handling of the parts I'd say. I hope this log stays forever cuz Ill need it for every step. There isn't very many Rochefort scratch builds out there in cyber land.  

[No Idea]

giampeiroricci - thanks mate 👍

 

Tonphil1960 - building in 1/4 scale is nice but it also means that you have to manipulate 1/4 scale sections of wood. I’ve found this very difficult at times and sometimes think that the smaller scale may have been a better option. It just throws up challenges that I have to find solutions for such as the plank lamination in the post above. 

[Tonphil1960]

Yes each has its benefits and drawbacks. 

[druxey]

That ceiling plank all the way up to the wing transom has to be the trickiest piece of planking I've seen! No wonder the British ended those planks on the fashion piece....

Edited October 31, 2022 by druxey

[No Idea]

20 hours ago, druxey said:

That ceiling plank all the way up to the wing transom has to be the trickiest piece of planking I've seen! No wonder the British ended those planks on the fashion piece....

Hang on I’m English maybe I could end them at the…….oh no maybe not just wishful thinking on my part 😂😂

[Beef Wellington]

Looking forward to your next update Mark...taps fingers 🙂

[No Idea]

18 hours ago, Beef Wellington said:

Looking forward to your next update Mark...taps fingers 🙂

😂 I’m making good progress but it’s slow. It’s also getting more enjoyable as I get better at ceiling work. I’ll have an update in few weeks 👍

[Tobias]

On 1.9.2022 at 12:47, Tonphil1960 said:

Sieht toll aus Markus. Was ist der Grund für die zwei unterschiedlichen Nägel? ein bisschen schwarz, ein bisschen weiß! Wie lange ist sie in 1/24? 

 

Hi Tony, yes it is true that the French ships use two types of nails in the offset, but only below the waterline, above they are only iron nails.

[No Idea]

On 11/24/2022 at 10:51 PM, Tobias said:

Hi Tony, yes it is true that the French ships use two types of nails in the offset, but only below the waterline, above they are only iron nails.

Tobias that is spot on mate 👍

 

Not really an update but just a few shots of how things are going.  I'm working on the bow and stern at the same time to get things done.  As I've discovered planking the inside of a hull takes the same amount of time as planking the outside.  So a few pictures of spiled planks, clamps and unfinished fitted planks too!  The planks look stepped as the thickness decreases as they go down towards the keel.  Things are getting easier as I'm learning new skills everyday.

Its coming along nicely but these things take time and a lot of measurements - Cheers Mark

 

 

[ChrisLBren]

Nice work !!!!!

 

Also I noticed you have a Foredom - mine arrives tomorrow and hopefully will help with the stern parts !  

[No Idea]

5 minutes ago, ChrisLBren said:

Nice work !!!!!

 

Also I noticed you have a Foredom - mine arrives tomorrow and hopefully will help with the stern parts !  

Check out Kevin Kenny's review and set up of the Foredom tool its very good.  I love mine as it has so much torque at very low speed.  The best on the market but they are also very expensive.  I used a Dremel successfully for many years and although they do the same job the Foredom makes it easier with better control.

[Tonphil1960]

So clean !  That interior planking and other work makes me say that 1/24 would be easier no doubt. Those clamps just have a block on the other side ? I’m going to make a few. 

[druxey]

Beautifully done. The time and care taken are paying off big time!

[clogger]

No Idea, I’ve been so intimidated by your incredible build that I confess I couldn’t look anymore as I fear I would have given up on my far more inferior efforts.  However I am at last at the rigging stage with my 1/36 Le Rochefort. Hope you don’t mind me sharing my ship.

Don’t look too closely as there are a lot of little errors. 

[No Idea]

Hi clogger - wow mate your build looks amazing 🤩. Fantastic job and I hope my finished ship looks a good as yours. 
 

I should have said that I never intended to rig my ship purely down to its size. Yours is the first Le Rochefort that I’ve seen rigged as such and it really finishes it beautifully. Maybe I’ll change my mind if I can find a place big enough to keep it.  Thanks for sharing your picture 👍

Edited December 8, 2022 by No Idea
Added comments

[clogger]

Thanks No Idea. 

 

BTW a rigged version of your ship would be the ultimate reference for every future Le Rochefort builder!

[Tonphil1960]

Mark, we've been following your excellent work all this time. You must rig it if only to keep your followers happy ! 

[No Idea]

On 12/8/2022 at 8:42 PM, clogger said:

Thanks No Idea. 

 

BTW a rigged version of your ship would be the ultimate reference for every future Le Rochefort builder!

 

8 hours ago, Tonphil1960 said:

Mark, we've been following your excellent work all this time. You must rig it if only to keep your followers happy ! 

 

Hi both - This is one of those things that I'll need to decide nearer the time as it's so far away.  Thank you for your very kind words I'm hoping to get the ceiling finished in the next 2 weeks.  Our Granddaughter (She's 10 weeks old and beautiful ) has been taking up much our spare time but what a great way to spend it  

[druxey]

Congrats on the addition to your family! 

[Tonphil1960]

Congrats, nothing better than grandkids ! 

[James G]

Congratulations on the arrival of your granddaughter. Grands are the best!!!

[No Idea]

On 12/9/2022 at 10:59 PM, druxey said:

Congrats on the addition to your family! 

 

11 hours ago, Tonphil1960 said:

Congrats, nothing better than grandkids ! 

 

1 hour ago, James G said:

Congratulations on the arrival of your granddaughter. Grands are the best!!!

Thanks very much all   She's lovely and they grow up so fast.  This is our 7th grandchild so Christmas is getting very expensive now! 

[ChrisLBren]

Congrats Mark !!!!!

[Tobias]

Congratulations Mark.
I know what it's like to have less time - one of our grandchildren is with us 2-3 times a week because our daughter is a single parent. In the meantime, our grandson visits me regularly in the workshop.

 

[mtaylor]

Congratulations on the little one, Mark.  Spend all the time you want with her.

[No Idea]

Hi All

 

Thanks for the nice comments and Tobias what a great photo!!  So I hope you have all had a nice Xmas and are looking forward to new year.

 

Ok another update from me - I've been getting on to get the ceiling finished and at last I'm very glad to say that it is.

 

A couple more pictures of the process

 

Here's some pictures of it looking very rough and ready.  All of the planks are on but without any sanding and also all of the nails are in place.

 

Pictures of the final sanded finish - There are some gaps but overall I'm quite happy with the way its turned out.

 

Its taken ages to do but but I'm finally there - I've learnt a lot about ceiling planking and I could definitely do better next time around.

 

So next I'll be making the two other lower breast hooks and the stern sleepers.  It'll be nice to actually make a part again  

 

Cheers Mark

[Tonphil1960]

Mark, no matter which other refs I have and or other builds to follow for advice yours is the one, Tobias's will be another.  Looking again closely since I've started mine I may as well just throw all of it in the bin and start over !!  I won't bet its tempting.  Your joinery is fantastic. 

Tony