HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...

[dafi]

So the guns are taken on board but much to hurried, the board of ordnance did not have the time to repaint the carriages in the new color.

 

Have to change that still ...

 

 

 

 

And now just the Trafalgar slice missing 🙂

 

 

XXXDAn
 

[mtaylor]

18 hours ago, dafi said:

Nothing new from me, but a fun and good read 😉

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10455141/visitors-to-nelsons-hms-victory-complain-it-is-too-cramped-and-they-keep-bumping-their-heads/

 

XXXDAn

I guess the visitors will expect the ship to be "modified" so they don't bang their heads?   

 

There's also a good laugh from following one of the links on that page:  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8432416/snowflakes-offended-by-wench-and-peasant/

[dafi]

But ok, it is time to really start the Trafalgar slice.

 

One remembers: Te ship was recommissioned in March 1803. Possibly with the yellow and black lines, no checker yet. If ever or if when this one was applied, I found no contemporary sources. It might well be that the checker was only a post Trafalgar feature.

 

The ship hastily sailed into the Mediterranean Sea where it stayed over winter. In April 1805 it starte it famous cruise to Sicily, Gibraltar, Caribbean Sea and back, chasing Villeneuve. On the return in August the hull was painted while being still on sea. End of August, It entered a refit in Spithead, start of September plenty of paint was delivered, a week later they were out on sea again. Possibly plenty of paint jobs were still ongoing at this moment.

 

The stress of the voyage and the very stressful and time squeezed refit make me think, that the lovely lady possibly already looked a tad shaken already before the battle on 21.10.1805. Especially I imagine plenty on competing touches of paint ...

 

Turners drawings show clearly the build up forecastle with its gun ports. Not to be seen the timber-heads, shown in most contemporary drawings and models. So I adapted those. Not to forget, the drawings show the ship after hasty repairs at Gibraltar, perhaps those were omitted in the reconstruction of this heavily damaged area.

 

For the positioning of the yellow strakes I go closely with Maik´s wonderful analysis of Turners drawings.
https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t7042f1475-HMS-Victory-Spurensuche.html

 

 

First fitted the chain boards with lines of Apoxy Sculpt, my favorite way of doing things like that.

 

 

Then searching for the color split lines with markings on tape ...

 

 

... and a first layer of yellow ochre. Not the real final shade yet, only to find the proportions.

 

XXXDAn

 

[dafi]

After the 2016-slice was rather in a ship shape Bristol fashion, I would like to go another approach for the 1805 slice.

 

In the times when there was no RAL, Pantone or DIN color scales, I would suppose that each barrel of paint had a slightly different shade depending upon its provenance, batch or age. Also each barrel from each batch could have been given a different shade depending upon the intermix of the content or the fading stage as of sun and salt or the rust and dirt sitting on the surface. Also given the accounts that the Vic was painted several times being upon high seas, I would rather expect a nice patchwork of 50 thousand shades of yellow ochre. Yes it´s alive!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And did you discover it? Even the new todays "seamon-pink-hello-kitty" can be found, yes down there, in the left bottom corner, just around the rigol 😉

 

Enjoy, XXXDAn
 

[mtaylor]

Was the yellow a pigment mixed with whitewash or a barrel of yellow paint?   If mixed on the ship, every "mix" would be slightly different....  I'll go to my room now.

[rkwz]

Hi Daniel/Dafi/DAn, I stumbled on your amazing blog and wanted to say thank you for posting an entertaining, educational and inspiring blog!

 

In particular I enjoy seeing the fine scale work and figurines which injects so much life into your model and makes the inner workings of the ship more relatable to land lubbers like me.

 

Hoping to see more posts to satisfy our dafi fix 😄

 

Cheers,

[Charles Race]

Your Victory is simply amazing, and if I may add, quite intimidating to a veteran model builder like me. But nonetheless, I’m resuming my work on the model, thus inspired!  Three questions at this stage:

1.  How did you create the entry port?  I’m talking to my son in law who has a 3-D printer to see if he can replicate. 
2.  Where can I find the copper Plating you used?  I order some BlueJacket and Model Expo but am not satisfied with scale and lack of self-adhesive. 
3. where did you get the hardware for the cannons and did you use the plastic cannons in the kit- doesn’t look like it. 
I’m working to connect the rudder to the steering wheels- so far so good. Pictures to follow...Chuck

[mtaylor]

If you haven't been there, his site has lots of those parts....    http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

[popeye the sailor]

all I can say is WOW Daniel..........this assortment will look fantastic next to a finished model.......  have you considered doing a 'two face' model........one side in one scheme,  the other side in another.  definitely be a 'one of a kind'  

[dafi]

Small sign of life 🙂

 

Heavy times in the office and also very funny moving home at Corona times, as the dozen of helpers had to be reduced to 2 as the local regulations required. 

Also I kept to my credo: knock down and build up again, this time larger scale, the kitchen proved to be the place of my darkest desires. My wife now understands the term of dafinism 😉

 

Only difference is that what used to be a 0,4 mm eyebolt is now a 4000 mm worktop in the the kitchen - a magnification of scale of the factor of 10.000!

Start of March, when life was still almost normal, I was with my Vic and my Soleil at the exhibition at Augsburg. Here some pictures from there and also some from the temporary display of my set of the 4 slices.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am already looking forward to finish the 1803 version 🙂

 

Happy Easter and stay healthy, cheers!

 

XXXDAn

[mtaylor]

You have been busy.  Very busy.   Looking great.

If your wife understands you, she is a keeper.  Stay well.

 

[dafi]

Thank you Mark,

 

yes also looks like the others have plenty of time to build, I had plenty of etch and resin parts to deliver 🙂

 

Luckily "c" does not affect me in this way, just the posting is a bit strange as the cue in front of the post-office is sometimes a 100 Meters long due to the distance regulations.

 

All the best and stay well too, Daniel

Edited April 14, 2020 by dafi

[dafi]

On 4/8/2020 at 6:28 PM, Charles Race said:

Your Victory is simply amazing, and if I may add, quite intimidating to a veteran model builder like me. But nonetheless, I’m resuming my work on the model, thus inspired!  Three questions at this stage:

1.  How did you create the entry port?  I’m talking to my son in law who has a 3-D printer to see if he can replicate. 
2.  Where can I find the copper Plating you used?  I order some BlueJacket and Model Expo but am not satisfied with scale and lack of self-adhesive. 
3. where did you get the hardware for the cannons and did you use the plastic cannons in the kit- doesn’t look like it. 
I’m working to connect the rudder to the steering wheels- so far so good. Pictures to follow...Chuck

Hello @Charles Race

 

1 The entry port was created the conventional way by tinkering 🙂

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=151797

 

2 This was self-adhesive Copperfoil from a role from the tiffany shot. Width about 4 mm, check on your hull the sizes you need. 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1274

 

3 These are the cannons from the kit 🙂 Just a bit detailed wit hooks and the gun monogram from my etch parts ...

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=69202

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=73019

http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html#anker5

 

Hope that helps, Daniel

[druxey]

Your display of her side through time is very impressive. Congratulations on a very fine job of research as well as painting. The rigged fore chains with stowed anchor presentation looks intriguing. The Augsburg show would have been fun to attend!

[dafi]

Thank you Druxey and Mark!

 

XXXDan

[dafi]

What happened so far ...

 

But what is this?

Is nature trying to get her rights back?

New home, new life, only the intended tinkering area is still under construction :-0

 

First Emergency-workplace was not too successful as every tool proved to take ages to be located in the moving boxes ...

Also the place in the gardens was nice but good for fitness as all the necessary tools were still missing ...

... but at least it was flowerpower!

... as then my bottle-ship decided to part from this world ...

... it was time to CLEAR.

Then finally my sweet litte darling came back to stay with me 🙂

 

So than working tools out on the table ...

... and lets have some fun tinkering! The chains for the 1805 slice are needed to be done. And I already managed to blacken them.

Hope to see you soon again 🙂

 

XXXDAn

Edited May 6, 2020 by dafi

[druxey]

Sorry about your unglück, Dafi. But congratulations on your new jungle - I mean, workshop! It always takes time to relocate everything in a new setting and hope you enjoy your new space.

[dafi]

News from the new man cave 🙂

 

Need some deadeyes for the 1805 slice.

 

First try to make a barrel grinder some times ago did not really work: The sanding paper was too fine and too weak. Also one wing gave up quite fast.

 

 

So did some research and build a new one, this time better and stiffer paper, took 3 sheets with staggered length and a broader axis to be able to tack the sheets properly together. 

 

 

 

The barrel is fixed with a M3 screw.

 

 

 

 

First I used my Proxxon but this one was too weak as was to be smelled immediately ...

 

So took the stronger Dremel. Height and side direction have to be adjusted well, or the machine gets hot immediately.

 

Set the Dremel to step 2 and twice 10 minutes and the deadeyes are well done, depending your taste 🙂

 

Used the good deadeyes from the Syren shop. Last time using PVC the parts have shifted a little laterally 😞

 

Also using slow binding CA I had this experience, so I build a gauge to press everything together properly in place.

 

 

 

 

Result: Dropping-dead-sharp deadeyes 🙂

 

 

Tumbled and done.

 

 

Here as a comparison the 5 mm Krick deadeyes. On top à la natüre, then tumbled - it really does a good job on them - and on the bottom with the notches for the lanyards, and a Syren deadeye for comparison.

 

 

XXXDAn

[dafi]

But some small bit I still managed to do yesterday:

 

First organised the parts on slightly adhesive tape for not messing up the running order of the different lengths.

 

 

Then fixed the iron supports ...

 

 

... and as usual started with the shorter irons of the smaller deadeyes.

 

 

That was the state of yesterday night, just to remember, there will still be a batten in front of the board hiding the slots.

 

 

XXXDAn

[hexnut]

I always love your hyper-detail updates.  I am making the same face as all those deadeyes!  😮

 

[dafi]

Thank you Bob!

 

And 🙂 if things speed up, they speed up 🙂

 

Missing the mast for proper alignment, I put some irons in the middle as spacers for orientation.

 

 

And suddenly things are done.

 

 

 

Knowing my fat fingers, I will do the final alignment just before the final finish.

 

And too, looks like I need better light on my working place - for better enlightment and pictures 😉

 

 

XXXDAn

[rkwz]

In awe as always at the precision of your work! The weathering on the hull looks amazing too.

[dafi]

Thank you, rkwz!

 

Used the good weather and found a nice place for my rope walk 🙂

 

XXXDAn

[Paulh]

Hi daffy,loved your build of the victory.

Did you have any problems with large sink marks on the stern gallery ?

I have 2 kits both with the problem ,both unrepairable!

I can repair and scratch build most things but will have to ask Heller for replacements

Hope no one else has this problem but I would not be surprised 

[dafi]

Hello @Paulh, sorry to hear. As far as I remember, there was no problems with the kits I bought, must be about 6 or seven sets. Do you want to show a picture?

 

XXXDAn

[Paulh]

Hi daffy,loved your build of the victory.

Did you have any problems with large sink marks on the stern gallery ?

I have 2 kits both with the problem ,both unrepairable!

I can repair and scratch build most things but will have to ask Heller for replacements

Hope no one else has this problem but I would not be surprised 

[Paulh]

Sorry for the fuzzy image ,hope you can still see the sink marks

Still to send off request form to Heller for replacements

To clarify my history on the subject, the first kit was a present from my son.

After checking the contents I was surprised if was short off approx.1/3 parts !!!!

I contacted the seller via Amazon and a brand new kit was supplied but still 

Have a problem , more than disappointed but hope the problem solved

[dafi]

Hello Paul, this is new to me and bad for you 😞

 

Also never saw a white cast, perhaps that is the explanation. Ask the actual hotline (glow2be?). I already got once replacement parts and other builder did so too. It might take some time without feedback but they delivered in the end.

 

XXXDAn

[Paulh]

Thanks for the info ..colour distortion on the photos ,both normal casting .

 

[dafi]

No, I mean that the white plastic could be another quality that enabled to get the marks. The brown one usually used was apparently a better choice.

 

XXXDAn