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For the highlight figures like officers I use more care and putty but also lot of paper as for the frog tails, belts and other stuff. For the common seamen I usually just scratch off all modern items as pockets, watches and zips 🙂 The rest is done by then paint.

 

The plastic is a good one, just like the kit itself, so no problem in putting putty and paint, not like the airfix 1/72 figures that are done in a soft plastic.

 

XXXDAn

 

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The days I have again made some guns, 2 horizontal, two lashed upwards, one with etched parts but unpainted and an old one painted but without etch parts.

 

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Then some shipwrights came by and installed a makeshift deck in the aft capstan area. The caulkers came also immediately and left a giant mess with their tow and tar ...

 

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I'll spare you the curses of the sailors who had to clear the deck, they were terrible, but afterwards the whole thing looked passable again.

 

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Here is shown the area covered by the capstan bars´ radius.

 

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And this is where the guns come into play: in their normal position, they are simply in the way of the spars. But stowed lengthwise on the ship's side, it looks much more spill user-friendly.

 

Here in the lashed position with the muzzle on top, without chair and the coin.

 

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Here with the barrel in the horizontal position, chair and coin inserted.

 

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And just to check: even when run out, it's not enough for a decent bar radius.

 

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It remains exciting 🙂

 

XXXDAn

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Hi Dan,

She is gorgeous.   Sorry to jump in on this build, but as you're are a fan of Victory, and as you have so many followers I hope you don't mind a little hijack to get the word out on Nelson and  the Trafalgar TV series that is in the works.   Lots to be told about it, but easiest is to check out the screenwriter's post here at MSW in the Nautical and Naval history section under New podcast/tv series about Nelson and Maritime Britain during the Trafalgar period.   Anyone interested in Victory or any of Nelson's history should find this project fascinating.

 

Thanks

 

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Thank you Sirs 🙂

 

Once you take a look at the whole thing manned, you immediately see how tight it is inside and out.

 

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Seen from above, it's clear that even the diving away under the swifter and running back that some people assume will be somewhat difficult here, and could quickly throw the others out of rhythm. If, while the bars are being inserted, the rest of the crew is heaving the guns over, a smooth work flow is guaranteed while turning. I'm not talking about work safety here but of a smooth rotating flow 🙂

 

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The Swifter was led by a notch at the end of the bars. Whether there was only ever a knot in front and behind the bar or whether it was secured for example by a half hitch I will still find out.

 

Interesting also in the lower perspective. Jumping over the guns wasn't possible there either, the deck beams were only a few centimeters above the

heads, and the outer sailors probably have to watch out with the hanging knees anyway ...

 

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Here you can see it nicely what I mean, at 0:15 - This action combined with deck beams one would then hear a rhythmic "Klock" when hard wood (sailor's thick head) hits hard wood (deck beams) ... 

 

Jumping the gun

 

Simply delightful to see. 

 

And for the naval officers in the boats finally a possibility to look unpunished under skirts, as the girls up there come along on the spar ...

 

It remains exciting 🙂

 

XXXDAn
 

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Nice demonstration, dafi. If you are planning on actually manning the capstan in your model, remember that they gripped the bars thumbs upward and palms towards them. (This was to avoid broken forearms should the capstan kick back.) So often the wrong grip is shown, like pushing a baby stroller or bike.

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2 hours ago, druxey said:

... remember that they gripped the bars thumbs upward and palms towards them. (This was to avoid broken forearms should the capstan kick back.)

... which was the most practical posture, given that they often put their chest into it to push the bar. Oddly, though, the  contemporary pictorial record frequently depicts seamen carelessly pushing the bars with their hands. Perhaps this was a casual approach used to take up a slack cable before the real work began. 

 

The guy on the right in the black cap is definitely a slacker, but then again, there's nothing on the drum!

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The men to the left are doing it right. The men to the right aren't. Likely "artistic license" in this engraving.

Stock Photo: Engraving showing Royal Navy sailors and soldiers from a Scottish Regiment manning a capstan, whilst a Scotch piper stands on the capstan to give them some.

 

It seems the Finnish Navy did things differently, but there doesn't appear to be anything on the drum in this apparently posed photo. I mean, really, who mans a capstan in their dress blues?

Sailors 'manning the capstan', elevated view (B&W) : News Photo

 

Doing it right, but again, everybody's in their Class A's and this steam screw vessel appears underway at sea with white-painted anchor chain secured, clean and Bristol fashion, so what are they hauling, anyway?

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Germans, correctly putting their backs into it like they actually might be doing some real work.

Stock photo of VARIOUS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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