amateur Posted August 15, 2015 Share #1111 Posted August 15, 2015 ist aber nicht online....(oder: kann es nicht finden) Jan dafi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share #1112 Posted August 15, 2015 Figure 321 if that helps :-) You have a link for the online edition of the text books? Cheers, Daniel robin b 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share #1113 Posted August 15, 2015 Just found tome 4 :-) https://ia902700.us.archive.org/2/items/bub_gb_SOZWAAAAcAAJ/bub_gb_SOZWAAAAcAAJ.pdf XXXDAn robin b 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybakov Posted August 15, 2015 Share #1114 Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Well Dafi, thanks for the link, a good book. My German is nonexistent, but I got the impression that it would be a sort of clamp to be put over the gun axle and nailed to the deck to secure the guns, I'm I right??? On a non related matter: why would a german book have so many portuguese fishing and river boats??? Cheers Zeh Edited August 15, 2015 by rybakov mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 15, 2015 Share #1115 Posted August 15, 2015 No, it is a temporary replacement of a wheel. (To be nailed over the gun ale, in case the wheel iis damaged through enemy fire) Your. 1:100 version has no way to nail it as shown in the book the only thing I wonder: assume a wheel is shot away during battle, how on earth do you nail such a thing under a gun truck, while a heated 3tons heavy gun is on that truck, and enemy fire is all around? And the bok is very nice (its a pity that google does not scan the fold-out pages properly...) reading those books you can not but conclude that re-using pictures of other people was very common in earlier days. Quite a lit of pictures from this book are very familiar fromother books.... Jan mtaylor, dafi and rybakov 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share #1116 Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Hello Jan perfectly right. This is is a replacement "slide" in case the original axis is damaged and no spare wheel could be fixed. I think with the adrenalin up the crew would manage to somehow lift the gun by the means of jacks or levers to replace the missing wheel. The half wheel has the square hole to fit the original axxis and the missing "wings" are no problem if the nails go in at an angle of 45°, anyway much easier to hammer ;-) Röding was a tea merchant that published his work in between 1793 and 1798, so being contemporary to Steel. His work even went straight into the first german Deutsches Wörterbuch (English: The German Dictionary) from Brothers Grimm in 1838 (also known for their fairy tales collection). XXXDAn Edited August 15, 2015 by dafi lambsbk, popeye the sailor, robin b and 1 other 4 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share #1117 Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Coming events are casting their chests before ... XXXDAn Edited August 19, 2015 by dafi popeye the sailor, Beef Wellington, Kevin and 7 others 10 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share #1118 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) And now, wittness a moment of historical grandeur: It is finally invented, the WIMMELMODEL! Look for the 3 minions ... ... papagena ... ... banana ... ... bunda ... ...hihihihihihi... XXXDAn Edited August 20, 2015 by dafi CaptainSteve, Dubz, clearway and 4 others 7 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share #1119 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) "... whon knows were this will end ..." This will end straight in the heart of the year 2525 ... ... or sooner ... ... or later ... XXXDAn Edited August 20, 2015 by dafi CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 20, 2015 Share #1120 Posted August 20, 2015 btw, will you follow the newest insights on her colour at Trafalgar, or will yours be Vic as all people born before the year 2000 will remeber her? Jan mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share #1121 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Too much "Hello Kitty" That was Nelsons biggest trick: The paint: The french lying on the decks of laughter and could not fight any more properly ´cos of the tears in their eyes ;-) XXXDAn See also: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11229-hms-victory-re-paint/#entry341339 Edited August 20, 2015 by dafi CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 20, 2015 Share #1122 Posted August 20, 2015 That link made me ask the question I thought you like kittens? Jan mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 21, 2015 Share #1123 Posted August 21, 2015 quite the mass production Daniel.........did you manage to maintain some sanity? very nicely done mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share #1124 Posted August 22, 2015 Mass Production? No problem. Here you can see my minion Kevin producing the barrels and buckets. Next he had to pack the chests. On this Vic, they were not for the personal belongings of the sailors but belonged for the gear of the mess: spare parts for the guns, cleaning and mending, coocking and dining, short everything that could be needed on short notice without having to go to the stores in the orlop. Then my yellow ones distributed the barrels and buckets. The barrels were for the already distributed rations of the mess, one had a convenient size to sit on. The buckets were for catching food from the galley, for cleaning and for the shitting in bad weather - please guys make sure not to mix them up! Here able seaman George is checking if the chest with the spare equipment of the guns is properly packed - the surplus tackles and the slide trucks in case the axxis of the carriage is shot of - everything looks fine :-) And what is in the kits? There were the personal belongings of the sailors, look, here someone is searching for something inside ... Cheers, Daniel riverboat, GuntherMT, mtaylor and 16 others 19 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted August 22, 2015 Share #1125 Posted August 22, 2015 Dafi....not only to you do awesome work....you're comments are entertaining also :D frank docidle, zoly99sask, dafi and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #1126 Posted September 21, 2015 Pftttt... ... ... all that dust ... *blow* ... oh damn, where are you, can´t see you any more! ... ... does Anybody recognise my smells?XXXDAn *waitingforthedusttogodown* Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #1127 Posted September 21, 2015 Oh ... ...something appears ... ... XXXDAn popeye the sailor, Kevin, druxey and 6 others 9 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 21, 2015 Share #1128 Posted September 21, 2015 fix some canvas, and call in the artist:) dafi and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #1129 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) OK Jan, canvas I will fix just for you to call me artist ;-) XXXDAn Edited September 22, 2015 by dafi mtaylor 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share #1130 Posted September 22, 2015 ... and who´s up for some dirty laundry with me? ... ... XXXDAn popeye the sailor, Dubz, CaptainSteve and 7 others 10 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted September 22, 2015 Share #1131 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Dirty laundry or dirty bulkheads for the cabins... either way.. they need scrubbing. Edited September 22, 2015 by mtaylor Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share #1132 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) So then I took out the canvas for some artistry, just to please Jan ;-) Those officer´s cods kept me busy for almost 2 months ... ... first busy at work and then lot of wrong trials. First tried to pimp the cardboard pieces I used to determine the size of the cabins. Looked crap ... Then thinner cardboard - looked crap too ... Then i forgot how I did the canvas for the bulkheads - lot of crappy trials with crappy results ... Then the canvas alone - too sloppy ... Then inserted the bottom frame but the sides - too sloppy ... Only when I introduced the top lathes like in the original, then it works - result, keep as close to the original as possible :-) And then the same game with the hangers. First tricked myself by trying to trick ... Then the next try with the rope looped through with the wrong result of the rope coming out just one side. Looked again at the original and knotted the 6 ropes each of them single. Looked already better but the top knot looked too messy still. So used a comb to organise the ropes ... ... and it already looked better :-) Fitted together ... ... put the laundry ... ... and dry fitted. Cheers, Daniel Edited September 22, 2015 by dafi ianmajor, clearway, _SalD_ and 23 others 26 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcatkt Posted September 23, 2015 Share #1133 Posted September 23, 2015 I have officially decided to quit my job, get shrunken and come live onboard. It's too much a piece of living art!!! CaptainSteve, docidle, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote 1775 / 1893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted September 23, 2015 Share #1134 Posted September 23, 2015 That's some awesome!!! modelling Dafi....... well done!! frank md1400cs, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 23, 2015 Share #1135 Posted September 23, 2015 I've only started to look through your log from the beginning, Daniel. Amazing work at that scale indeed. And the amount of detail you are putting in is extraordinary. Probably the most un-kit-like kit model in existence! dafi and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 23, 2015 Share #1136 Posted September 23, 2015 amazing work Daniel Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docidle Posted September 24, 2015 Share #1137 Posted September 24, 2015 At this moment in time Dan, all I can say is WOW. Steve dafi, WackoWolf and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan ShipFinished: Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)Revell 1/72 Hanse KoggeRevell 1/50 Viking ShipRevell 1/72 U-BoatZvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas Revell 1/90 The Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted September 24, 2015 Share #1138 Posted September 24, 2015 Holy cow What amazing work CaptainSteve 1 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share #1139 Posted September 25, 2015 Thank you Orca, Frank, Drux, Popeye, Steve and Jp!And all the others of course for all the clicks and likes - always eager to please :-) @Orca - be my guest you are more than welcome, but do not think you get more than a pint of rum for those extra accolades, and careful, the catty´o´9´tails is waiting if you are overdoing! @druxey - Yes it was an interesting journey and I too do enjoy to look back to the start. Never thought it would end (?) like this when I bought the kit. Just came out naturally :-) Cheers to you all, Daniel CaptainSteve, lambsbk, docidle and 4 others 7 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share #1140 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) And the next adventuere started here on MSW with some pictures of the official start of exchanging the copper on the Constitution. Great picture I thought, and interesting the damages on the left top of the picture. But then I saw the same thing on other photos and realised them being too even. And on top of it symmetrical to the other side ... ... time to have a closer look. So then developed a treasure hunt over several forums, many helping and each revealing some new hints. The more qualified opinions went soon direction of a rudder lift, in case the rudder has to be put back into it´s hinges. Chapman gave the hint, that those holes was also mentioned in the 1930´s plans, with 2" diameter and inside lead. So must must have served a purpose. By that time I found holes like these on plenty of rudders. Then appeared drawings from Nares and MSW that showed emergency rudders with the use of those hole. In my german forum I got a link to a picture of the rudder of St. George in Thorsminde showing the same holes and I was done: Time to drill two small holes :-) And here the tackles that were used according to Nares and MSW: The aft ones served to lift the rudder and the fore ones to juggle the pins into the hinges. Once done, the rope was easily to be retrieved. So the mystery about the holes is getting clearer, I will take the tackles down soon as they were only used to reship the rudder :-) Cheers, Daniel More to the topic: Thinking things through: The mysterious holes in the rudder, rudder lift? Edited September 27, 2015 by dafi mtaylor, Kevin, clearway and 15 others 18 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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