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Prime detective work, Daniel.   By the time you're done, you should be awarded a PhD in HMS Victory and 18th Century ships and shipboard life.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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I would think you would leave the tackle in place until construction was completed!  What if the rudder drops onto a shipyard worker or similar?  The liability suit may well stall the build progress for quite sometime with investigations to be completed and appealed etc.

 

The level of research you have put into this is simply amazing.  I would even suggest your build log would be worthy of publishing as a book once you are done.  That is assuming you ever get there, how many years has it been so far?  HAHA

 

As far as moving aboard goes, I would rather have an officers space, somewhere clean.  And I will be sure to keep the minions, sailors and marines looking their sharpest for your display casing!  My wage expectations are meager and are in line with current market expectations of an officer rank in HMS Victory's service.

1775 / 1893

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Thank you Mark and Orca!

 

@Orca: Officer´s space is ok, but clean I will do my best ...

 

Please state your definition of clean ;-)

 

XXXDAn

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one more 'X' for the magnifying glass of detail  ;)    the presence of bolts around these holes must have been a definite clue.   very interesting bit of sleuthing Daniel  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

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Daniel,

 

Thanks for link. Your essay was very well written, well done. Anything new on your build?

 

Steve

Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan Ship

Finished:

Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)
Revell 1/72 Hanse Kogge
Revell 1/50 Viking Ship
Revell 1/72 U-Boat
Zvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas

Revell 1/90 The Nina

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Very interesting essay Dafi........ you're a pretty special guy to us here at  MSW, and to the rest of the ship modeling world. Thanks for sharing your talents.

 

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

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A lifesign!

 

And a big X-Mess-Greeting from dafi with a small quizz:

 

Where was I at yesterdays X-Mess-Walkies? Think in german, even if it is hard ;-)

 

SMS-Trinkstein_151224_8622.jpg

 

XXXTHEdafi

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Hmm... good to see you're not lost wandering about in the Stone Frigate Navy, Dafi.     :D

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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YES Mark - SMS-Trinkstein, the stone frigate :-)

(drink + stone = trink + Stein = Trinkstein)

 

My heart will go on!

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/349-sms-trinkstein-by-dafi-sos-stone-on-soil-flush-deck-frigate-of-the-austrian-mountain-navy/page-2#entry374670

 

Merry X-Mess, XXXDAn

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Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Thank you Jan, all the best greetings for you too and the rest of the board!!!

Cheers, Daniel

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**** happens - when I wanted to order more etch in summer, I realised having lost the original film pockets.

 

...

 

Big ****!

 

But as one says, make an opportunity out of it I used the chance to rearrange some parts from one plate to another as it made more sense an to add one or two goodies. Nothing big, almost the same, but next it made me aware to update the instructions too. So I took a spare hull and went sticking all golden parts onto it :-)

 

Here are the first pictures of the basic version, the more elaborate work out will come on the other side after the holidays.

 

Best place to start? Big Boyz - Big Gunz!!!

 

Victory-etch_guns_8215.jpg

 

If the etch still are too thick, one can use a soldering iron ...

 

Victory-etch_gun-monogram_8238.jpg

 

... and sink one specimen into some sheet to get a nice template for the rest ...

 

Victory-etch_gun-monogram_8231.jpg

 

... to file down the back from 0,2 mm thickness to something like 0,12 mm.

 

Victory-etch_gun-monogram_8235.jpg

 

Then still adding the flaps ...

 

Victory-etch_gun-flaps_8247.jpg

 

... and Big Gunz are in place ...

 

Victory-etch_great-guns_8254b.jpg

 

... and the smaller ones along the hull.

 

Victory-etch_cabins_8560.jpg

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As we are already underneath the poop ...
 
Victory-etch_cabins_8313.jpg
 
... we have wheel and binnacle ...
 
Victory-Etch_binnical_8395.jpg
 
... and a closed lid.
 
Victory-etch_buckets_8589.jpg
 
The handles for the buckets are already provided.
 
Victory-etch_buckets_8515.jpg
 
The highlight is of course the skylight. Just add the missing deck beams ...
 
Victory-etch_skylight_8393.jpg
 
Victory-etch_skylight_8394.jpg
 
... and place the light.
 
Victory-etch_skylight_8562.jpg
 
Of course the skylight should be some 3 feet more aback, but this as skilled modeler always will be able to do :-)
 

 

 

XXXDAn

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Dafi yr work never fails to amaze me

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And on we go :-)

 
Important for the Big Gunz are the gun port lids. Sandet even and fixed with double sided tape the fittings are easy to place.
 
Victory-etch_gun-port-hinge_8338.jpg
 
Here the adaption for the doubling of the whales ...
 
Victory-etch_gun-port-hinge_8323.jpg
 
... and in place with the rigols.
 
Victory-etch_gun-port-hinge_8331.jpg
 
New ist that the hinges for the stern ports come in the right lengths ...
 
Victory-etch_stern-port_8265.jpg
 
... and the fittings for the beakhead bulkhead are now included :-)
 
Victory-etch_beakhead-bulkhead_8269.jpg
 
Here the right scheme for the openings for the mariners walk ...
 
Victory-etch_mariners%20walk_8517.jpg
 
... the old holes are closed with the cut outs.
 
The bar for the netting of the heads ...
 
Victory-etch_bow_8512.jpg
 
... and timberheads in place ...
 
Victory-etch_bow_8578.jpg
 
... even though I forgot to put the butluvs.
 
For drilling the hammock crane holders I used some left overs as template ...
 
Victory-etch_hammock-crane_8563.jpg
 
... and the cranes can be positioned easily ...
 
Victory-etch_hammock-crane_8574.jpg
 
... even if different sizes come together like in the start of the poopdeck.
 
Victory-etch_hammock-crane_8580.jpg

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Highly discussed is the side entry port. If one do not want to miss it there is an option :-)

 

Saw an opening, line it with sheet ...

 

Victory-etch_side-entry-port_8523.jpg

 

... prepare the distance of the steps onto a tape and place it, transfer ...

 

Victory-etch_side-entry-port_8544.jpg

 

... and glue the steps on.

 

Victory-etch_side-entry-port_8547.jpg

 

And done - ok looks easier than actually doing it ;-)

 

Victory-etch_side-entry-port_8550.jpg

 

 

Most changes were done in the channels. The middle one of the irons changed, instead of a small gap the part is bent out and has a overlap, so that the parts can be more neatly closed. As I now always deliver the needles I omitted the old alternative fixing helps and got space for more spare parts.

 

Here is the standard build with the Heller deadeyes, the use of wooden ones will be shown too later on.

 

First starting with the main channel boards. The missing fifth iron support is there as it is meant to be.

 

Victory-etch_chains_8391.jpg

 

The main and mizzen channels should have the width of their holes reduced by half by placing some 0,5 x 1 mm Evergreen on the hull´s side ...

 

Victory-etch_channels_8505.jpg

 

Victory-etch_channels_8508.jpg

 

... while the fore ones need more attention. Close the old holes completely and enlarge the width of the channel using 2 layers of 1 x 1 mm Evergreen - it is easier than doing it with one bar of 1 x 2 mm :-).

 

File in new slots deep 0,5 mm , the first ones vertical ...

 

Victory-etch_channels_8470.jpg

 

... and the last ones more angeled fitting direction towards the maintop. Close it with a bar of 0,5 x 1 mm Evergreen ...

 

Victory-etch_channels_8471.jpg

 

... and the boards are finally large enough to avoid the deadeyes to interfere with the hammock cranes.

 

Victory-etch_channels_8480.jpg

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As the deadeyes vary a tad in diameter open up the irons as necessary ...

 

Victory-etch_chains-deadeyes_8445.jpg

 

... and place the deadeyes the right way round. The complete plate looks like this.

 

Victory-etch_chains-deadeyes_8448.jpg

 

To avoid bending the parts always cut the complete set of an iron ...

 

Victory-etch_chains-deadeyes_8483.jpg

 

... place it in the slots, fix with the needle and put some superglue ...

 

Victory-etch_chains-deadeyes_8491.jpg

 

... onto the backside of the iron underneath the board ...

 

Victory-etch_chains-deadeyes_8492.jpg

 

... and use a string to pull the deadeye in place in the right direction and hold still until the glue sets.

 

And finished it looks like this:

 

Victory-etch_channels_8573.jpg

 

Victory-etch_channels_8575.jpg

 

Victory-etch_channels_8576.jpg

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And now todays last part.
 
Still working on the deck. Here are the correct lengths of the gratings as seen today ...
 
Victory-etch_deck-grating_8565.jpg
 
... the pikes of the fore ...
 
Victory-etch_deck-grating_8579.jpg
 
... and the main ...
 
Victory-etch_deck-pikes_8569.jpg
 
... and the belfry.
 
Victory-etch_deck-bell_8568.jpg
 
So that´s it, more from one of my many working areas soon after returning home from my holiday :-)
 

 

XXXDAn

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Awesome... super.... and it looks good too.   Great job on the etch, Daniel and it looks really superb in place.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thank you Kevin, Dirk, Robin, Mark and avs for the nice comments and all the others for the many likes!

 

And for all of you only the best new year wishes, DAniel

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Hi Daniel,

 

There is somethinhg i don't understand: on pics of the Vid, it can be seen taht the forechannels are about as wide as the postlids are high. (The open lids of the upper row of guns can be seen almost in line with the outer edge of the channels.

It looks as if your channels are much wider than that. Is that optic illusion, or are you hammock cranes too wide compared to the orriginal?

7-victory_029-115-1177067894.jpg

 

Jan

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Nice picture haven´t realised this yet. Thank you!

 

These cranes appear shorter in this setup. My reference was McKay where the fore and main channels have almost the same width and the cranes are higher.

 

Cheers, Daniel

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......and Dr. Dafi rides again!!!  :D   awesomely good work!    I forgot that you have photo etch.........I ordered some from Ages of Sail.  one can never have enough........as you have shown......!   I have your site.    :ph34r:  

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Happy new year to you all!

 
Finally managed to do something on my main build, slowly one step a day literally ;-)
 
The biggest empty spaces on the lower deck are due to the missing companionways, so lets fill those gaps ...
 
Victory-companionway_9176.jpg
 
The ladders on the right should have the same upward orientation in the middle as the one on the left, but i buzzed it ...
Was this to adapt to a possible list of the ship?
 
Then comes the dry fit ...
 
Victory-companionway_9180.jpg
 
... and one does see immediately ...
 
Victory-companionway_9185.jpg
 
... why they were removable and could be off set without further trouble.
 
The aft companionways show that even better ...
 
Victory-companionway_9181.jpg
 
... big obstruction ...
 
Victory-companionway_9184.jpg
 
... but set aside as fast as the the deck pillars :-)
 
Victory-companionway_9188.jpg
 
Cheers, Daniel

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ES REALMENTE HERMOSO SU TRABAJO,MUY APRECIADO DE MI PARTE ES UNA OBRA DE ARTE,,,ESTOY INTENTANDO HACER UN  BARCO ANTIGUO DE PIRATAS POR FAVOR ME PODRIA AYUDAR A ENCONTRAR PLANOS PARA HACERLOS EN MIS HORAS LIBRES Y DEJAR EL ABURRIMIENTO ,,,SALUDO SDESDE PERU

DONDE ENCUENTRO POR FAVOR LOS PLANOS PARA HACER ESTE BARCO..GRACIAS QUE TENGA UN BUEN FIN DE SEMANA

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On the way to new endeavours on the way to Victory ...

 

ddafi-the-hammer.jpg

 

Lets see if it works :-)

 

XXXDAn

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