lawrence Posted January 9, 2014 #451 Posted January 9, 2014 Hi Lawrence, The length of the 32 pounder is just over 50mm. Hi chris my apologies,having re-read my e-mail I realised that I have not explained very well at all. What I really wanted to know is the measurements of a full size gun carriage from the victory,In order to scale it to fit the 32 pounder that my friend made for me. Many Thanks Lawrence Thunder 1
joemo Posted January 9, 2014 #452 Posted January 9, 2014 Richard, The Victory kit is not released yet by Amati, they are rebuilding their web site. Joe
rtropp Posted January 9, 2014 #453 Posted January 9, 2014 Thanks Joe, I hope someone posts when the Victory is ready. Richard RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
Ulises Victoria Posted January 9, 2014 #454 Posted January 9, 2014 Thanks Joe, I hope someone posts when the Victory is ready. Richard Fear not! There is a huge bunch of folks here waiting for that notice!!! There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Jaxboat Posted January 9, 2014 #455 Posted January 9, 2014 Dang! The kit weighs 18 KG? I need to start working out! Best Jaxboat
Craigie65 Posted January 9, 2014 #456 Posted January 9, 2014 Dang! The kit weighs 18 KG? I need to start working out! Best Jaxboat And get a bigger letterbox Jaxboat 1 Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
mtaylor Posted January 10, 2014 #457 Posted January 10, 2014 Chris, If you're having quoting issues or issues posting pictures, check what version of IE you're on. If IE11, uninstall the upgrade and reboot to roll it back to IE10. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
chris watton Posted January 10, 2014 #458 Posted January 10, 2014 Yep, definite quoting and linking issues with IE11, also can't post links to pictures from my Webshots account too! I can quote if I click 'quote' to open in another tab, but if I simply click 'quote', I get nothing! Oh, the weight for the Victory is pure speculation on my part, I know the actual model weighs about 8kg, so if that's doubled, that should be more or less the weight of the kit - I know that the Vanguard plans and instructions alone weighed more than a complete Lady nelson kit! Jaxboat 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Ulises Victoria Posted January 10, 2014 #459 Posted January 10, 2014 I don't know what issues you guys are talking about. I use Google Chrome and never ever had an issue. There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
DiKri Posted January 10, 2014 #460 Posted January 10, 2014 If you're having quoting issues or issues posting pictures, check what version of IE you're on. If IE11, uninstall the upgrade and reboot to roll it back to IE10. Within Internet Explorer, look in the menu: Tools/Compatibility View Settings. There you can add the website that doesn't work properly with IE11 to the list. For the sites in this list, IE will behave as an older version. No guarantee that it works, but worth a try... Current build: Wasa (Corel) Already build: HMS Fly (Victory Models)
amateur Posted January 10, 2014 #461 Posted January 10, 2014 Nope, will not solve the problem (at least, it didn't do the trick for me) Jan
mtaylor Posted January 10, 2014 #462 Posted January 10, 2014 Chris (and others) See this thead: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4968-functionality/ There's a post on how to uninstall IE 11. Or just Google "uninstall IE 11". Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Keith_W Posted February 2, 2014 #463 Posted February 2, 2014 You could always leave sections of hull planking off. If you look through the gun and entry ports, you can still clearly see that they are full assemblies, and you can see other deck detail, too. Also, with the gratings off, you can see right down to the orlop - plus of course, you can have the stern windows in their open position, so you can look right down the gun decks. I wanted to do a kit where, no matter how hard you looked, there'd always be detail. Bellona was the test bed and Victory is the result. Hi Chris, I have been over this thread several times. Unfortunately most of your earlier pictures were lost in The Great Crash. I would dearly love to know more about the construction, and more about what the ship would look like if planks were left off. Would you happen to have these pictures, and if it is not too much trouble - could you please repost them? Also, have you heard anything from Amati as to when this kit will be released? Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
chris watton Posted February 3, 2014 #464 Posted February 3, 2014 Hi amfibius, I don't think I really started the prototype of Victory before the 'great crash', so all the photos I posted are on this thread. I am working on Victory (and Roman warship) right now, so I am not sure when Victory will be released yet. Cheers, Chris Vanguard Models on Facebook
Keith_W Posted February 3, 2014 #465 Posted February 3, 2014 Thanks for the reply, Chris. I thought that you had finished the Victory and delivered it to Amati? I take it you are working on the plans and instructions? Do you have any other pictures of the interior? Anyway, you've helped me make a decision. I'll build another kit while I wait for yours Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
chris watton Posted February 4, 2014 #466 Posted February 4, 2014 Yes, plans and instructions, and sorting through the hundreds of construction pics. Designing and building the prototype is only half the job when developing a kit - as much time again, sometimes even more time, is spent trying to ensure that people can build the model by way of text, pictures and line drawings. Keith_W, Kevin, freewheelinguy and 6 others 9 Vanguard Models on Facebook
chris watton Posted February 9, 2014 #467 Posted February 9, 2014 OK, just completed final designs for the Roman warship (cut files and PE files), which includes 4 x Ballista's and 1 x Onager - all now emailed and sent off to be made for me. I can now continue with Victory. trippwj 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook
demonborger Posted February 9, 2014 #468 Posted February 9, 2014 Hmm I'm very intrigued at how you've designed the roman warship. From what i;ve seen many many modelers really struggle with the curvature of the bow and stern.Is there going to be any tricks in the instructions (obviously when the prototype is done) or design features that well aid the modeler there? Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
chris watton Posted February 9, 2014 #469 Posted February 9, 2014 Hmm I'm very intrigued at how you've designed the roman warship. From what i;ve seen many many modelers really struggle with the curvature of the bow and stern.Is there going to be any tricks in the instructions (obviously when the prototype is done) or design features that well aid the modeler there? Can't really say at this point, but I can say there's a lot of pre cut parts, eliminating any need to pull one's hair out... Vanguard Models on Facebook
Jaxboat Posted February 9, 2014 #470 Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Look forward to seeing your prototype. Glad to hear your back at the Victory. I have started selling off some of my stash to fund my buying the model. Best Jaxboat Edited February 9, 2014 by Jaxboat
chris watton Posted February 9, 2014 #471 Posted February 9, 2014 Cheers TBH, Most of my work has still been on Victory, with the Roman ship on evenings and weekends, to try and not slow anything down. Jaxboat 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook
amateur Posted February 10, 2014 #472 Posted February 10, 2014 I'm pretty sure you can show us some of the Roman ship (at least, I think I saw something between a Victory and a car that looks pretty much like a prototype Roman ship ) Jan
chris watton Posted February 10, 2014 #473 Posted February 10, 2014 I'm pretty sure you can show us some of the Roman ship (at least, I think I saw something between a Victory and a car that looks pretty much like a prototype Roman ship ) Jan Just for you - this is the pre-prototype: mtaylor, DavidG, Jaxboat and 3 others 6 Vanguard Models on Facebook
amateur Posted February 10, 2014 #474 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Yes, that's the one Thanks for posting. That will be something different compared to the 'usual' kits. How and where do you get your information with regard to dimenions, construction and materials? Jan Edited February 10, 2014 by amateur
chris watton Posted February 10, 2014 #475 Posted February 10, 2014 Yes, that's the one Thanks for posting. That will be something different compared to the 'usual' kits. How and where do you get your information with regard to dimenions, construction and materials? Jan Lots and lots of research, buying many (expensive) books on the subject and then essentially starting from scratch, based on the research I did. There are no line drawings for this type of vessel so I had to make up my own before even starting the designs. (based on dimensions/length to width ratios etc.). I did secure a full set of plans from the Trireme Trust, but to be honest, they were next to useless for the type of vessel I had in mind - a late Republic capital ship that perhaps Agrippa would recognise. Craigie65 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Craigie65 Posted February 10, 2014 #476 Posted February 10, 2014 Add some scale roman marines and you could have the bones of a wonderful diorama Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
RMC Posted February 10, 2014 #477 Posted February 10, 2014 Hi Chris I'm hoping that by the time I finish the Vanguard in about 18 months or so, Bellonna will be on the market. So add me to the list of potential sales. Bob (RMC)
demonborger Posted February 10, 2014 #478 Posted February 10, 2014 What is the length of it in mm? Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
chris watton Posted February 10, 2014 #479 Posted February 10, 2014 Just over a metre for the hull at 48th scale. Vanguard Models on Facebook
Jean-Pierre Posted February 10, 2014 #480 Posted February 10, 2014 Is this model going to replace the current Amati Greek Warship? See build log at http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3985-bireme-greek-warship-480-bc-auvergne-amati-scale-135/ Chris, your model not only looks much longer, but no doubt it will also be quite large with the row ranks. By the way, is the existing 1/1 model a good reference? JP
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