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Hi Grant, this is what I have: Hope these help Like your method of construction, will bear that in mind for Pegasus. M. -
I'll have a look thro' my photo collection Grant, and see if I have any shroud cleat photos whch may help to assist with scale adjustment for your Victory Cheers, M
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First class work Gary, love the finish, it looks like it could function as a stove. Well done. B.E.
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You’re welcome Brenticus and thank you for looking in and for your generous comments. The crewmen were ‘N’ scale Railway figures modified to suit. These are widely available from online sources, I recall I got most of mine off e-bay. The sheep were also ‘N’ scale from the Faller range. Re the sea base, I wanted a fairly placid effect simply as a vehicle in which to place the model, but really there is plenty of scope for artistry in sea making. Certainly in terms of a sailing ship there would not be the pronounced wake created by fast prop driven ships, and paintings are probably as good a guide as any. Here’s a link within MSW on the subject that may give you some ideas. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3952-dioramas-water-related-photos-hints-tips-and-videos/ Enjoy your Superbe when she arrives. Cheers, B.E.
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I've used that thread idea for the top chain link in the past Ray and it works just fine. If you then paint the thread matt black it fills in the lay of the line and improves the 'metal' look to the arrangemment. Cheers, B.E.
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A great mini project that Gary, the stove does look wonderful, I trust it won't be completely lost to view when fitted on the Upper Deck. B.E.
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Great job on those scuppers Bob, and a very wise decision to tackle them from both sides, simply too scary to try and drill thro' and hope the angle is correct. I'm all for faking it if it looks good. Is one of the scuppers relative to the pump dales, on Pegasus that one is slightly larger than the others. B.E.
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I would have to agree it makes no sense to cut the wale which was an important and integral strengthening of the ship. None of the Admiralty plans I have indicate such a feature, and in reality any decoration certainly on a sixth rate would have been painted on, and wouldn't have lasted very long in that position. B.E.
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Hi Grant, just to re-visit the question of Yard Tackles:- I came across this post by dvm on the Longridge Victory. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/968-hms-victory-model-by-longridge-science-museum/ You can see the yard tackles hooked into eye bolts in the channels on a couple of the photos. Cheers M.
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Impressive paint job Kriss, a great model in the making, look forward to more progress. B.E.
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Hi Mike, re the White pennant, it is the same as the Union version at the hoist - a cross of St George, the rest is plain white. About moving the Union Flag from the Jack, it was suspended from the Fore Topmast Stay, not to be confused with the Foremast Backstay, and only during the Battle. I think it would be unusual to display the Union flag in this way on a bare stick model, but obviously the choice is yours. B.E.
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That looks like a fish Davit you're fitting there Michael, is a cut out to be made on the Port side to allow for corresponding use? B.E.
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Nice job on the Great Cabin Vitus, a touch of luxuy for the Commander. Do you intend the partition and fit out the Bed Space and Coach also? Those carriages are a great improvement, I never thought the metal ones very convincing, and you will also be able to attach the necessary ironwork. B.E.
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That's bad news Grant, hope the fix holds. It's an ever present risk once the jib and tophamper are rigged. Trouble is you will always be nervous of that join throughout the rest of the build. Been there myself in the past but couldn't live with the tension and had to get the riggers in to re-do the t'gallant in the end. M.
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Hello Mike, I think I can help with the flags. Nelson was a Vice Admiral of the White, and certainly at Trafalgar Victory would have worn the White Ensign at the Gaff as you have indicated. The St George's Cross was the rank flag for a Vice Admiral of the White and was worn at the Fore topmast head. The long pennant was worn at the Main topmast head and was kept flying at all times a ship was in commission. Whether the Union Pennant as you show, or the White Pennant as applicable to Nelson, was worn is not certain, although personally I would go with a White Pennant. The Union Flag was usually only worn at the Jack staff when a ship was in harbour, and I would certainly have it at the Jack Staff on a bare stick model. At Trafalgar however, Nelson ordered all ships to suspend the jack from the Fore topmast stays, to aid identification. Hope this helps. B.E.
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What a beautiful clean deck Bob, great stuff B.E.
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Hi Grant, I agree - Longridge is suggesting that there are two outer tricing line blocks. This is what Marquardt has to say (18th Century Rigs and Rigging) The Outer Tricing line was spliced into the strop of the Upper (LongTackle) block, ran thro’ a lead block fastened to the yard one pendant length inside the yardarm, then thro’ another at Catharpins height lashed to the shrouds, to belay finally in the lower shrouds (shroud cleat) The tricing line was sometimes found running from the first lead block up to the top and made fast to a cleat. A thimble was spliced into the end of the Inner tricing line, and this was slipped over the hook on the lower tackle block. The hauling part passed thro’ a lead block beside that for the outer tricing line in the shrouds, and belayed like the outer tricing line to a cleat in the lower shrouds. As far as Victory is concerned Longridge show the tricing lines belayed around the first two shrouds forward on the Fore and Main Masts. It makes sense to me that such light lines would reasonably be belayed to shroud cleats on the Lower Shrouds, and from a modelling point of view this presents a neat solution, if the tricing lines are to be rigged. Hope this helps, B.E.
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She looks wonderful Jason, and those Mast tops are excellent, nice to see the overall shots of her. B.E.
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Looking forward to it Robert, Happy New Year. B.E.
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What a little beauty Ron, I envy you, I'm still dithering about trying to decide about the Pinnace for Pegasus. Best wishes for 2014. B.E.
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Nice shot of the deck guns Ray, and of you with the QM2 in the background. As a young boy I remember seeing the original pass the IoW on its way to Southampton, impressive, never forgotton that view. Best wishes for 2014. B.E.
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Nice progress Gary, the deck option looks good, and I love the pump photos, a great little diorama on their own. If I may comment on the frapping of gun tackles, it is less likely that the gun deck heavy guns would be run out and frapped, as the ports would be usually closed unless the guns were being prepared for action, where faking down of the side tackles would probably be the practical arrangement. But whose to say that in a harbour situation with the ports open to allow airing, the guns wouldn't sometimes be secured by frapping. The situation would be different with the lighter guns in open non lidded ports John Harland in his book Seamanship in the age of Sail includes a chapter on securing the guns. He makes the point that the Upper deck guns were ordinarily secured in the ‘run out’ position and shows the side tackles frapped. This is the arrangement I adopted on my Pegasus build. B.E.
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