garyshipwright

Thanks druxey. It is a nice one and really adds so much to the saw. 

Well I have finally pulled the plug and decided to start a build log on building the Winchelsea while also working on my 74. Why some will ask, some  times it's nice when you don't have to make all the parts and piece's, but she still have a lot of parts and pieces to make along with the ones that Chuck makes for her. Some call her a kit but I would say 50 50, and  to me it still takes as much skill and understanding to build her as well as a 74.  May take a little time to get her up and running but am working on that.  I can't seem to find the answer to how long , wide and thick does the build board need to be? I came across that the hull length which is 38 inches so a  length of 42 to 46 inches would be just about right. Tomorrow I plan on going to have the plan's blown up to a 100 percent which should help me figure out the size of the build board along with other question I have, and then I can start cutting and make the bulkheads along with the her Bulkhead former.  Glad to be aboard. Gary

Well its been Twenty years since I purchase my Byrnes table saw. Brought one of his earlier one, when he first came out with them. Been happy with it every since. Felt like a kid waiting on Santa to bring my toy and put it under the tree. Of course it never did make it under the tree. 🤪 I did get a email from Jim saying that he was about ready to start mailing them out and not long after that the real boss sent me one saying it might be a couple of weeks out, and she was right.  I got a email from Donna, who is a outstanding Lady, letting me know that it was going to be a few week's longer before Jim  finally got them ready to be shipped out. Well lets say the next couple of week's were a lot like setting on pin's and needle's , and finally a big box arrived at the house.  It is a heck of a machine and has been the best investment in to the hobby.  Any way I saw Jim's new table top back in 2017, believe that when I noticed it, but wasn't till now July 2022, that I took my saw table top off and sent it back to Jim to be replaced with the bigger table top and it's outstanding, well worth the money and will get many years of use. Wish I had done this back in 2017 but some times a couple of months turns in to year's.  Its a outstanding  table top and not sure what else I can say and if you have the saw you know what and how good that machine really is. In fact all their machines are great. It really brings a lot more to the table and with the extra length one can put the sliding table on with out having to remove the fence, cut what you need, remove the sliding table  and go back to using you fence.  Its very easy to remove and replace the fence when using the sliding table before, but even better when you don't have to. Guess you can call me just a little on the lazy side. Donna was telling me about what they did to improve the table top  finish's which I have found to look nice but item's seem to slide easier on it.  Donna  said I was going to love the new top and she was 100 percent right. Of course didn't have the heart to tell her that I have been in love with that saw since I got it, hum maybe I did.🙄   If you thinking about replacing the table top then do it and if you can afford the saw get the one that has the 18 x 10 table top. Guarantee you will be a very very happy camper I am that's for sure. Another thing about Jim and Donna, great  great customer care and other then making outstanding machine, they really know how to pack them for shipping.  Gary

Looks outstanding Reg. Hope to be building one in the near future. Gary

Ok guys with a bigger scrap box which I have and it's over flowing what is one to do with all the small little pieces of wood???  O I know send it to you  guys and let you figure that one out. You guys are talking about who has the biggest one right? 🤪

Mark She is outstanding good sir and like you am  slow, slow , slow. After looking at her, she is one very gorgeous Lady and her fine lines are really showing through in the first photo. . Gary

Alan , Rif put out 4 books of the British Warships in the in the age of sail, one through 1603-1714, 1714-1792, 1793-1817.1817-1863, all of them have a ton of info on the British warship. I do believe that  he also join up with David Lyon to put out one on the Stream ships.  I went looking for his other books and talk about being very expensive, his 1603- 1714 would cost you $5899.97. Of course you could get one a lot cheaper  on Amazon for 734.99. 😭They sure are not getting any cheaper that's for sure. Gary

Thanks Guys, it keeps me very happy. It does seem that at the moment am building another fore capstan for the main deck. I really didn't like the color of the old one and the new one should be a lot better looking.  Now where did I put all those pieces????? Thanks again guy's. Gary

3 hours ago, AON said:

The documents mentioned in my above posting are ADM 52/2752, ADM 52/2779 and ADM 52/3359.

I never thought there was anything but the 74 guns.  I never searched further once I found she wasn't on the list of ships issued carronades.

Then I discovered the swivel guns.

Now there are the carronades.

So short answer is no I hadn't but now I shall.

How did you know they mentioned the guns before got your hands on copies?  were they posted on PRO to read?

The info is in the History of English Sea ordnance by Caruana. On page 237 he gives the PRO WO 51-291 as his reference. He does state that Alfred had a complete set of Carronades as well, including  eighteen 9 pound carronades. He goes on to say Rare though it was, there was a 9-pdr carronade, but it was presumably a civilian piece never officially adopted by the Navy. I always look in the back of the book's to see what they use as a reference and try to get that reference. Some times  it work's  out, other times its out of range as far as the cost goes.    

Alan just a question for you. When I was doing  more research on Alfred, which of course I have not ,stop I was searching the Public Record Office, better know as PRO, lead me to WO51/291/882H which lead me to info on what guns Alfred carried and ADM 51/34 1056 44 which was her log books  I believe, around the 1780's. This is when I was looking for info on the lathorn in the magazine.  I went through your build and couldn't find that you may of used these, hope they are of some help.  Gary

Looking outstanding Amalio. You are a lot further ahead and am still trying to get the upper deck part's made. Maybe one day I be where your at on Montanes.  I just love the clean look of her and the shine of the wood. Gary

Matiz forgive me good sir I think I have been asleep and missed a lot of you outstanding build. Well good sir, I will try and make up for that in the future and your work is astounding. Thank you for sharing your build of her. Gary

Hi Siggi. She really look's outstanding and always a eye opener when ever you post new photo's. Your and other's build's show's me that I still have a log way to go. Gary

Your very welcome  Amalio. 

Looking good Amalio. Are you planning on installing any gun's on the upper deck. Your's are top notch and it's like looking at a real cannon? Looking forward to your next update. Gary

They have got a little on the expensive side havn't they. Druxey do you have Vol 1 also?  It is a nice set and a good addition for one's  library.

Welcome to MSW Rob. As some one said , a lot of us have plastic model's under our belts and also like to build Ship models. Find my self switching from plastic model's to wooden ships and love working on both. Again welcome to the club and look forward to seeing you log on DOK. Gary

Looking good Siggi. I always enjoy looking and following your build. Really helps in my own building. Gary

Thanks Albert and Hubac.  The patination is a finish that Ed came up with when he was building the Naiad, which is a beeswax dissolved in turpentine to a dilute solution along with 17 years of time. Gary 

You know Allan, I wonder if we can talk the person, who's name shall not be mention in to sending some of us mere mortals a few shot's of his work shop ??  I wouldn't mind seeing his library either.

Thanks Druxey and Oliver. Well who know's, maybe if I practice a bit more I just may get good at it, taking pictures that is. The table is a blessing. It has height adjustment and tilt now and its a back saver. Wish I had done this years ago and really getting lot's of use out of it .  Really make's working on her a lot more enjoyable. Again thanks guy's. 

Thanks Dan and your very welcome. Hopefully with all the good ideal's from the member's ,this will help you now and in the future along with getting a chance to see other's table and shop's and plant ideal's for you to enjoy building.  Belive it or not my first work bench was two 4x4 and a couple of  pieces of plywood that made up the top and a shelf below it.  Enjoy the site good sir. .

Thought I would add some close up photo's of Montague.  I was on the NRG site and came across the article by Kurt on taking photo's of ones work and figure I needed to practice  a bit. Guess I have to find a little space for a photo booth when  taking good photo's of my ship.  Well guys one day maybe I get the hang of taking good photo's, hope you enjoy the close up. Gary

Hi Dan welcome to the club. As others have said it depend's on the room you have. Am lucky to have a two car garage and a extension I added on to make more room for my stuff. As far as work benches and desk looking at other people shops help you in figuring that out about what you want. Am always asking some one for photo's of their shop, some times just to see their shop which also helps me use their ideals for things in it must like work benches. I have never had any one say know and we all like showing were we spend are time working on our hobby's.  When I built my hobby desk I used Woodsmith plan of their small scale Hobby Bench which is on the cover. It reminded me of a jeweler workbench, and I have alway's wanted one. Nice thing about building your own is what you can add and the detail you put in to it.  I also have a 8 foot wood worker bench. My 74 has its on workbench and is much to big to build it on the hobby bench. Her work bench is height adjustable and I just added a tilting to it that allows me to tilt it one way or the other. Really is nice for  working inside the hull.  The Woodsmith  issue is Vol 37, No 219 Dated June/July2015.  Forgive for the mess. Gary

She really does have beautiful lines Oliver. Keep up the outstanding work, look forward to you next update. Gary