Gregory

1 hour ago, Srodbro said:

Just a quick follow up and I’ll recede into the background:

 

The original main yard that Aubrey was not satisfied with was described thus:

Jack went to the rail and looked sharply at the sea running by, the long curve as it rose after the hollow under the lee-bow: he grunted and returned to his staring at the mainyard, a piece of wood rather more than thirty feet long and tapering from some seven inches in the slings, the middle part, to three at the yard-arms, the extremities.

What was the reason given for his dissatisfaction?

20 hours ago, Rgpracer said:

I don't have a clue how to figure scale or what manufacturer it is.

For future reference, if you know the measurements for the full size ship, you can divide that by the same dimension of the model and get an approximation..

Or Divide the full size dimension by the scale and see what you get.

A length I see for Victory is 186 feet on the gun deck..  Divide by 98 and you get 1.897  feet or about 22.7 inches.

So if your victory model is close to 23 inches on the gun deck, I would consider it close to 1:98..

Close enough that it is unlikely to be another common scale, such as 1:72 or 

19 hours ago, Charter33 said:

I'd start by soaking the  strip for about 5 minutes and see how that goes.

The idea is to apply a heat source to the wet plank.

Water is a better transferrer of heat than air. 

Not knowing how your steamer works, a small iron is probably better..

I believe a couple of our members use this or something similar

.Steamfast SF-717 Mini Steam Iron

Take a look here:

Are you referring to:

https://modelshipworld.com/forum/77-medway-long-boat-1742-public-group-project/

Your question appears to refer to more than one model..

2mm Sounds a bit thick for the amount of bend in that area.

You might try thinning it down to at most 1.5 mm.  Try soaking the strip before bending it in place, then let it dry before gluing..

Also note that it may tend to split more depending on the direction of the bend.  Start your bend, and if it looks like it wants to split, try bending in the other direction.

Has anyone referred you to Petersson's Rigging Period Fore and Aft Craft?

One has to keep in mind that the author simply documented what he observed on a contemporary model.

While the information appears to be accurate in many respects, some problems have been pointed out, here and there.

Here are his diagrams of the the throat and peak halyard rigging for " .. a typical American schooner."

Along with all the other information you have been provided, this should be of some help..

Yes, they are Bob Smith..

FWIW, whenever I get an upload error, I change the format of the picture, say from .JPG to .PNG and it usually works..

10 hours ago, FrankWouts said:

...but also be considered should be that sometimes a huge amount of muscle force was used to lower or raise the guns to aim...so little more robust would be my taste as well.

I don't think the quoin would have been used to raise and lower the gun, rather it was moved into position after the fact..

I would go with what looks good..

You did a great job with what the kit provided.. 

What is the actual size of those plates?

I see coppering as a personal preference as to how you want the model to appear..

How many people outside of our community are going to look at a coppered model and say " Oh, those copper  plates are too thick and out of scale.. " ?

I wasn't suggesting the overlap was not used, in fact, it would seem to be essential, similar to the principals in laying shingles..

I was just questioning the usefulness/ appearance or lack thereof, when modeling..

How relevant is the thickness if you don't overlap?

The overlap is not apparent in the images of the Cutty Sark and Constitution presented earlier..

Plus, there are various thicknesses available.   I saw one that was .025mm.

It doesn't appear to be listed in the specs, but if you ask, you will get a good answer from the seller/manufacturer..

Copper foil tape is available in 1/4 - 1.5 inch diameters.

Those who are so inclined, can adjust the size..

On 12/25/2021 at 11:03 AM, Tommy Vercetti said:

17th century frigates.

Historic Ship Model  by Mondfeld has a lot of general information ..  Can be a good place to start.

Here is an example ..  Topmasts and topgallants were for the most part made from single timbers and not built up like lower masts..

You might find this to be of some help:

21 minutes ago, Philemon1948 said:

And yet, a thorough analysis of both books has yet to be published. How is that possible?

No money in it..

What about this..  A variation of your original idea..

Just a wood template that fits snugly in the port with a pointed awl that rests in a groove to mark your strip..

Of course you will be  fine tuning the template to position the barrels where you want them..

Constitution?

Here is what Lees says about  jib boom horses:

Sounds like what I had come to understand..  Note that there is no mention of stirrups for these foot ropes.

Now, what about this..

Here are the illustrations for the bowsprit foot ropes.

I'm having trouble understanding these..  Did they not stand on them, but just hold them while standing on the bowsprit.

How did they do any work while holding on?

P.S.

I had a few of these fly across the room before i refined the process.   My spindle is a toothpick that I forced the truck onto until it was tight,

but not so tight that it  could not turn if the torque got too high.

  With hindsight, a little nut on the end of the toothpick would have kept the truck from going frisbee on me..

Rusty, I know you are a skilled craftsman, and possibly considered this, but I had great results cleaning my trucks on a low speed rotary tool..

Too late for you, but might help someone else..

1 hour ago, Gregory said:

It is highly unlikely that Core used the actual plans of a ship of that name..

Looks like I stand to be corrected.. 

20 minutes ago, JimmyK said:

My major problem with this kit is actually what am I building. Is it really the Flying Fish?

There were probably any number of ships/boats named " Flying Fish .. 

It is highly unlikely that Core used the actual plans of a ship of that name..

Don't let that stop you from enjoying the experience..