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Thanks Keith, Robin, Tom and KirbysLunchBox for your comments and everyone else for the likes.

 

I think you may have a good point KirbysLunchBox, if you did have to replace a spoke the extra overhead would be useful.

Glenn

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Great progress since I last checked in Glenn. It just occurred to me that this is basically a three dimensional history text, following the adage "that a picture is worth a thousand words" There must be a great deal of satisfaction in piecing together a story about the detail of vessel from a few remains.

 

Michael 

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

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Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

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Posted

Thanks steamschooner and Michael

 

Michael,  It's good to hear from you again.  I hope you had a great time while you were away.  I've missed your posts and look forward to seeing you back at it!

 

 

I spent all of this last week finishing up the bunks and interior planking.  I still need to add the rails to the bunks and my wife has volunteered to make all the mattresses.  I've started on the windows -- just the interior side of the frames.  I'll add the mica and outer half later after the walls are painted.  This makes it easier to paint the exterior frame before installing it.

 

 

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Close up of three completed window.  I really like the effect of the mica - Thanks druxey for suggesting it.

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Glenn

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Glad you like mica. It takes a little getting used to; peeling it and cutting it without chipping along the edges. Lovely progress again, Glenn.

 

I had another thought about the paddle box covers. The height and diameter of the cover gives the impression of a much larger wheel beneath, therefore implying greater motive power. Think of 'blisters' on hoods of muscle cars!

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Hello druxey,

 

I've used it before to make a replica of a seventeenth century sundial but, I never thought of the ship model connection. I have to say, cutting the rectangular windows from the mica was a lot easier than cutting the round piece for the sundial.

 

 

Interesting idea about the paddlebox. My paddlewheels are bigger than yours!

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Glenn

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Glenn, absolutely magnificent workmanship. I love the interior shutters around the windows. Nice detail. I am in awe!

Posted

The location of the bunks looks strange.  I'm used to them being placed athwart ship and a door to the deck as well as to the inner common room.  Was this arrangement common, and when did it change?

 

Bob

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Posted

I have been on the road for a few weeks with limited internet access; but what a great update to comer back to Glenn.  She is looking great and that 'mica' sure sets the windows off.  Love the detail for the bunks, furniture etc.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Posted

Thanks Jack, Bob, Patrick, Frank and Pat for your comments and everyone for the likes.

 

Bob, sorry that I didn't get back to your question more quickly, I wanted to check Kevin's notes on the subject. For his deck arrangement, he mentions descriptions of three contemporary vessels, Cavalier (1832), Water Witch (1832), and Swiss Boy (1836). He also mentions a watercolor of the Ladies' Cabin on the steamer Chalevoix (1838). It seems that at least for the 1830's, this arrangement was in use but it may have changed as the vessels got larger in the 1840s onward. Is it possible that with a wider beam, more cabins could be added with bunks athwart ship? Just my guess though.

Glenn

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At the time I asked the question I had not considered the beam of the boat.  But if you have a great room in the center with a cabin on each side and then a walkway outside of that the boat would have to have at least a 28 feet wide beam and probably more like 32 feet minimum.  What is the width of the Heroine? I find the length at 140 Feet but I have not found a measurement of the hull width.

 

Bob

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Posted

Heroine's beam was twenty feet and about 36 feet across the main deck. If you consider that the you lose about a foot to the double planked walls of the deckhouse, you only have about 19 feet to work with. It does make sense to run the bunks longitudinally to make room for a great room. I sometimes forget how small this vessel is compared to the later steamers.

Glenn

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Thanks Glenn.  Yes we forget that some of these boats were small.

 

Bob

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

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  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Hello everyone,

 

Sorry that I've been away.  Progress has slowed with the first model while I try to get caught up on the second.  I didn't want to bore everyone with the replay.  Fortunately, most of the parts are already machined for the first model and only need to be assembled.  The process is going fairly quickly.  I was able to add a few details such as doors and bunk rails to the first model and will start on the roof trusses next week.

 

 

Second model going together.

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Bunk rails in.  My wife has started on the mattresses.  They are a piece of fabric stretched around a piece of foam board with the paper faces removed.  Then eight stitches to represent buttons.

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I decided to mill the doors instead of building them from individual pieces.

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Not happy with the paint job.  I should have sanded after the first coat.

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Top painted.  Sorry for the poor photo quality.

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Glenn

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Nice update, missed the weekend posts ... sanding between paint coats ... that would have been hard in those small recesses, doable, but hard. You still can though ...

 

I think I wouldn't mind seeing the second grow like the first one. Such wonderful details ...

Carl

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It's like deja vu...all over again. Tell you wife great work on those mattresses, just the right amount of grime.

 

That must be a very small milling bit because those inside corners look almost square.

 

Our members were going through withdrawal from their lack of weekly W.R.S.H. fix! Thans for the update.

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Posted

Thanks everybody,

 

I've missed the opportunity for to check in for the last couple of weeks but my weekends have been tied up with a couple of family events. It's nice to finally have a free weekend.

 

Thanks Patrick, Carl, Greg, Frank, druxey, and Robin for your comments. I might do things a little differently the second time around and post the results. Greg, my wife says thanks for the comment on the mattresses and the end mill is 1/32 inch. I have some 1/3 mm mills that I've been hoping to put to use but haven't yet found any details that require a mill that small.

Glenn

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Nice to see the update Glenn, I was missing my weekly fix.  Beautiful work as usual.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Posted

beautiful work Glenn,

 

Nils

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Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

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Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

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-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

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