WackoWolf Posted September 12, 2013 Share #61 Posted September 12, 2013 Good question since Jim is the only one I have heard of having one. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted September 12, 2013 Share #62 Posted September 12, 2013 Well I guess I am being unfair. I set you up so I could tell another story about Jim & Donna's customer service. A few years ago when my Jim Table Saw was new. I was bragging to a family member about what a wonderful tools it was. So for Xmas that year I received a feather board from that family member. But they had ordered it from MicroMark. It was for the Proxxon Saw. I sent Jim a note explaining my situation. He replied that if I would send the feather board to him and pay shipping both ways he would adapt it to the Model Machines Saw. So I have a one of a kind Feather Board. Thanks Jim! PS The family member who gave it as a gift is very proud to see me use it and has no idea these details. WackoWolf and lister 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted September 12, 2013 Share #63 Posted September 12, 2013 I always have a few ideas on the drawing board, some closer to actual metal cutting than others. Is there anything in particular you guys would like to see in the near future? No lathes or mills please. Jim Byrnes Model Machines Jim why don't you post some of your ideas from the drawing board here, as a survey and get votes for the most wanted....this may help stir up some new ideas and give you a better idea of what the market wants (just an idea) PS...a very happy customer of the Table Saw, Thickness Sander and Drawplate Quote Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbyr Posted September 12, 2013 Share #64 Posted September 12, 2013 Pete Manual Seizing machine 4" variable speed, 0-2000 rpm, reversible detail disc sander Oscillating spindle sander Jim AntonyUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted September 12, 2013 Share #65 Posted September 12, 2013 Oscillating spindle sander! jml1083, Rustyj and gjdale 3 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad918 Posted September 12, 2013 Share #66 Posted September 12, 2013 two votes for O.S.S. Just bought the Grizzly benchtop O.S.S. but wouldn't miss it... Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted September 12, 2013 Share #67 Posted September 12, 2013 How about a Scroll Saw or a Band Saw? Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbyr Posted September 12, 2013 Share #68 Posted September 12, 2013 There are quite a few good scroll and band saws out there that are pretty good. I couldn't make one cheaper, maybe better but not cheaper. Maybe not even better. Would the OSS table have to tilt? Jim AntonyUK and WackoWolf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted September 12, 2013 Share #69 Posted September 12, 2013 Oscillating spindle sander with the option for a tilt table Paddy, fnkershner and jml1083 3 Quote Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted September 13, 2013 Share #70 Posted September 13, 2013 Oscillating spindle sander with the option for a tilt table Hear, hear. Quote 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted September 13, 2013 Share #71 Posted September 13, 2013 I vote for the OSS with option of tilt. I also vote for the manual seizing machine. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted September 13, 2013 Share #72 Posted September 13, 2013 Jim, We all know anything you make would be better without a doubt. The band saw would be a big improvement over what is on the market for ship builders, something to think about. The ones out there all have different problems. If you go on Amazon and look at the reviews you will understand what I am talking about. You are right about the scroll saw there are a bunch that are top notch, but Band Saw there isn't really any for us. Just my option. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jml1083 Posted September 13, 2013 Share #73 Posted September 13, 2013 Jim, I'm going to cast another vote for the Oscillating spindle sander with tilting table. I have a Rigid brand which is serviceable but it is a monster size wise. For me the perfect unit would be small in size, have a motor that does not bog down in routine model making activities (not talking about sanding 2" rock maple), has a removable pivot pin in the table surface, use off the shelf sanding drums and possibly be variable speed. Brian the extraordinaire and Rustyj 2 Quote Jim L What we ever hope to do with ease, we must learn first to do with diligence. - Samuel Johnson On the Building Ways: Launched: Contracts Signed: Member: The Nautical Research Guild The US Naval Institute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted September 13, 2013 Share #74 Posted September 13, 2013 Hi Jim B, I have the same as Jim L and agree100% I also would buy your's, when you finish making it, tomorrow! Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted September 13, 2013 Share #75 Posted September 13, 2013 I vote for the OSS with tilt as well, I would certainly buy one as soon as it came available. ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad918 Posted September 14, 2013 Share #76 Posted September 14, 2013 See Jim, looks like you already sold at least 10 O.S.S's and you haven't even built one yet, now thats a good reputation to have! Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted September 14, 2013 Share #77 Posted September 14, 2013 Problem is I believe Jim needs to sell something like 400 units to make it profitable. But if we each bought ten each... Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share #78 Posted September 14, 2013 Jim, in addition to the OSSs, I know there will be many who'd buy a serving machine. Features like being able to lock in position both the line being served and the serving line feed would be nice--this would keep tension on both lines while freeing one's hands to tie off, glue, cut or etc. a finished line that's been served. Having hook attachments for seizing blocks would be great. A tensioned feed system for the serving line would be another nice feature (would work well with a locking setup). Having one end be moveable would be great, too; then one could move it toward the other end for seizing blocks or etc. Many machines require wrapping the running end of the line being served around crank spindles or etc.--a spool to hold and secure the running line would likely be a nicer alternative and keep line out of gears and etc. OK I'll shut up... Jay Quote Current Build: Ariel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlevine Posted September 15, 2013 Share #79 Posted September 15, 2013 My preference would be for a serving machine. The reason for this is that I already own an OSS and even though it is designed for macro-carpentry I would be hard-pressed justifying a replacement. I guess that's the same reason I still use an ancient Dremel table saw with an Accurizer! flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted September 15, 2013 Share #80 Posted September 15, 2013 Count me in for an OSS (with tilt option). I already own the table saw, disc sander and draw plate, and will shortly be ordering a thickness sander. The rope walk is also on my "to-buy" list. I'd order an OSS from Jim the moment it was available (so you'd better be making it with a 240v motor option! ) Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister Posted September 16, 2013 Share #81 Posted September 16, 2013 Morning Folks Jim , count me in i will take a Oss as soon as you have iit available tiilt table preferred . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted September 17, 2013 Share #82 Posted September 17, 2013 OK, I have a basic question from one still learning. What would you use an OSS for in ship modeling? Thanks Richard T. Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted September 18, 2013 Share #83 Posted September 18, 2013 Brian, I guess I was not sure how much the "oscillating" helps. I have a dremel shaper table, with a sanding attachment on the dremel, and it is helpful to keep both hands on the work. But, being Dremel, it is kind of small and is not the easiest to work with. I was considering something larger and more stable, but had not thought of the oscillating function. It just did not occur to me. Richard T. Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yambo Posted September 20, 2013 Share #84 Posted September 20, 2013 That's what a saw is for Brian, to remove large amounts of material. Then finish off with a sander of some sort. Quote If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted September 20, 2013 Share #85 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) It is a lot different when you use a "Spindle Sander". The up and down motion and sanding at the same time takes off a heck of a lot of wood and fast. Just my option. I bought mine at "Harborfrieght" which is a Chinese version but it does the job. But like Brian said it is a toy. Edited September 20, 2013 by WackoWolf Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad918 Posted September 20, 2013 Share #86 Posted September 20, 2013 Also to add to the benefits of the OSS; in most cases the spindle is normal to the table therfore giving you a perpendicular "cut" on your workpiece which is harder to acheive with a dremel tool, at least in my opinion. If you add a tilt option to the table you can also achieve fairly consistent angles. The "up and down" motion of the spindle also adds a second degree of cutting direction, where the dremel just rotates about its own axis, the OSS not only "cuts" about its axis, it also "cuts" the length of its stroke, i think the biggest advantage to this added motion is the sanding drum will not get as hot and burn the workpiece as if you (or at least i) see with the dremel. Obviously both machines have there place, personally i couldnt live without the dremel, but it sure is nice to clean up frames with an OSS and have the edges square and sharp. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted September 20, 2013 Share #87 Posted September 20, 2013 So, if I understand correctly, the purpose of the oscillating motion is increase the speed of wood removal? If that's the case, I would probably would vote for a motorized rope walk. The next tool that I am considering is the table saw. I am considering trying my hand at scratch building after I gain a little more experience, and given the cost of planking, etc. Richard T. Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted September 23, 2013 Share #88 Posted September 23, 2013 So Jim....have you made up your mind on what is next out of your shop....OSS....OSS......OSS Quote Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted November 9, 2013 Share #89 Posted November 9, 2013 Hi Jim. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. And again thank you for everything. My Brynes saw is producing excellent quality timber and I hope you have a Quality birthday. Regards Antony. tasmanian 1 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted November 9, 2013 Share #90 Posted November 9, 2013 Happy Birthday Jim! Thanks for everything you do! Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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